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Some times they literally are. Like the ban on certain food and then the command later to eat that food.

Some or many Christians put limits on themselves and God. We are created in his or their image. We are to be perfect like Christ or the Father in heaven. To me this means we are the same type of creature as God and that Jesus still has his resurrected body like we all will have. What we are resurrected to depends a great deal on us combined with Christs power to forgive on condition of repentance. In other words we can become like him an dbe perfect. Perfection is attainable, but I don't believe in an alter call and that is it. I don't believe in just works either. I believe in faith and works which means most Christians label me as believing in works alone. That disturbs me about those folks. One must put effort into discipline and change and repentance, something I here little of anymore. Just my thoughts from what Y'all are saying the last 3 posts or so.

But Tony there seem to be many who did not have that family value and came from a polygamous family like my wife did. She had 2 grandfathers and 3 grandmothers. Also her family did not teach what most of us were taught, if not direct then by our mostly Christian based society. This is one of the eye openers for some of us. Wife's Mom even wanted more grandchildren from one of the daughters who has a defective husband, so she encouraged an affair and let the husband get over it. That man has a gf anyway and wife's sister is making no move to leave him and still gives her paycheck to hubby to take care of finances at home. Go figure. (She has made no move to go have an affair either!) Mom is now going to a Christian church or study group, my wife tells me, and is strong in it. PS: Let me add that my wife was kind of slow telling me some of the things about her family in fear I would not like them and curse them. I have told her that where there is no law given then one cannot judge so easily. I certainly won't condemn them for not knowing what I know. Patiance and time and letting them learn and decide to follow or not, you know?

Hey, I just stumbled across this again and got curious. I am in no way looking for multiple wives. I am a bit more curious about the law side of it rather than the scripture part at this moment. Ehhh, should have let the thread alone....... sorry It's a subject that still fascinates me in that it occurred frequently in Bible scriptures, US laws were enacted primarily to curb Mormonism and the subject enlists a lot of passion (no pun intended). With what little controversy we're left with here at the Candle, might as well dredge this up and kick it around again. I think a lot of our protestant Christian beliefs or traditions come from Saint Augustine, whom I don't care for in every sense, but I found his writing on this a bit surprising. Also found some reference that Martin Luther could not denounce polygamy either. I have to kind of agree with A Mafan here, but apparently, and if true, God did provide a way for having a lot of children made. If people were doing all they should in obeying commandments and did not do it for lust I can see it working. Certainly a woman may care for her best friend or sister or a widow and ask her husband... It happened that way at times. I don't care for the sects today who practice this outside of both laws. If I can pull this from Wikipedia and I read it in other places to try to confirm: Saint Augustine saw a conflict with Old Testament polygamy. He writes in The Good of Marriage (chapter 15) that, although it "was lawful among the ancient fathers: whether it be lawful now also, I would not hastily pronounce. For there is not now necessity of begetting children, as there then was, when, even when wives bear children, it was allowed, in order to a more numerous posterity, to marry other wives in addition, which now is certainly not lawful." He refrained from judging the patriarchs, but did not deduce from their practice the ongoing acceptability of polygamy. In chapter 7, he wrote, "Now indeed in our time, and in keeping with Roman custom, it is no longer allowed to take another wife, so as to have more than one wife living." And I've seen the opposite way of thinking from a Chinese woman, who, I guess, has simply resigned herself that men will be men and as long as her husband doesn't leave or divorce her she is accepting of his infidelity and has told him. Glad he is following you Amber. My wife's father is the son of the 2nd wife or gf, depending on how you want to call it. Some people in China never even go register their marriage because of what they think of the govt. so I hear. Several of us have had our wives suggest a gf, or in my case say she would get upset but then get over it. what is HORRIBLE to my wife is spending money I don't have. Having everything paid for and money for emergency in the bank is crucial to existence and the minimum a man MUST provide for his family. Of course most don't like it if this husband gets a gf but then it is so common. I have had to get my wife going to church to help her see a group of people who don't follow that way. I also met a girl in china on line 3+ years ago who had a brother who went to BYU. He told her about those people living a much different way of being faithful to each other, compared to what she knew. So she was looking for a man like that or in that religion. I never heard form her again. I guess I didn't qualify or something

