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Good Point Mark, Now there is even more of a reason to check in than to prove you were there for the immigration office.

and again... Where do I get help if i need it? http://uscis.gov/graphics/citizenship/abou...to%20Get%20Help shhhh...Here's our little secret, since your our friend and we like you. ***TIP: As an immigrant you should be aware that dishonest people have made websites that look like government websites to confuse you and take advantage of you. Remember that http://www.uscis.gov is the official website of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Thanks for revalidating my point about having to look elsewhere than the source for answers. The two websites I have listed in the links in my signature have the entire proccess laid out in a simple, easy to read procedure. Both of the links have everything you need in an easy to explain and legible format. No babbling over anyones heads to make the proccess sound more complicated than it really is. It's really not that difficult and complicated to get the visa. The goverment only presents it that way. Throw in a little intimidation, spread the information required to assist the user in the paperwork all over the place, and constantly remind people not to screw up and see what happens. There not really helpful at all. They make us want to feel sorry for them. they make it all difficult for themselves. take a look at the 2 links and then take a look at USCIS.gov . you'll see what I mean. The goverment should have a step by step template or a checklist. 1. 130 to CSC 2. wait for the NOA1 3. Send the NOA1 with the 129F to Chi town Note: while we are doing this, you can save time by having the next items ready. Like this one... http://www.immigrationlinks.com/news/newshints78.htm So easy. Think about it. We have the whole process laid out in our timelines. Look around on USCIS for anything in this order. Can't be found because it doesn't exisist. Why not? The State department site is the same way. Both sites have out of date data on them. They're are inconsistancies between real life and the documentation. The organization of the material is terrible. It takes people like us to show them the best way. They know we are here....Ni hao? They can't know how to do it better, until they see it from our side of the fence. We should be working together to improve the process and make it better for both of us, instead of Us vs. Them. Take a Pro-active approach vs a Re-active approach. For example I noticed right away in the process about the Notarization and Single Status. How many signatures are required? If you can find it...USCIS says 3. Wrong!!! They left one out. The county clerks office needs to validate the 1st notary. Both notary's have to be from the same county. Try finding that info at .gov . this is really cute: What does Caveat Emptor! mean? http://uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/forminfo.htm Caveat Emptor! Many non-governmental websites offer Immigration forms. Some will allow you to download them for a fee. These sites are not affiliated with USCIS, and these sites may not have the latest official versions of forms. In some circumstances, use of older forms may result in your application or petition being denied or delayed. Changes made to forms are always recorded under What's New in Forms and reflected on the Form Entry Page for that form. They think they know about "the other sites". (Like this one.) Sorry to say i think that "those other sites" are where we need to go, to understand what your site is trying to tell us. Where's thier bulletin board? everyone else has one. Look at microsoft.com, users share information. but not at USCIS.gov, They even come out and say they don't support or recommend it. (In an indirect way.) Here's the intimidation and "don't screw up sentence again." "don't screw up, don't screw up, don't screw up...." In some circumstances, use of older forms may result in your application or petition being denied or delayed. -- Really? Really? Really? Geez thanks, because i'm too stupid to think that if I did it the wrong way, it would be a "bad" thing for me. They say it over and over. Click the link for "Visa Services" on the USCIS. gov website. Do it Please! http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/index.htm the link takes you to a redirect to the DOS site, but the link is broken. Dough Bart!!! Have to go to the "other site" to get my docs. thanks again USCIS. I see your links bashing the Chinese and us mail order husbands works good though. You guys are good. really.

Bahan, Congrats man I can send you some information on the tradition. Learn these imoprtant words, you can only say them on your wedding day and the wife will think your a stud. Say this through the doors when you are giving her brides maids, candy, lucky money and cigarettes. "Wo Yao Chi Lao Po" You won't have a clue dude, just play along and have fun. he he I remember the other thread now. I got married the day after you.

I am cornholio. No TP for my bung hole. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/6883/beavis.gif

Just the other day Lao Po busted out the word "Parchment" on me? She said... :what "Parchment" do I need to bring? I said said :Huh? Parchment? What the...? She said :"Paperwork" I said :"Bu Dong"

Why Isn't the Green Card Green? http://uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/history/...icles/Green.htm What we know as a "green card" came in a variety of different colors at different times in its history. We still refer to them as "green cards" for the same reason dismissal notices are called "pink slips," sensationalized news is called "yellow journalism," and intended distractions are called "red herrings." In each case, an idea was originally associated with an actual item of the respective color. A Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) alien living in the United States may carry a card that is not green, but refers to it as a "green card." The alien does so because the card bestows benefits, and those benefits came into being at a time when the card was actually green. Historical Background The green card is formally known as the Alien Registration Receipt Card, Form I-151 or I-551. The first receipt cards were Form AR-3 (printed on white paper), and were the product of the Alien Registration Act of 1940. Designed as a national defense measure, the Act required all aliens (non-U.S. citizens) within the United States to register with the U.S. Government.

