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About 10 years ago a friend was in China teaching. Before he and his wife were to come home he sent me an e-mail . Is there anything I can bring you from China. I said in a joking manner How about a nice chinese woman.Little did I know that half the population wants out of China. Next thing I know I have an phone number and I said what the heck. I went to see her for a few weeks. She did move to Canada about 3 hours from my home. The relationship lasted for 4-5 years in total. She had a temper and I was not rich enough. So we went out different paths. I really did enjoy the cultural difference .I went on match.com years later. They did have a place for income level of the desired partner. If you took an average "5" woman her "requirement " for income of her future husband would rise $15-20,000 for every point above "5" that they were. The one's that I could afford according to them were 50-100 pounds more than I weigh. Then you had better have a full head of hair. A new car helps also. Then there is the " I love living on the water thing" That is a half million dollar item right there. This is what I have seen. Bashing women .....no just the truth. Once in a while you go out for dinner to a chinese restaurant with friends. Something just gets in your head watching the woman work and serve you. You hardly see a lazy person working in a chinese restaurant. After many years of being divorced and out of a relationship I decided to go back to china for a partner. It took a while to sift through many different women. Mainly using match.com. Having dated a very respectable chinese woman made it a great deal faster. I think I talked to my share of scammers. It sounds weird maybe but I used this first woman as a bench mark. Outside her temper she had a great many outstanding qualities about her. Very classy a lot of drive. I found Yan . It has worked out very well. Few problems. We both are easy going and have little temper. (nothing worse than a chinese woman with a temper)Yan has a great deal of drive also. For her age she looks great also Yes it would be boring married to a white american woman now. I have friends who have hardly traveled out of this state. Whine because all the good ones are married. Would never think of an international marriage. This being involved with someone from china has opened up my life more than you would think. What go to china "are you crazy"There are people reading this who's relationship has failed or will fail in the future. We hope not but a certain percentage will fail. Even if it does you are so far ahead of that guy or gal working next to you . You have had a bit more of "life" than most .

Yan's grandmother was married to a man with 2 wives. So this subject may be closer than you think if you dig into your wife's family history. Many cultures do embrace this line of thinking. Watching PBS once they did a show on one of the "Stan " countries just west of China. They had a practice where maybe 30% of the women were "kidnaped" by their future husband prior to marriage. It showed a group of friends who would go to a nearby city scout out a girl. Maybe working in a shop and at some point in the future grab her off the street and take her back to the village .Lock her in a room until she agrees to marry. The whole family is in on this mother,grandmother aunts. Getting back to topic it was mentioned that some rich men would have more than one wife. There is a saying in that country "better to be the 2nd wife of a rich man than the 1st wife of a poor one". We in this western country cannot wrap this idea around our head . This is the best country in the world to be poor. How ever poor in other countries of the world including parts of China means you have almost nothing. For your entire life. I have a friend who lived in the back country (bush) in Africa. Men there were hunters. Now there is nothing to hunt. So all the men sit under a shade tree and do nothing. It is woman's work to farm the land and keep the house. Water is carried on the top of one's head 2-3 miles from the village to keep the supply clean. A woman will use a morter to grind the corn into a flour. Making food for dinner is a lot of work. Hours of it. Every day. They do practice polygamy. There is a twist to it. The 1'st wife picks the second. Why ...She does not want a lazy help mate. Second wife is not going to be pleasing her husband under that shade tree all day. She will be out in the sun hoeing the corn or washing clothes in the river by hand. Just a little different spin on this subject than one thinks about.

If you enroll at a college she would have to pass a test in dealing with an understanding of english. If she cannot pass then she will be required to take ESL before anything else can happen. Yan said forget all her chinese..... Think and learn in english. Yan is taking 2 courses and everything is in english . The teacher talks in english , It enters her brain in english, she spit's out the answer in english. No chinese is involved. She never studied this subject in china. She thinks if she took a course she has had in china (like computers) Her thinking would be in chinese mode. Even if it was taught in english. Kinda strange

4000 workers,290 million in debt in just 5 years. How many people have the ability to manage this much growth in a company? It is easy to blame the economy when other factors if the truth were known were involved. The headache in dealing with this company would be more than anyone would want. IF you were interested in being successfull years into the future.

