China Demands Apology

[IllinoisDave]

China demands apology from CNN

 

And they wonder why they hate Americans?? How sad...............

A lot of people may hate us. But I don't think the Chinese are among them.

 

True Dave as usual..............I meant as our usual we are better then the world attitude at times!!

True.

[LeeFisher3]

The issue seems to be picking up steam, the following email arrived today from our local Chinese Association. I went out to look and found it has 94456 Signatures.

 

All members and friends,

 

You probably have heard the following comments from Jeff Cafferty:

 

On the April 9, 2008 broadcast of CNN's 'Situation Room', when asked to comment on the United States' relationship with China, Cafferty responded in reference to China and the Chinese people in general: 'Well, I don't know if China is any different, but our relationship with China is certainly different. We're in hock to the Chinese up to our eyeballs because of the war in Iraq, for one thing. They're holding hundreds of billions of dollars worth of our paper. We also are running hundred of billions of dollars worth of trade deficits with them, as we continue to import their junk with the lead paint on them and the poisoned pet food and export, you know, jobs to places where you can pay workers a dollar a month to turn out the stuff that we're buying from Wal-Mart. So I think our relationship with China has certainly changed. I think they're basically the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years'.

 

Many of us feel what Cafferty said was offensive and inappropriate, if you feel the same way please join us and sign the following online petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/cnncaff/petition.html

 

More related links for background information:

http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200804...312-567701.html

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-04/...ent_7965345.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Cafferty

[DMikeS4321]

 

A lot of people may hate us. But I don't think the Chinese are among them.

 

 

I agree, Dave. I just hope we can keep it this way.

[Robert S.]

I signed the petition.

[Yuanyang]

The veracity of the report can be summed up with this: "The recent protests in Tibet against five decades of Chinese rule"

 

5 decades?

...

I noticed that too. Apparently people at CNN don't bother to do research.

[Zhen's Tiger]

I signed the petition.

Me too, what a SCUMBAG this guy is...

Edited April 17, 2008 by Zhen's Tiger (see edit history)

[Joanne]

I attended a nation-wide (or even world-wide) event sponsored by the National committee on US-China Relations, the Foreign Policy Research Institute and local entities. It is a webcast followed by on-site briefing and Q&A. The webcast is a talk giving by a political analyst Norman J. Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute.

 

My understanding gained from the talk is that, most of those China-related issues were dragged under spotlight because of the upcoming election. We should expect more storms in media in the next few months. However, the relations between US and China may just go on as usual, except both will be hit by the economic downturn.

 

I forgive, because I heard that Americans are now at the most unhappy point in history. They need a place to vent.

[Joanne]

I attended a nation-wide (or even world-wide) event sponsored by the National committee on US-China Relations, the Foreign Policy Research Institute and local entities. It is a webcast followed by on-site briefing and Q&A. The webcast is a talk giving by a political analyst Norman J. Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute.

 

My understanding gained from the talk is that, most of those China-related issues were dragged under spotlight because of the upcoming election. We should expect more storms in media in the next few months. However, the relations between US and China may just go on as usual, except both will be hit by the economic downturn.

 

I forgive, because I heard that Americans are now at the most unhappy point in history. They need a place to vent.

 

But that SB in CNN is unforgivable!

[david_dawei]

China demands apology from CNN

 

I was going to post this myself but I saw it here first.

 

Mainstream media strikes again. It's freakin' embarrassing to be associated with these idiots on any level. The sky would fall if these comments had been made about Africans or Mexicans. I guess selective racism is selectively O.K.

 

And some complain about Fox News?!!?!?!?

 

It's not selective racism. It's selective hypocrisy. Those that complain the most about China's policies in tibet are the same ones that do all the sabre rattling about why we need to meddle in Iraq civil war.

 

I know this topic is taboo, but I must comment... meddle in it? We caused it! It's a matter of having to lie in the bed you made if you ask me. Creating chaos in another country, then bugging out saying "it's their problem" is high hypocracy.

 

And as for China demanding an apology? Puh-lease. They need a thicker skin, not an apology.

China is just playing the game that CNN started, it's more gamesmanship.

 

It's a whole lot better than China throwing CNN and their employees out of their country.

An observation I made among the people in my wife's city was that once offended it can only be resolved by an apology or a fight; and the latter was very, very rare and usually does more damage to both sides anyways...

[TootTaLu]

Maybe someday there will be an open press and news in China and all will have access to being able to freely report the truth without being shut down.