Hey, I just stumbled across this again and got curious. I am in no way looking for multiple wives. I am a bit more curious about the law side of it rather than the scripture part at this moment. Ehhh, should have let the thread alone....... sorry

Dennis and all I guess this thread is dead and I won't list scripture references I found. There is even some interesting web sites out there I was unaware of that will give scripture references and interpretations both ways. One just needs to search. Like I posted before it can depend on which bible you use and the wording there and splitting hairs on words in a few cases. Overall I don't see it condemned but it seems to depend on the situation at the time. Some men could handle it and some, like Solomon, could not. When a foreign girl, who worshiped the wrong God, was married it influenced worship of the wrong God which broke a commandment and caused a lot of trouble. So if one is not strict about obedience they can get in a lot of trouble whether your married to one wife or many. Our history of making the monogamous law is hard to find, but I am curious why and how it happened so I will dig.....later or I may PM you. I know you did not want to get into the Chinese part of things here, so I just won't go there.

I think for the west coast it's easier to refer to the Yellow Pages. Well I thought I might just list whole commuinities in those areas. I need to do the same about Houston. But now Little Rock, AR......We have found only 3 stores so far. Word of mouth only gave us 2. What would be nice in large Asian communities like that is to give a review and list where you shop and why.

It also tells us that we don't have to suffer our enemies harm. Your allowed to fight back to protect yourself and interests.

OK I finally got back over here to edit. I have a lot of polishing to do, but that will be over time. Hey give us your thoughts on where you shop. Good deals? fresh food? Or all bad?

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Good for you, after all she is your wife. Deal with it the best way you know. Hey don't do anything foolish and get yourself arrested. Some things just can't be changed, on the other hand some can, but getting yourself in a bad situation won't help you help yourself, her, or if it ends the one you may meet later. All of us have been around in life for awhile. If we feel something we are probably right. I don't envy your situation but glad your going to face it. My prayers are with you that you judge correctly in what to do for yourself.

I love it, just love it

I am surprised. This is a humbling time. I pray you have success for your family.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HOOOOOOOOOOOOO OH Yeah: Be sure and dust the top of the bar in the closet for hanging cloths.

My self and others were banned by family from watching it anymore. Gov pass the biscutts Oh Daniel was a Texas Gov. Canton, MS or what ever the name of the town where the newish Nissan truck plant is was used some. The best acting of one of those guys from MS or TX during that era, I think, was the guy talking to the blind record man about getting them on contract. I've seen this a lot. Went to MS every summer as a kid. My favorite scene was the police car hitting the cow. But again a woman was the catalist for the whole dang thing.

Do or not do. So if one is lazy and does nothing??? 1: No love at all because no action even to self. 2: feeling love of ones laziness.

She bought a new pair as the Micky Mouse ones she had broke. But now I must return them for some reason. I wear socks or bare feet. She can keep those rubber habits. How about after the shower you should get out of the front of the shower and enter in the rear. The rear now is dirty and not for clean feet. (yes of course dear)

Hi Jany, Thanks for this wonderful news. Thank you for your help to others. Someone once told me that I cannot repay him. That all I can do is help the next person and they help the next. Also I have a sister in law working for a wind powered electric company in Lioning province in China. Actually I guess most of my wife's family works for various electric power companies. This is encouraging as my wife wouldlove to get her sister over here. Who knows maybe wife will look into starting something. Congradulations on this and your marriage.