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I think those travel tissues work the best. You will not need them in hotels . If you are going to eat any food while in china then a quick RUN to ANY restroom may be in order. You will not be happy when you look around and find you left home without it. I would check with your doctor and see if he can write you something for diarrhoea, ciprofloxin or the like. My first trip into china to see a now exgirlfriend it was needed. Her mother was a retired medical doctor and she has some handy. It seemed like 12 hours after taking some I was a new man. I would take some over the counter medical drugs with you for colds or small cuts . A quick chat with your doctor is a good idea before you go he may reccomend some vaccinations.or booster for TD. I had Hep 1+2 . Some people shrug this off. I stayed at yans home and she washed my clothes. She did not have a dryer so it was drip dry in the kitchen. I had her put a fan on them to help speed things along.As far as buying clothes in china it depends on your size. I am over 6 ft tall and yan wanted to buy me some clothes. Nothing fit me.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394012224530655.html Staring Down the Barrel: the Rise of Guns in China In a Nation That Bans Guns and Celebrates Them, Armed Criminals and Hunters Pose New Problems for Authorities Shanghai -- China's weapons laws are among the world's toughest. Its blanket ban on private ownership of rifles, pistols and even gun replicas is a core tenet of social policy. Still, a gun culture is taking hold. China may be freer from gun crime than many nations, and official statistics show overall crime on a continuous down trend. Yet, these days, reports about gun crimes turn up as often as several times a week even in the tightly controlled state-run media. The reports are often brief, without much follow-up as cases progress. Still, the splashy gunfights, murders, gun-factory raids and smuggling busts that get reported contrast with China's zero-tolerance stance on guns, and point to changes in criminals' behavior. But the trend is about more than crime. Guns are now fashionable in paintings and movies, while Chinese-language Web sites and glossy magazines cater to gun buffs. And legal shooting clubs in cities let customers fire away at targets for a fee. Bored with golfing, some affluent businessmen slip into the countryside for hunts. Even as China's government seeks to keep guns off the street, and shields its massive gun-manufacturing business behind state-secrets laws, it helps stoke the public imagination about guns. Schoolchildren learn to salute the flag shouldering imitation rifles, while state media celebrate the heroism of military and athletic marksmanship. "In the 1960s, shooting was for national defense," said Xie Xianqiao, a former amateur shooting coach. "These days, shooting is entertainment." Weapons Trail See a timeline of major events involving guns in China. Erosion in China's gun controls reflects the Communist Party's slow retreat from most people's daily lives. Chinese increasingly spend their free time as they want. The Party also has less power to control the supply of guns at a time when the wealthy are looking for protection and recreation, and criminals are searching for an advantage. The main source of guns appears to be lax control of gun factories and theft from arsenals. China is one of the world's largest gun manufacturers -- for the export market and for its security forces. Older guns are left from past wars and a time when hunting was common. The police have also busted workshops that forge guns and bullets by hand inside China. Meanwhile, people illegally import replicas -- exact-looking imitations of guns. The government holds gun-surrender drives, appealing to citizens with posters in subways to turn in arms with no questions asked, or even for cash. A six-month campaign this year netted 79,000 guns, 1.8 million replica guns and 5.75 million bullets, the Ministry of Public Security said last month. A similar effort in 2006 turned up 178,000 guns and 638,000 replicas in four months. Associated Press A particular frustration for Chinese authorities is the proliferation of fake weapons, such as the ones destroyed by Shanghai police last year. Authorities report on gun seizures in order to demonstrate their ability to control the flow of weapons. But the effort backfired in July, when three journalists were injured after a gun misfired during a police news conference on illegal weapons in Nanchong, Sichuan. Yet gun crimes continue to grab headlines. Early last year, a man in the northeast went on a rampage with a homemade pistol, killing five family members and neighbors. In September 2007, a young Guangzhou man was found guilty of using a replica gun to rob a bank customer of $218,000, and drew a 19-year prison sentence. In December, a guard at a munitions dump machine-gunned a colleague over a chess match. Two days later, he