You thought that one page was something to read? That's not all. I see that the ".gov" site was last updated with this "news" on 12/06/04. Only 1 month ago. I wonder if it was to take information out or to put it in? Since this was recently updated does this mean that the goverment still takes this veiw point torwards us and our spouces? This almost appears to be racial descrimination to me. Isn't that against the law? Thanks to the nuckle head that provided us this report, so that we can see the truth about our goverment and immigration department. We all felt that the chinese were discriminated against before, here's proof from the horses mouth. The Chinese Immigrant Files http://uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/history/CHINESE.htm http://www.archives.gov/facilities/finding...mmigration.html Looks like either our wives are liying to us when they say "I love you", we're all too stupid to not realize that our wives are all prostitutes. or the ones that aren't for sale and actually love us, we are so cruel to beat the living hell out of them. They are Chinese either, their Korean. Just passing on the facts guys. So which one of the Mark's and Jason's is it on this board is beating the crap out of your Korean "wanna be Chinese" prostitute wife? That's what I want to know. According to the report this problem is growing at an alarming rate and our hero's in Washington are out to save the prostituse and arrest us wife beaters. stop it now guys, there on to us. i'm not going to hang with you guys no more and I'm filing for devirce. Carl, You'll want to be sitting down for this. Last Modified 12/08/2004 http://uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/repsstud...ies/Mobrept.htm From their list of references used to write the report... 1997 "Bought and Sold." 1994 "Mail-Order Brides: Women for Sale." 1994 "Mail Order Bride: Gilded Prostitution and the Legal Response." 1997 "AF ISO WM: How Many Mail-Order Brides?" There is no bias in the report though, if we felt like there was bias torwards Chinese-American marraiges, they didn't mean it I'm sure. Written 1999 http://uscis.gov/graphics/publicaffairs/ne...srels/bride.htm Funny how all these links are under the "About Us" section of the website. it's obviously all "About them" isn't it? The full report to congress http://uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/repsstud...obrept_full.pdf Reports and Studies http://uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/repsstudies/ This problem has been escalated all the way to the top. From the State department http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2003/ From the President of the United States http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/rpt/25017.htm There is actually a justifiable reason to make it so difficult to get a visa for our wives. Here's an excerpt from our President. Justification: The Government of North Korea is making no effort to address trafficking in persons. The Government of North Korea carries out widespread forced labor abuses within the country. Conditions in North Korea drive large numbers of Koreans to seek a way out of the country, putting them at risk of victimization by traffickers. Women who enter Northern China from North Korea may be sold as brides and forced into prostitution. Although other U.S. measures against North Korea are in place, the President’s determination indicates the strong U.S. disapproval of the North Korean (and Chinese*) Government’s failure to address trafficking in persons. Appearantly we don't realize that our wives are NOT Chinese either, there really Koreans pretending they are Chinese. Glad to see all these un-bias books about the subject being posted to prevent the prostitution ring that is being run here by CFL. Wait! That means Don's a Pimp, no way. That's awsome! Does that make our president the leader of the KKK? Khinese Klux Klan. hmmm ... The guys upstairs are all black and white. Just like the way the report is written. I have never felt so disappointed about our leadership before. I have always defended the president, but he is cleariy trying to pick fights with other countrys. I don't really give a rats ass about Korean woman going to China to make a better life for themselves. It's their freedom of choice if they choose to do that. Stay out of there damn business. Now your crossing the line and included trashing me and my wife. I can't support those ideals anymore. Sorry to get sort of political but geez, can you make your intentions to attack korea any more obvious? This is the only justification for Sanctions against Korea? That's pathetic. Impact of Sanctions: The United States does not provide direct assistance to North Korea. The United States provides food aid for North Korea through the United Nations World Food Program. The World Food Program has received and distributed $650 million in food aid from the United States. The United States has provided more than half of the World Food Program’s food aid to North Korea since 1995. Food insecurity is an ongoing problem in North Korea and the population remains vulnerable to malnourishment, disease, and starvation. The food aid provided by the United States helps to alleviate the desperate situation in North Korea. This assistance to North Korea is purely humanitarian, and the sanctions against North Korea will not adversely impact food aid. (I like the line at the end, and oh our sanctions won't hurt them anyway. then what is the point behind the sanction? Breeding hatred?) This stuff is posted by our own goverment officials on USCIS and State Department websites. 1st class all the way. yes sir... Disclaimer: This is a very serious issue, i just tried to add a little humor to it. * - I included the unsaid word "and Chinese" for them.

I think I have some of thoes in the refrige from the mid 80's Dude no way! I'll trade you my Mickey Mantle rookie card for it.