Baby Back Ribs at Applebees, followed by the half price deal on Nachos Nuevos after 9PM. A salad at Jason's deli. I get what I want. Her salad is so enormous (a mountain on a plate) from one visit to the bar that we completely fill a take home container after she is full, which is not the jest of the deal............what can I say? ONLY seafood Chinese buffets. (They make no money on her visits) Golden Coral on Friday evening. (again the BBQ ribs) (Ryan's is OUT)

Dennis I am caught without my bible on the road. I would look up a few tings for you. Lets don't forget the house of Israel is polygamist too. You have a whole string of profits with more than one wife. Leviticus does tell us who's nakedness we may not uncover. This helped me out once. You can marry a cousin for instance, based on that. I get home I will try to do some looking. By the way the Mormons believed the first wife must provide, as part of the deal, and part of their modern scripture, however The Book of Mormon itself states a man is to have but one wife and carries on about it quite a bit with one exception and that is if God commands his people otherwise they are to do what he says, ie have one wife. Another place it has to do with raising up righteous seed unto him if they practice it, which made sense at the time when they were exterminated from the USA. I don't recall them practicing this to begin with against any law of th eland and trying to be above the law of the land, but of course later it became the law when Utah entered the states and the US changed. Some of the women went to DC to fight for their belief. There was no red light district in SLC they said. I studied this a bit in depth many years ago in a class of some kind. If the bible and BoM were considered equals to the world, which they are not outside of the church Randy referred to, you would have your answer pretty clear. That is they are to have one wife unless commanded otherwise to raise righteous folks for that time period. I will have to do some digging for it though. The words in the bible can be tricky and I would need to look at which translation one is using when making references in your thread here. I like old English for this - King James, because how many King James versions are out there now? And we could split hairs on words all night. I could get really abstract about how the word "one" is used since it has a lot to do with the Godhead vs a congregation of people and etc. Oh well, another battle. I guess I wrote a lot and did not help you one bit. But I do get the impression from the bible that even though considered OK, it was by some allowance on Gods part to a few for a purpose. If most had one wife I would think the reference given makes sense in the NT. Also isn't a Bishop to have one wife in the NT? Wish I had my references, sorry. Don;t forget that there are many different authors of the various books in the bible, so it makes a difference who they are and who their audience is, IMO.

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Asian Grocery Stores in the US Additional stores. Online Stores http://www.99ranch.com/StoreLocator.asp?Store=All with locations through out Southern California, the Bay Area, the two in Seattle, and franchises in Vegas and Atlanta. Dougie... hope it's ok to hijack this empty post ! Thanks David, this helps!!! It does not have all cities or stores, so I will march on.