was killed, too, in a shootout with police. Guns have also been a factor in this year's unrest in China's remote Tibetan and Muslim regions. A policeman was hit six times in an April incident that authorities described as a "gun battle" that left him and a Tibetan insurgent dead. The Ministry of Public Security says its police increasingly face armed and aggressive suspects. Most Chinese police aren't armed, and they sometimes are provided little more than a uniform to do their job. An emerging market for bulletproofing underscores the need. At a police-gear trade show in Beijing last April, bulletproof vests bearing Chinese police logos were on display, along with bulletproof BMWs and Jaguars. DuPont Co. showed the protective qualities of Kevlar. Like other technologies, guns have a long history here. Chinese invented gunpowder more than a thousand years ago, and soon developed one of the first guns, called a "fire spear." Rifles were widely available by the late 19th century, when war and revolution began engulfing the country. In 1938, as the Communists battled the Japanese and the ruling Nationalists for control, Mao Zedong made his famous remark that "political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" -- foreshadowing strict gun laws the Communists later imposed. Gun control was introduced in 1966, after children aiming a Spanish rifle at sparrows near Tiananmen Square shot out a window in the Great Hall of the People, according to an official history of the Ministry of Public Security. Authorities grew more vigilant after the violently suppressed pro-democracy demonstrations of 1989, and after rapid economic growth began to spur social tensions. Newscom Earlier this year, police checked illegally owned guns in China's Henan province. The government imposed the current rules in 1996, forbidding the private manufacture, sale, transport, possession, import or export of bullets and guns, including replicas. Possession of a single gun is grounds for a prison sentence of as long as three years, and the penalty for a gun crime often is execution. In July, a Shanghai man drew a prison sentence of 12 years, and his wife 11 years, for possessing three guns and 600,000 bullets, plus peddling weapons on the Internet. Chinese authorities say they dealt with 4,666 gun cases last year. Officials often respond to sensational gun crimes in the U.S. and elsewhere by affirming the need to maintain tough laws. With guns often hard to buy, some criminals forge them instead. Late last year, Shanghai police responded to a call about a robbery in progress at a gritty scrap yard. According to a police spokesman, officers spotted a man fleeing the scene and yelled "freeze," but he pulled a crude homemade pistol from a bag. Witnesses say the suspect was brought down after a gunfight that had shots echoing all around the neighborhood. A police spokesman said the suspect, identified as Tang Qingjie, was shot in the leg by an officer. He said Mr. Tang had never managed to fire his weapon, which in a police photo appeared to have been soldered together. The handling of Mr. Tang's case also offers a possible indication of why gun crimes in China seem so rare. They sometimes aren't highlighted when criminal charges are made public. When Shanghai prosecutors formally arraigned Mr. Tang in September, they alleged he committed robbery -- a serious charge but not one that automatically suggests use of a weapon. Speaking generally about Chinese law, a court spokesman said evidence of a gun can be introduced during a robbery trial. But criminal trials in China aren't always open to the public, and evidence can be suppressed. The Communist Party lauds marksmanship enough to give freshmen college students basic training in it. Shooting produced a national hero for China in 1984, when Xu Haifeng became the country's first Olympic gold medalist by winning the 50-meter pistol event in Los Angeles. At this year's Beijing Games, China won five of its 51 gold medals in shooting events. Beijing's support for the sport has helped spur a rise of hobby enthusiasts. The government has sanctioned businesses such as the Shanghai East Shooting Club, a former bomb shelter where customers can have a drink and fire a variety of weapons. Owner Zhang Jiewei says his clients are looking to relax. But increasingly, gun fans are gaining access to guns -- and hunting illegally. In rural Anhui province last year, a group of wealthy businessmen, gun-club owners and former army officers organized wild-fowl shoots. Feasting on game cooked in a spicy brown sauce, one of them toasted, "Guns have brought us together." Gun buffs can turn to Small Arms, a twice-monthly glossy magazine that claims 60,000 subscribers. The Beretta M9 semiautomatic pistol "is classic," said Zheng Zhoujian, an 18-year-old reader. "I envy people in other countries where guns are legal." -- Ellen Zhu and Bai Lin contributed to this article. Write to James T. Areddy at james.areddy@wsj.com