RRRRRRRRRRRRRright Need a fairly long tongue or a very short arm. Dough! Long toung? Short arm? You didn't just say what I thought you just said did you? Cheeto's !!! oh my god, my Cheetos, where are they? Medic!!!! We need some cheetos over here!!!!

http://uscis.gov/graphics/publicaffairs/fa...eets/affaqa.htm Instead of the 864, you already filed the 134. So you should be ok then. maybe. The answer in the FAQ isn't concise. Maybe we can find it in the FUAQ "Frequently Unanswered Questions" Go FUAQ a DUCK MARK. Ha ha 12. Are affidavits of support required for persons other than immigrants? Currently, some aliens entering the United States temporarily, particularly students and parolees, may be required to have affidavits of support filed on their behalf. These situations are not affected by the new legally enforceable affidavit of support requirements. Sponsors of aliens who do not fall within the definition of Section 213A will continue to use the I-134 affidavit of support. Refugees are not subject to the new affidavit of support requirement.

TYWY, They wrote that 40 quarters is equal to 5 years. It's in the article. I actually took the time to do the math too. My sillyness again sorry. Thats funny, did you use a calculator? i ran out out of fingers.

TYWY, They wrote that 40 quarters is equal to 5 years. It's in the article. I actually took the time to do the math too. My sillyness again sorry.

Mark, That's my point exactly. Thankyou. Seems like we are all so "stupid" we need to be told in the documentation "don't screw up or you'll get rejected" over and over again. Instead of writing the procedure with the idea that the individuals (Their Customers) have either a. Never had to file immigration paperwork before. or b. English is their second language. I think that if they would take the time to spot check themselves, they could see why we seem like morons to them. Put the shoe on the other foot. There are many bulletin boards for us "stupid people" to go to for reference. Who is the customer? Immigration service? They service us or do we service them? They have all the authority and leverage. What can anyone say about it? Just continue to look like morons. I they fail to do their jobs correctly or in a timely manor can we fire them? Or hire another Immigration service? What is there motivation to perform at a higher level with no competition to push them to do a better job. Those terrorists were going to get the job done no matter what. I don't hold 911 solely to blame on the immigration service or George bush. The immigration service and George Bush didn't attack us. Duh! the terrorists did. I have thought about writing them a long letter to point out all the holes in the paperwork and questions about the process. If the immigration service, were run as a business, I think they would be out of business. Just now knocking out the back log? I was looking at a bunch of pre 911 timelines. I got sick feeling. Hang George Bush and the Immigration service responsible for not protecting us? Be real. just like they felt the need to protect us from Alex's wife too. When it comes to Federal documentation and paperwork, problems are so easy to blame on the stupid people. Yea and who can hold them accountable to do their job? We the people? Sure uh huh. Funny how when the whole Chad issue came about 4 years ago, there was a sudden outbreak of stupid people in Florida too. Now that I am understanding this process better now, the more I see areas for improvement. Just a little disappointed that for as long as immigration has been in "business". We are seeing all these reoccurring problems. When we and our wives show up for the interview in GZ, they SHOULD already know before they meet the person they are interviewing, if they are secure or not to be granted the visa. I think the interview SHOULD be the last line of defense, not the 1st. I don't think it's right to be so worried about having to be with our loved ones for the interview. Or that we should feel "lucky" that we were granted the visa. Immigration matters are such a concern there should be no luck involved at all. I need to believe that a VO from GZ will be able to single handedly be able to detect when they are being lied to, who the terrorists are, or determine which are fraudulent marriages for the purpose of coming to the US because of a 15 minute interview? What about the last freakin' 1yr or 2 that just passed because we were waiting on them? It counts for nothing? wait all that time only to get rejected over a 15minute interview is ridiculous. News: The criminals, frauds and liars all practice crimes, frauds and lying. Only Boss Hog and Rosco P. Coaltrain could be that good. They almost got away with the crime boss, but we stopped them in the last 15 minutes of the 1 to 2 years of the process. Good job, go get em' flash there is something wrong with that.

