ChrisA

Randy, There trying to buck the BIA Decision in the Matter of LE, with this statement 4 years after the fact, too many cases of been Adjudicated since June 2011 for this hold any water. a good lawyer can handle this.

If you haven't got the GC yet, expect an Interview, same thing happened with us.

Chilton, I agree, seems that we both fit into the same catagory, in my case someone is learning a hard lesson now. As for the OP, there is 1 interesting point to make, once his wife rely's on the word of others and believes this to be the absolute truth, it's almost a lost cause at this point. The situation is different of what the OP stated about the Chinese friends parents versus what his wife wants for her daughter. Life with the OP and his wife will take a major turn and be tested to the max at this point, until she's ready to accept the fact that we don't change law to fit our needs, that there is no other work around to accomplish the desires of the wife to get her daughter here sooner. That's the reason why we have laws.

This is the first time I have seen this interpretation of the 40 credits rule. Do you have a link? I haven't seen this either?

The of the 7th Cir decision, is that it’s being fought in the courts now in regards to the I-864, points to be taken into account , does she have a marketable skill, if so, then there is no reason not to seek employment unless his wife had the mind set of being (trophy wife). In the case provided, she refused to seek employment. The use of my current situation is a good example of having this contract terminated by other means.

There was a recent 7th CA decision that argued the point of the (wife or ex-wife) wasn’t actively seeking employment, were the Judge declared that the Affidavit of Support was null and void. As my divorce is nearing and the Tax filing deadline just around the corner, filing separately, the ex-will get charged with TF, thus being charged with a felony, which is a deportable offense, this will end the contract between myself and the Government. http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/KC1FFH73.pdf

Mostly played in Europe.

My Step-son dropped by yesterday to wish me a Happy Father's Day. His words; "Dad, Thanks for helping me throught the tough times. How could I be so lucky to have a Dad like you. I Love You! Thank You So Much"

Right you are Randy. As an example, when I was in the military in Nam I noticed that the higher rankin' the officer the more flies he had followin' him. We had these 3 and 5 hole out houses in Phu Loi and good gawd man, if anyone over the rank of a left handed salutin' warrant officer walked in the trail of flies in his wake was jes downright awful. Enlisted men, no problem but you git some higher rankin' desk jockey and WOOO...you'd have to go outside to finish yore business...they wuz "fly hives" I tells ya. tsap seui LOL http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/beijing-s-two-fly-limit-toilet-rule/16itfgdy7?from

She committed herself when she slepted with him, unsure if he knows what that means to her. I understand his position, singel parent, three kids at home, it's not like he can just pick-up and go and live in China, travel yes. I hope he's able to re-connect with her.

The question becomes, will she cast-out as the black sheep of the family, or will it take time for her family to accept her choice for a husband. I understand the traditional culture values, but times are changing, if parents don't understand it's the daughters choice (parents being selfish), not their choice who she decides to spends the rest of there life with, the point that is missing is her happiness. We can't predict what their future will be, no more that the parents can, her choice could become the next (Mark Z from Facebook) for all we know. My point here is they have set the foundation of a strong relationship, have a life plan together and are going to see it through not matter what anyone says. Example, if a Turkish women is already promised at an early age, to be married to someone who the father knows (typically to a family relative or someone close to the family), but she's not in love with the chosen person, then the father is forcing his will on his daughter, is this right? In some cases this ends up with negative results, the daughter being killed because she has disgrace her family because of Culture. The middle-east is a good example of what can happen, it does happen in Europe and sometime here i the US. Another example, my ex at 43 still had to ask her parents for permission before she married me, and I went through an 1 1/2 Q&A session with her brothers and sisters, dam you would think at this age she would able to make her own decission in reference to her future. That's really funny Chris. I can imagine my inlaws and Wenyan's two brothers grilling me for an hour and a half about us gettin' married. Heck, we'd laugh through most anything they could ask. Wenyan was 43 also when I met her and her family, 45 when we got married there in China. I get along great with the family, we are usually laughing our butts off at some silly thing I do, or something funny they say. The whole family has a great sense of humor...I can't even imagine things gettin' serious enough that they would think to ask me questions.....maybe that's because on my first trip when I kept seeing them say "Gambe" and emptyin' their glasses at our first meal in ma and ba's home I thought it was some kind of toast....so, next time one of them said gambe I said Chairman Mao as I raised my glass...that got a big laugh but the next time they said gambe I said Mao Zedong....they went crazy with laughter and pointing at me. Any ice that may have been got melted at that first dinner together. Then 2 years later when it looked like we were never going to get a visa I bought Wenyan a new home, and we hadn't even married yet. That deed I reckon showed them the funny white boy wuz serious about their lil' girl. Heck, I bought the house because it looked like that was where Uncle Sammy was going to mandate that I was to live, if I wanted to be with Wenyan. Not tryin' to make fun of a serious matter like a family askin' the intended what his plans were, it's just that our family relationship would get side tracked with laughter if they had started askin' me questions.. Shucks, I think the last time I was ever serious was back in 1962, and I can't even remember what that was all about. Hope things go well in September for you. tsap seui Tsap, Actually, you may not know it, but the relatives and the partying fell into their plan, you may not have know it at the time. On every visit, when the family was out to have dinner, one of the brother's would bring BYOB to the table just for the men, it's their way to see if they can get you drunk, to see you show your "True Face". But in my case it didn't work, having lived in Europe for more than 25 years, I have drank just about everything you could image, so trying to get me drunk wouldn't work, I'm by no means a drinker, but if need be I can drank anyone of the four under the table. Example, take an average American, sent him to Germany, let him drink four German beers, he doesn't realize he just drank a half a case of beer, 1 German beer (9% at 1/2 liter)) equals 3 American beer (3.2% at 36 ozs) by alcohol content by volume. Man, I have seen guys crawling on hand and knees across the parade field, trying to get back to the Barracks because they couldn't walk. As for the ex, she'd been married twice before, I guess it was more of being accepted into the family, than anything else. September has ben tabled for the moment, due to the delay of the divorce and settlement, I'll PM with the details later.