I suspect that they are trying to deal with an expired visa due to an overstay. Perhaps a tourist entered china and obtained a job for a year or two say teaching (wrong visa ) and now is trying to leave china . They can now pull you over for questioning. Also with a new passport issued in china due to "theft" they would want to find out when you entered on what class you entered and it was valid for how long. I can see this being pulled often by people of every country to get around obtaining a visa needed to work within china. You just "happen" to have a new passport issued while in china. No one one this board has ever mentioned needing an exit visa due to obtaining a visitors visa and leaving before it expires.

I think by treaty we are required to come to their aid.

I was talking to a financial planner today and she mentioned this subject. I wish I had this problem but maybe many of you need to look into this if your estate is over 2 million. http://www.wwlaw.com/alien1.htm I just pulled this off the internet. It talks about a "Q dot" in a easy to read manner.

As I am reading this it sends chills down my spine . Yan has a son who will come here to my home from china. He is 15 now. His father has had custody papers noterized and will be sent to us soon so we can begin the process. He has transfered the custody to yan. I have thought this proof of a relationship between parents and a child was a bit cut and dried. I see that I am wrong. We have not started any paperwork yet so what "proof" will we need to show a continuing relationship. Yan has used a phone card and hardly any mail has been exchanged between them . We do have a fair amount of photos of the two of them together. When I was in China to see yan her son was not too keen on this idea so we have no photos of the three of us together. Perhaps an oversite on my part. Right at this point there are no e-mails,snail mail or phone bills that we can quickly lay our hands on. I really did not think this was necessary. Proof of a relationship with your mother. Who would have thought about this. I will sponser the child as my stepson. Yan was K-1

There is a very good reason for not bringing in meat from china. As a country with foot and mouth disease the chances of bringing this to the UnitedStates is too great. You would be talking billions of Dollars loss to the livestock industry. http://www.mda.state.mn.us/animals/diseases/footmouth.htm Salami and other meats from FMD-affected countries could harbor the virus, so anyone coming to America from those countries must not bring meat products from those countries into the United States If those products were fed to animals, they could spread the virus to United States livestock;

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For anyone heading to china for the first time this is a good read .....well done. A lot of people only make one trip and have a good interview.

People get booster shots all the time. Often 2-3 series in a row. Look at Tetanus. Most often a doctor will ask you when the last time you had a tetanus shot if you have a deep cut .If more than 10 years .....Drop your pants. As mentioned above most people in the world have been exposed to chicken pox so a blood test will show no need for one. You think in the army they ask when the last time you had a shot when you join up ......get in line boys get in line.

Yan had one tooth pulled in china . she only has one filling total. overall her teeth are in good shape. Age will have a lot to do with quality of the teeth. Back in the cultural revolution the diet was not as good as later years.

It was yan's second marriage ,She was K-1 so cost of marriage was here and subject never was mentioned.

When I tried to add yan to my account we need SS number and proof of residency. A phone bill worked. I believe the marriage certificate was also needed.

what happens if you would rather not have this train go by your house.You demand an enviromental impact study. Find a butterfly in the area and declare it endangered. Tie it up in courts for 10 years. The american way

The IOC was compelled to further examine the issue after claims of new documents surfaced that supposedly proved that He Yang and and Jiang Yuyuan might be as young as 14. After further investigation today, the IOC ruled this to be over. The following is one of the many unfortunate side-effects: It seems there are just some of you that would prefer believing that the girls are underage. Just ask you wife about the ages. Yan said she looked 12 .

