Randy W

. . . including Chinese people !! No way. Part of the Japanese writing and Korean writing came from the Chinese. I'm not kidding - they don't recognize the Japanese Hirakana and Katakana alphabets, the Korean characters are totally different. Randy, the Chinese may not be able to read some of the Japanese characters or the modern Korean characters, but literate Chinese certainly know the difference between all three written languages. Now if you're saying that there are some illiterate Chinese people who can't tell, I can believe you as there are indeed some rural illiterate Chinese people in China who can't even read Chinese but Tony is right that all educated and literate Chinese people who can read and write Chinese can tell the difference between written Chinese, Japanese or Korean. Sorry, guy, but there is at least one Chinese PhD here in the office who can't - he doesn't do Pinyin, either (from near Shanghai). I doubt that my wife could, either. Okay - this is the text I showed her, and asked her which was Chinese, Japanese, or Korean: http://i12.tinypic.com/2ciijur.jpg She answered correctly "No Chinese", but did not recognize the others as Korean or Japanese. The only computer input method she knows is the writing pad (handwriting recognition). She graduated high school in 1979 (I think). I think the only language consistently taught as a second language is (or was) Mandarin.

. . . And so now you come on Candle and try to control us?

Ok, I'll check with her tonight. Don't forget, though, that foreign language was not exactly a priority during the Cultural Revolution. My PhD friend is the same age, and doesn't know the difference between Japanese and Korean characters.

. . . including Chinese people !! No way. Part of the Japanese writing and Korean writing came from the Chinese. I'm not kidding - they don't recognize the Japanese Hirakana and Katakana alphabets, the Korean characters are totally different. Randy, the Chinese may not be able to read some of the Japanese characters or the modern Korean characters, but literate Chinese certainly know the difference between all three written languages. Now if you're saying that there are some illiterate Chinese people who can't tell, I can believe you as there are indeed some rural illiterate Chinese people in China who can't even read Chinese but Tony is right that all educated and literate Chinese people who can read and write Chinese can tell the difference between written Chinese, Japanese or Korean. Sorry, guy, but there is at least one Chinese PhD here in the office who can't - he doesn't do Pinyin, either (from near Shanghai). I doubt that my wife could, either.

I've heard about this 'early bird' denial for two years... but just don't see it consistently true... seems to be mentioned among the chinese SOs more than here on CFL. Our interview letter also says 7:15. Based upon other things I've read here, I assume this is just a generic time assigned to everyone? If not, I would think arriving at 7:00 and waiting in line (even a fast one) could cause one to get up to the 5th floor a little past 7:15....... Can someone please clarify? Thanks. Everyones letter says 7:15, when they get in the building they are given numbers and the numbers get called in order. They will give 2 or 3 different times (say 7:15, 7:45, and 8:15) on the interview letter. This simply determines which of the lines you get into outside. If you have a letter for that day, you will be admitted. However, they close up shop after awhile (say around 11) and don't admit anyone else. So if you need to run back to your hotel room for something you forgot, you have a little time. But it's better to let your SO go on in, and you can bring it to her on the fifth floor.

Your wife is not a legal permanent resident yet - she might have some trouble bringing an infant into the country with her. The passport would prove her citizenship.

Whew ! Way to go, Fred ! Congrats to all

. . . including Chinese people !! No way. Part of the Japanese writing and Korean writing came from the Chinese. I'm not kidding - they don't recognize the Japanese Hirakana and Katakana alphabets, the Korean characters are totally different.

. . . including Chinese people !!

It can also be less than what you would pay for a copayment here in the states. I paid about $11 combined for a doctor visit and drugs (antibiotics) last time I was there.

Good job! I'm glad it happened, and went smoothly. Congratulations!

On the 4th floor, there's a coffee shop between the 2 elevators.

If asked for proof of filing, show a receipt. Interesting; My wife's card expired on 2/28 and we are waiting for the new one. She is working as a teacher's aid and is currently in a "volunteer" status as we await the arrival of the new card. Question: All she needs to do is to show her recipt for the new card to get back on the payroll? She needs to supply whatever documentation the school district requires, but yes, she could work now without any repercussions from the USCIS.

Wear the jeans.

Apply for a new one now, and don't worry about it.

There are a few who pop in and post once in a while - amber (username awch), kimnjake (like tywy said), beijingjenny, and jgrier are 4 that come to mind. If you click on the 'Members' button, and click on their member name, you can find posts they've made from there (but watch out - jgrier's can be a little raunchy) But, yes - all the regular posters are American males (with a couple of Chinese males).

. . . and to take down your Christmas decorations. AP? Are you referring to Lee's avatar?

. . . and to take down your Christmas decorations. AP?

Hey Don I'll put you up for a night if you don't mind crawling out there and washing the windows... Just remember that rooftops grow . . .

Quit killing weeds and mowed the lawn for the first time today. No garden for us.

It may be frowned upon at AOS time - don't do it. No Way Will I DO It Like That!!! This is what the woman/friend is doing in order to save money. I couldn't believe it but she studied the rules and jokingly said I must have too much money, since I told her in my case if the CR1/2 package didn't come, I would bring her back from China and file for everything here and forget the CR process. Anyway she is bored and home bound waiting. I guess his home business is not doing so good, but she seems happy. She helps him at home on the net with orders from his web site. She just talks like skipping the 2 year is fine and going strait for the 10 year. They married after I did and got to the states quicker than us, so I figured maybe they know what their doing. I don't know. Maybe I better advise them, but money may be tight for them. Of course she could get out and go to work if she had the permit. Wish her luck, and let us know how it turns out! Yes, she is legal as long as she files before the 2 year visa is up. But the question is how the IO will react at the AOS interview. I don't know that we've heard from anyone who has actually tried it.

It may be frowned upon at AOS time - don't do it.

I misunderstood - I was assuming that it was your son through a previous marriage, which is what the act they quoted appears to be about. If your husband is his natural father, I think all he needs is his birth certificate - not the certificate of citizenship. If he was born in China, however, the certificate of citizenship may come in handy. Maybe someone else can sort this out better than I did.

If YOU are a citizen, and your son is under 18, then "upon taking the subscribing before a member of the Service within the United States to the oath of allegiance required by this Act of applicant for naturalization", he becomes a citizen also. In other words, his citizenship would "derive" from yours, but not from your husbands .

From Non-immigrant visa for a spouse Dept of State website.