Please post where you shop for Asian food and tell us what you think of the places. Please include links, addresses, maps, phone numbers or what ever you know and I will update the list with your review. Please comment on stores already on the list as well.....Thank You! (PS: I will get this organised better and looking better when I can.) Alabama Florida Tampa: (Post #12) Din Ho Market 8502 N Armenia Ave Tampa, FL 33604 (813) 933-7230 Maria's Fresh Seafood Market 621 E. Cervantes St. Pensacola, Florida (850) 432-4999 http://www.mariasfreshseafoodmarket.com/PageView.asp Illinois Hunan Market 673 N Cass Ave, (Post #4) Westmont, Illinois http://www.ibegin.com/directory/us/illinoi...673-n-cass-ave/ Super H Mart 1295 E. Ogden Ave. (Post #4) Naperville, IL 60563 http://maps.google.com/?q=1295%20E.%20Ogde...e,%20IL%2060563 Louisiana New Orleans, LA Hong Kong Food Market 925 Behrman Hwy Terrytown LAhttp://chowhound.chow.com/topics/466828 Massachusetts Boston Asian markets (Post #10) http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=asian...oc=Boston%2C+Ma New York Rochester, NY area: Lee's Oriental Food & Gifts (Large warehouse like store) 900 Jefferson Rd Ste 1-1, Rochester, NY 14623 (585) 272-7020 West Lake Food Products Inc 85 Commerce Dr, Rochester, NY 14623 (585) 334-0372 Asian Food Market (NEW supermarket like store, my Yu likes best) 1885 Brighton Henrietta Town Line Road, Henrietta NY, 14623 (585) 292 9888 http://rocwiki.org/Grocery_Stores (Under Ethnic) Syracuse: (Post #11) Far East & Asian Groceries 924 N Townsend St, Syracuse, NY 13208 (315) 476-9630 Beijing Chinese Food 4738 Onondaga Blvd Ste 2, Syracuse, NY 13219 (315) 426-1184 Han's Oriental Grocery Inc 2731 Erie Blvd E, Syracuse, NY 13224 (315) 446-7801 Pan-Asian Supermart 124 Headson Dr, De Witt, NY 13214 (315) 446-6688 North Carolina (Post #18) Asian Market (704) 391-7114 1650 Pacific St, Charlotte, NC 28208 Vienghan Asian Food Market (704) 399-3078 3403 Brookshire Blvd, Charlotte, NC 28216 New Asian Market (704) 393-5831 423 Bradford Dr, Charlotte, NC 28208 Asian Market & Seafood 5929 South Blvd Charlotte, NC 28217 Phone: (704) 553-8008 Vinai Asian-Intl Market (828) 322-1295 1221 16th St Ne, Hickory, NC 28601 Asian Market 2636 Northwest Blvd Newton, NC 28658 (828) 464-9005 There is also ONE HUGE Chinese & Asian Mall (Grocery, Jewlery, Clothing, Dishes etc in North Charlotte. (Sorry I don't have the name or the address) but I can give you the directions. (The Mrs Loves this place) If traveling North on I-85 (from SC) get off on exit 41 (Sugar Creek Rd). Turn Right (McDee's on the right). Travel down this 4 lane rd on the inside until you get to the next Main intersection (Tryon) you will know this because Tryon is also a large 4 lane rd. Turn Left & get over to the far right as quickly as possible as the Chinese mall will be on the right. Now do not let the appearance fool you. Yes, it will look like an abandon set of shops with a nasty broken up parking lot. But this is where you will want to be. There are about 30 shops all inside this very old mall building. Here, you will be able to find virtually anything from Live Seafood, to hand made furniture, clothing, all kinds of Asian foods, ingrediants, spices, even Good Ole Chinese Beer. (We buy it by the 4 case lol Once a month trip) When you come, do not get in a hurry as the mrs will want to shop until she drops. While you wait, go inside & find some freshly made chinese bread & pastries, even roast Duck, Fresh Sugarcane drink (made right there while you wait. ) TEXAS Dallas/Fort Worth Area: Arlington: My favorite lowest cost store closed. 3 others near. More later... El Paso Wan Jia Le Supermarket 9501 Gateway West El Paso, TX 79925 Oriental Import, Inc. 9101 Gateway West Houston My Houston Source - (Post #6) http://www.chinatownconnection.com/ Two of the more recent ones that haven't made that list yet are Dun Huang on Bellaire across from Golden Foods, and H-Mart on Blalock near Korea-Town (Longpoint) (Post#9) I agree Randy my wife and I like Dun Huang because of the prices. San Antonio (Post #21) The premier Asian market in San Antonio is: Tim's Oriental & Seafood Mkt 7015 Bandera Rd, #5 San Antonio, TX 78238 (210) 523-1688 He has a good selection and great prices. He is also the main supplier for Chinese restaurants South Texas Washington Seattle area: Post #7 http://www.99ranch.com/ Southend 18230 E. Valley Highway #100 Kent, WA 98032 (425) 251-9099 Northend 22511 Highway 99 Edmonds, WA 98026 425-670-1899 Federal Way has a sizable Korean population, and many Korean stores. In Seattle proper, there is the International District with many asian stores. http://www.99ranch.com/StoreLocator.asp?Store=All All of their stores, with locations through out Southern California, the Bay Area, the two in Seattle, and franchises in Vegas and Atlanta.

Carry your bill fold and valuables in your front pockets.

Pack as light as possible. Cloths can and probably will be washed, even if when your not looking. They hang cloths to dry, at least up North, so plenty of ways to hang. I have watched wife and daughter fold and smooth cloths on a bed by to push the air out and make it very smooth. It takes only a little practice. I took too many cloths and went light the last time. Probably you will want the space to bring some things back. Or take one bag and buy one there to fill up for the return, or to bring some of her things back with you . I like the paper over there. Very strong and springy. Plan to shower every night before bed, whether they do or not. Don't lay on anyones bed with cloths on. Cloths are dirty from wearing outside all day, in their opinion. Conservation is beyond what you can imagine. But don't worry about any of this. If she doesn't help you through it kindly then just go walk around and find one that will sorry about that