http://www.hiiraan.com/comments2-news-2008...ram_halted.aspx Thousands in Africa Lied about Families To Gain U.S. Entry By MIRIAM JORDAN August 20, 2008; Page A3 The State Department has suspended a humanitarian program to reunite thousands of African refugees with relatives in the U.S. after unprecedented DNA testing by the government revealed widespread fraud. Associated Press The U.S. has halted refugee arrivals from East Africa, where hundreds of thousands of people have been stranded since civil war erupted in the 1990s. The freeze affects refugees in Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda, Guinea and Ghana, many of whom have been waiting years to emigrate. The State Department says it began DNA testing with a pilot program launched in February to verify blood ties among African refugees. Tests found some applicants lied about belonging to the same family to gain a better chance at legal entry. The U.S. has responded by halting refugee arrivals from East Africa, where hundreds of thousands of people have been stranded in precarious conditions since civil war erupted in the early 1990s. The temporary suspension has generated panic in African communities in the U.S., where thousands wait to be joined by relatives. Typically, a refugee already living in the U.S., a so-called anchor, is entitled to apply for permission to bring a spouse, minor children, parents and siblings. The process requires interviews, medical examinations and security screening. But suspicion has grown in recent years that unrelated Africans were posing as family members to gain entry. "This program is designed for people to reunify with family members" already in the U.S., says Barbara Strack, director of the refugee division at U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services. "We wanted to have empirical data" to confirm suspected fraud, she says. In February, the State Department launched pilot testing in Kenya to verify family relationships, mainly among Somalis. When applicants arrived for a previously scheduled appointment, a U.S. official asked them to volunteer for a DNA test. An expert then swabbed the cheek of those who claimed biological relationships, such as a mother and her purported children. The cell samples were sent to labs in the U.S. for analysis. As word spread, some applicants began missing appointments, and others refused to cooperate. Laboratory analysis of the samples indicated a large portion of applicants weren't blood relations, as they claimed. "The results were dismaying," says Ms. Strack. "This told us we had a problem with the program." The results prompted expansion of the testing to other countries. "We had high rates of fraud everywhere, except the Ivory Coast," says a State Department official. In late April, the government decided to temporarily halt the family reunification resettlement program for East Africans. A government official confirms that "many thousands of people" are affected by the suspension, particularly Somalis and Ethiopians. Refugee resettlement agencies report that arrivals have slowed to a trickle. In Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minn., home to the country's largest East African population, Catholic Charities hasn't handled a single family reunification case since March 19. The agency has resettled 35 East African families this year, compared with more than 450 last year and about 1,300 in 2006. "Everyone is calling or walking in here and asking what is going on," says Angela Fox, a resettlement worker at Catholic Charities. Some refugees received a notice from U.S. authorities advising them that their case is on hold because relatives didn't show up for a scheduled interview or they refused to supply a DNA sample. Those who agreed to take the test are also in limbo. Abdirahman Dhunkal, who hails from Somalia, petitioned in early 2005 for his father, mother and six siblings who are in Kenya to join him in Minnesota. Their case was approved in late 2006, but Mr. Dhunkal says that his family was asked to take a DNA test earlier this year. Since the cell samples were collected, "nothing has happened. We are still waiting," says Mr. Dhunkal, 31, who hasn't seen his family in 14 years. The government testing has raised questions about using DNA as an immigration tool. "No one condones people gaining entry by false means; the integrity of the program must be ensured," says Bob Carey, chair of Refugee Council USA, a coalition of U.S. agencies that work on refugee issues, and vice president of resettlement for the International Rescue Committee. However, he adds, "DNA is not the only means to assess family relationships." Refugee advocates say the definition of family among Africans extends beyond blood relatives, especially when families fleeing persecution are scattered. "Some families are raising children who aren't their own but whom they call son or daughter," says Ms. Fox of Catholic Charities. Refugee slots are precious. The world's uprooted people are estimated to number 37 million; only about 1% are resettled. As the largest recipient, the U.S. absorbs about half of all refugees who are resettled. Such demand "creates an incentive to get past the system," says Ralston H. Deffenbaugh Jr., president of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services. "Desperation makes people more susceptible to abuse or bribery." To be approved as a refugee, an applicant must establish that he or she has suffered persecution or has a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, creed or origin. Between Oct. 1, 2007, and Aug. 13 of this year, the U.S. admitted 45,644 refugees. For the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, 2008, the Bush administration set a ceiling for African refugees at 16,000. But by Aug. 13, only 6,780 Africans had been admitted. Family unity has long been a pillar of U.S. refugee admissions, with relatives accorded priority. U.S. officials say the government must balance a need to ensure the integrity of the program with the desire to let in vulnerable refugees. The government hasn't decided whether to expand testing to compare the DNA of relatives in the U.S. with those abroad to verify kinship.

If you enter a different country than china you may need a visa to enter. http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations...ation/index.jsp

While traveling in china over 10 years ago my chinese girlfriend would make it a point to use the hotel safe. A friend of mine was in china last year and in the middle of the night found a man in her room. He entered by an open window and it was a second story room. She screamed and he fled out the window climed down a stout drain pipe.

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13959 I found this in the search but a few questions. Yan's ex has custody. Her son is 15 .We would like to file for him soon. From reading this all that is needed is a letter noterized granting permission for her son to immigrate to the United States from her ex. Is this correct. Will we need several copies? If someone has gone through this process what is the best way to proceed. I understand I have to file as a step father and it will take about a year. Yan has read on 001 that she needs to go to court in china and get custody in her name . This is not what I am reading here. What other legal papers will be needed. She must return to GUZ with her son at interview time correct . This is her plan anyway.Then bring her son here from GUZ. What about transcripts from highschool. ? Things like that.

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