 

Now hold on just a minute,

Somebody's got to keep a thumb on them,(like I do my wife ).If you dont they will get out of control.

You ever see them all going for the bus door at the same time?

 

I dont think they really care what anybody says about them.

They dont care at all.

They just remind me of watching The 700 Club or Pat Robertson or some such other creepy TV preachers.

 

I love it when they have the whole government on TV sitting there rowed up in tables,each one with exactly the same bottle of water to his left,but you never see anyone drinking from those bottles.

They probably use the same bottles of water at next years meeting.

 

 

Of course any leaders will issue a statment objecting to one thing or another,just to let their people know "we've got your back",but really do you think they care what anybody says about them?

[ChrisA]

Offensive, yes.

 

I bet he won't take a step inside China. Another Loose Cannon running his mouth before engaging his brain.

[LeeFisher3]

Maybe someday there will be an open press and news in China and all will have access to being able to freely report the truth without being shut down.

 

Now hold on just a minute,

Somebody's got to keep a thumb on them,(like I do my wife ).If you dont they will get out of control.

You ever see them all going for the bus door at the same time?

 

I dont think they really care what anybody says about them.

They dont care at all.

They just remind me of watching The 700 Club or Pat Robertson or some such other creepy TV preachers.

 

I love it when they have the whole government on TV sitting there rowed up in tables,each one with exactly the same bottle of water to his left,but you never see anyone drinking from those bottles.

They probably use the same bottles of water at next years meeting.

 

 

Of course any leaders will issue a statment objecting to one thing or another,just to let their people know "we've got your back",but really do you think they care what anybody says about them?

Obviously someone cares:

Since Legal Immigrant Association created the petition on April 10, the total signatures have exceeded 100,000 within one week. The petition has raised awareness of Jack Cafferty's rasict remarks, encouraged many in the Chinese community to speak up, and forced CNN to respond. LIA urges CNN to give a sincere and earnest apology to all the people who feel hurt by Cafferty's insult, and take it as a lesson to avoid racist bashing in the future. We want to thank all of you for your support! Please visit us at http://www.legalimmigrant.org and continue to support us. - LIA, 04/17/2008

[IllinoisDave]

Maybe someday there will be an open press and news in China and all will have access to being able to freely report the truth without being shut down.

 

Now hold on just a minute,

Somebody's got to keep a thumb on them,(like I do my wife ).If you dont they will get out of control.

You ever see them all going for the bus door at the same time?

 

I dont think they really care what anybody says about them.

They dont care at all.

They just remind me of watching The 700 Club or Pat Robertson or some such other creepy TV preachers.

 

I love it when they have the whole government on TV sitting there rowed up in tables,each one with exactly the same bottle of water to his left,but you never see anyone drinking from those bottles.

They probably use the same bottles of water at next years meeting.

 

 

Of course any leaders will issue a statment objecting to one thing or another,just to let their people know "we've got your back",but really do you think they care what anybody says about them?

Obviously someone cares:

Since Legal Immigrant Association created the petition on April 10, the total signatures have exceeded 100,000 within one week. The petition has raised awareness of Jack Cafferty's rasict remarks, encouraged many in the Chinese community to speak up, and forced CNN to respond. LIA urges CNN to give a sincere and earnest apology to all the people who feel hurt by Cafferty's insult, and take it as a lesson to avoid racist bashing in the future. We want to thank all of you for your support! Please visit us at http://www.legalimmigrant.org and continue to support us. - LIA, 04/17/2008

Cafferty's comments may have been a lot of things, but racist ain't one of 'em.

That kind of rhetoric only serves to detract from what may be legitimate complaints IMHO.

[Jeikun]

Maybe someday there will be an open press and news in China and all will have access to being able to freely report the truth without being shut down.

 

Now hold on just a minute,

Somebody's got to keep a thumb on them,(like I do my wife ).If you dont they will get out of control.

You ever see them all going for the bus door at the same time?

 

I dont think they really care what anybody says about them.

They dont care at all.

They just remind me of watching The 700 Club or Pat Robertson or some such other creepy TV preachers.

 

I love it when they have the whole government on TV sitting there rowed up in tables,each one with exactly the same bottle of water to his left,but you never see anyone drinking from those bottles.

They probably use the same bottles of water at next years meeting.

 

 

Of course any leaders will issue a statment objecting to one thing or another,just to let their people know "we've got your back",but really do you think they care what anybody says about them?