The question becomes, will she cast-out as the black sheep of the family, or will it take time for her family to accept her choice for a husband. I understand the traditional culture values, but times are changing, if parents don't understand it's the daughters choice (parents being selfish), not their choice who she decides to spends the rest of there life with, the point that is missing is her happiness. We can't predict what their future will be, no more that the parents can, her choice could become the next (Mark Z from Facebook) for all we know. My point here is they have set the foundation of a strong relationship, have a life plan together and are going to see it through not matter what anyone says. Example, if a Turkish women is already promised at an early age, to be married to someone who the father knows (typically to a family relative or someone close to the family), but she's not in love with the chosen person, then the father is forcing his will on his daughter, is this right? In some cases this ends up with negative results, the daughter being killed because she has disgrace her family because of Culture. The middle-east is a good example of what can happen, it does happen in Europe and sometime here i the US. Another example, my ex at 43 still had to ask her parents for permission before she married me, and I went through an 1 1/2 Q&A session with her brothers and sisters, dam you would think at this age she would able to make her own decission in reference to her future.

First off, it's a matter of respect of the people and the culture, we can't change their opinions, but we can shape it to a point, behavioral actions speak louder than words and with this said, it's still up to the viewer to accept and not to accept us in there country. The topic could be changed to: What does the Average World Citizen think of the Chinese? Or any other Country for that matter! Opinions may vary based on mileage and country of response? As for shopping, the ex was the one made the purchases, naturally she knew that the local shop owners would take advantage of a foreigner shopping in there stores. Kind of reminds me of the couples day spent in Hong Kong, walking in the shopping district, I was approached by a guy from India, had a nice tailor shop, he stopped me, asking if i want to buy a suit,, I asked him how much and he said 900 HKD, I said no thank you and fallowed with I can get the same suit in Mainland China for $80 US.

Honestly Chris, I think you would be very surprised to see the elite social circles of China. There are many educated professional women in China who hold avanced degrees from prestigious American Universities. There are even more who hold bachelors degrees, who spent only the 3-4 years in the foreign country it took to get the degree. The other side of the spectrum, are Chinese women who hold advanced degrees from Chinese or other Asian countries; Taiwan for example. These women are at the top of their game. They speak impeccable English and have extraordinary grammar skills. Any of them would dance circles around most Western people when tested. Their knowledge of world events and culture is uncanny. These women are not interested in the common man. Why would they be after all the hard work, time and money their families have invested. I can agree with what your saying, but there are other women out there that are not as advanced from an education standpoint, and they don't fall into the elite status as your saying. What is the percentage of say 1 million Chinese women looking for a lifes mate that fall into this category? I mean a Western man with BA in under-qualified by your standards or the standards your suggesting to be a possible husband, so in a sense we are a common man in relationship to these elite women who hold Masters or Phd's? There are over 338,000 women on AFF looking for a man. You might want to open your eyes too! Take a look at AFF, you might be surprised.