Obviously someone cares:

Since Legal Immigrant Association created the petition on April 10, the total signatures have exceeded 100,000 within one week. The petition has raised awareness of Jack Cafferty's rasict remarks, encouraged many in the Chinese community to speak up, and forced CNN to respond. LIA urges CNN to give a sincere and earnest apology to all the people who feel hurt by Cafferty's insult, and take it as a lesson to avoid racist bashing in the future. We want to thank all of you for your support! Please visit us at http://www.legalimmigrant.org and continue to support us. - LIA, 04/17/2008

Cafferty's comments may have been a lot of things, but racist ain't one of 'em.

That kind of rhetoric only serves to detract from what may be legitimate complaints IMHO.

 

Agreed. They showed lack of understanding and painted China as the pseudo-enemy the media seems dead set to portray them as, it implied all of China's exports to the USA were all "crap", and other unfair exaggerations... but there was NOTHING racist in his remarks.

 

I swear people almost WANT to feel discriminated against. I've noticed people who now that they have Chinese wives and in-laws now have become super-sensitive to any implied discrimination, almost as if after decades of being "the man" they are tickeled pink to be a minority by proxy so they can start complaining about the man getting down on them.

 

Branding his comments as racist, and reacting with irrational anger detract from the real issue, as Dave said. They also prevent any real understanding because both sides just get mad.

 

The truth is, SOME of the stuff imported from China IS crap. QUITE A FEW of the leaders, police, and elites in China ARE goons and thugs. But that isn't the whole truth, nor does it look at the underlying reasons, and by making such a broad statement it does nothing but make people angry and polarized.

 

China deserves more respect than a statement like that delivers. But I think we can all agree, unless we live in happy fantasy land with the gumdrop leprechauns, that China does have major issues that need to be adressed. Not so much in China's relationship with the US, but in how they treat their own people (and I'm NOT talking about Tibet). A statement like that just makes misunderstanding among Americans, and makes the Chinese angry so they are actually less likely to pay attention to their own issues because he has taken the role of a "foreign threat".

 

It's like how you can say bad things about a family member, but if someone else does you want to kick their ass. Someone looking down on your family makes you angry at them, and think about how much you love your family and forget about the things about it that you yourself don't like, and rush to defend your family - even if there is some truth to what they said, even if you may have said it to yourself before.

 

So yeah, that guy was being an idiot and was catering to anti-China sentiment and fear of China as a superpower. But he wasn't being a racist. And while we are puffing up with righteous anger at his statements... let's also not forget the nugget of truth that they contain in the process. In the relationship between China and the USA we BOTH need to develop a lot of MUTUAL understanding.

[IllinoisDave]

Agreed. They showed lack of understanding and painted China as the pseudo-enemy the media seems dead set to portray them as, it implied all of China's exports to the USA were all "crap", and other unfair exaggerations... but there was NOTHING racist in his remarks.

 

I swear people almost WANT to feel discriminated against. I've noticed people who now that they have Chinese wives and in-laws now have become super-sensitive to any implied discrimination, almost as if after decades of being "the man" they are tickeled pink to be a minority by proxy so they can start complaining about the man getting down on them.

 

Branding his comments as racist, and reacting with irrational anger detract from the real issue, as Dave said. They also prevent any real understanding because both sides just get mad.

 

The truth is, SOME of the stuff imported from China IS crap. QUITE A FEW of the leaders, police, and elites in China ARE goons and thugs. But that isn't the whole truth, nor does it look at the underlying reasons, and by making such a broad statement it does nothing but make people angry and polarized.

 

China deserves more respect than a statement like that delivers. But I think we can all agree, unless we live in happy fantasy land with the gumdrop leprechauns, that China does have major issues that need to be adressed. Not so much in China's relationship with the US, but in how they treat their own people (and I'm NOT talking about Tibet). A statement like that just makes misunderstanding among Americans, and makes the Chinese angry so they are actually less likely to pay attention to their own issues because he has taken the role of a "foreign threat".

 

It's like how you can say bad things about a family member, but if someone else does you want to kick their ass. Someone looking down on your family makes you angry at them, and think about how much you love your family and forget about the things about it that you yourself don't like, and rush to defend your family - even if there is some truth to what they said, even if you may have said it to yourself before.

 

So yeah, that guy was being an idiot and was catering to anti-China sentiment and fear of China as a superpower. But he wasn't being a racist. And while we are puffing up with righteous anger at his statements... let's also not forget the nugget of truth that they contain in the process. In the relationship between China and the USA we BOTH need to develop a lot of MUTUAL understanding.

Now THAT'S the post I wish I would've written. Bravo Jason!