Honestly Chris, I think you would be very surprised to see the elite social circles of China. There are many educated professional women in China who hold avanced degrees from prestigious American Universities. There are even more who hold bachelors degrees, who spent only the 3-4 years in the foreign country it took to get the degree. The other side of the spectrum, are Chinese women who hold advanced degrees from Chinese or other Asian countries; Taiwan for example. These women are at the top of their game. They speak impeccable English and have extraordinary grammar skills. Any of them would dance circles around most Western people when tested. Their knowledge of world events and culture is uncanny. These women are not interested in the common man. Why would they be after all the hard work, time and money their families have invested. I can agree with what your saying, but there are other women out there that are not as advanced from an education standpoint, and they don't fall into the elite status as your saying. What is the percentage of say 1 million Chinese women looking for a lifes mate that fall into this category? I mean a Western man with BA in under-qualified by your standards or the standards your suggesting to be a possible husband, so in a sense we are a common man in relationship to these elite women who hold Masters or Phd's?

You'll have to look around there are a number of threads in different places, start looking and reading the threads and responses, be informed.

OK, interesting, she did get married, got her 2 year Conditional Green Card, gave it up and returned to China or was she still here on her K1 Visa? Was it a compatablility issue with the ex, or was because the relationship was arranged? The next big question, is she divorced, if not she isn't legally able to marry again, so what is the scoop on this? You need to address this soon, is her ex filing by default, which would be the easiest way, but he will have to invest money to have the divorce papers translated and served in China or at least sent via EMS where she has to sign for the documents. I would say from what is provided, give it a lot of time as she will be on the radar screen if you rush things from this point forward, I hope you understand where I'm coming from, any petition you might file for her, both USCIS & DOS are going to take a real deep look at, as she has been petitioned before to come to the US. My personal feeling is, are you two ready to invest at least 2 years of time to build the solid foundation for your relationship. I'm sure other here will also have some comments, keep an open ear!

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?/topic/44627-starting-over-needing-some-advice/ Problems and Parting in the Members section, there are other threads too, take the time to read them, at least you'll what to look for if this is your gut feeling.

On top of that, she's been living here for close to 10 years, so she has learned our system and how we live. It's not the same for some one just arriving here and having to learn all over again from scratch.

Welcome to World of Red Tape. "I have not found one piece of information to suggest that we can get married in China and then go directly to the embassy and bypass all the red-tape." Even if your were living and working in China and were able to do a DCF, it would still take some months to get your IR1/CR1 Visa. You still have a number months after your married before you get the Visa for your wife. Her source of information is outdated and the laws have changed, along with the procedures to obtain a Visa. How many times have you been to China to visit her? It's kind of hard to give you guidience without know some details of where you are in your relationship?

A single pack today cost about $7.50, naturally you could buy them in China for about $2.00 a pack.

God, just about everyone on this forum has play the Ni Hao (hello) game with younger generations while out and about in the general population (shopping etc.), so it happens directly and indirectly, even when you go for dinner it's happening, but they get over it pretty quickly and accept that you are there in there presents. I remember well one time being out traveling with ex's family in a rural area, and we stop a local farmer's market, they had never seen a foreigner, I could feel every eyeball on me as soon as I stepped out of the car.

The biggest mistake anyone wanted to take gifts back to China, is buying them at the airport and on the plane, but I won't stop you if you do, if you like paying twice the normal price go ahead and buy them. Seriously, I traveled a great deal in Europe, name the Canary Islands, smokes there on the island were half the cost than you could purchase on the plane, you'd be surprise how many fools purchased goods on the plane, just because it was said Duty Free which was the same price in mainland Europe, even at the airport shops, you'll pay about 1/3 than normal for the same product outside the airport. Just be smart about what your going to take, and plan ahead, as Larry said, what ever it is, pack it your bagage.

Wow, having words about staring or ogling, this goes hand in hand, happen to me every time I was in China, and it’s not gender related, men and women are doing it, the men on the other hand gave rude, degusting and nasty looks when the ex and I were walking hand in hand. The women gave mostly hard none approving looks, mostly from jealousy or some other factor. It happens in every society, get used to it. The younger generation didn’t really care, but they were looking too. Seriously I remember standing at bus stop, and the guys riding their moped’s suffering whip-lash every time they saw a foreigner waiting for the bus, was funny as hell as I was waiting for one of them to run into a bus, told the ex that they need to have the United Color of Benetton Poster with all the different races painted on all the walls at all the bus stops so the people would get used to seeing foreigners. Now if want to see some people who will really stare at you, go to Germany, it’s not a 15 second stare, it could last up to a minute.

Have you checked the local Chinese newspapers, for someone in Mesa of Chandler. http://www.cindybeautytrends.com/ Cindy use to work for my ex.