Cool, at least I know that I wasn't the only one P.O.'d after reading it. They are clearly making a statement in the article against Asian American couples, but at the same time are saying that if it implied that they seemed racist in the article, they didn't mean it. Then they went a step further and put some #'s on the board. They had to filter the stats down to get the percentages to seem significant, when all the #'s actually represent are percentages of filtered down #'s. In the whole article see how many references to marriages with Chinese woman there are. 1 reference out of the total # of 96,000. They pointed out, (in an indirect way) they found no significant evidence of fraud. Especially no evidence of fraudulent marriages with Chinese women. We all know that frauds and liars are out there. No denying it. Just wonder how bad the #'s really are. this report is garbage, but makes a big statement. The government has such a big problem with fraudulent Asian American and Euro-American couples that we need to launch an investigation about it and get the word out to "stop the frauds." then after it's all said and done what was the conclusion vs. the facts from the study? Conclusion: We have a problem with frauds vs. The facts: a very very small problem. Stuff like this is what really bugs me. I confess, before I ever went to China I had sort of a negative image in my head about it. (not too negative.) I saw sneaker ads on 60 minutes, talk about how awful Communism is, "Red China" and the arms race, baby killers, a 3rd world society and all sorts of jokes about Chinese. Talking with old folks about China isn't too great either. "Oh you know what HSBC means...? Hong Kong Shanghai Bank of China that's what. they're taking away our jobs and now our banks too. I expected to feel prejudice against when I got there. After the 1st two weeks of traveling to Shanghai for work. all that non-sense was erased. I was made to feel welcome and everyone I met was friendly. The term Shanghaied in Shanghai is a term to describe the way that things were. it is certainly not that way anymore. Even when I go to visit my mother in law "deeper into Red China". I see that the standard of living, the economy and culture are totally different from America, even more more less westernized the further away from the city I go. What stands out the most to me is the people. They aren't much different than we are. They live without all the fancy material items and luxuries most Americans would consider a necessity, but they compensate for it by building closer bonds with friends and family members. At my mother in laws neighborhood, everybody knows each other. Daddy goes out and hangs with his pals at the park. People are out and about after dark, socializing with each other. Weird....? The Chinese may be taking away our jobs and growing quickly economically. Now there's "another problem", one of them has taken away my heart too. I just tell her to be careful with it till she gets here. Seems that most negative idea's and comments come from people that have never been to China. I have not talked to one person yet that has come back from China and not enjoyed their stay. The people make all the difference, learning the language better only increases the fun. Our government doesn't need to be posting crap like that up on the internet to justify their employment. Very nice ".gov." Thanks bashing other countries and the minority of us fellas that have loved ones overseas so you can justify your jobs. That's why I get mad when I read story's like Alex's. Getting rejected to keep their job security in tack, for the sake of the loved ones they keep apart. that sucks. we are at there mercy. I even worry about if my comments might come back to haunt me. I feel a whole lot better after getting that off my chest now though.

Then does that make me a "shop at home husband." Nice term for the "Neaderthals" that wrote the report. http://uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/repsstud...ies/Mobappa.htm Here's what I got out of appendix A of this report... The people that wrote this report were against marraiges of Americans with Asian women. Then when it came time to back up statements with hard evidence, how many fruadulant marraiges of Chinese women married to American men did they find? Out of 96,033 cases in 1994 they found 0 fraudulant cases of marriage with Chinese women? At least the way I read it...

What's the score now anyway? Jason's 9 vs. Mark's 10 and Mark come on dude. It's cheating to change Jason's's's's name to keep the lead for the Mark's's's's.

I looked high and low, everywhere to try and see if I could figure out the what the heck they were talking about on the 864 when they mentioned (must fill in SSN or "A"-number here). My wife only has a phone #, so I filled in NA. I thought I should go back and actually make sure it was nothing to be worried about, since I wasn't 100% sure. I also saw a reference to the "A-number" in visajourney.com, couldn't find the definition there either. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...php?pg=assembly 3. Provide both the receipt notice number and the "A"-Number as an identifier, if they are available. I did eventually find the word that the "A" refers to on the USCIS website. Not where I would expect to see it however. Having been an Ex-goverment employee myself, I thought I'd dig a little deeper over some things that I just assumed, vs. what was actually documented. I know the "E" in the term "E-filing" , is a no brainer, but is it documented? If you didn't know what the "E" already stood for and using the USCIS website as your only source for information, how easily can you find the actual definition of the letter "E". Just to make this fun and prove a point (whatever my point is?) Lets play a game. You have 15 minutes to find the actual word in the USCIS website that the letter "E" refers to. If you happen to already know the mystery word, try to actually find it printed out in the site. Go ahead and do a word search for it and look in the glossary too. Hope that helps. Then after that's done, look for the word that the letter "A" stands for actually printed out. You have another 15 minutes. (The document "burden time" on the I-865 is only 15 minutes.) Keep in mind two points, while searching. www.uscis.gov 1. Attention to detail. 2. High School English class. Rule #1 when using acronyms. Use the actual word when making reference to the acronym, then use the acronym freely through the rest of the doc. I hope I'm not the only one that got stuck, given the "rules". Don't give it away if you found it. Keep it interesting for those people behind you. Here's another thing pretaining to the website and the 864. The document is a press release from 1997, the year is now 2005. How many years is "40 quarters of work" equal to? It's not what you think. It's debateable. Find the goverments answer in the paragragh following the statement "40 quarters of work".http://uscis.gov/graphics/publicaffairs/ne.../affsupport.htm The term "deeming", do you know what it means? I'm still trying to get over the fact that the "fillable" DS230 is still up at the website with no word to anyone except for me and Bahan that only the original that comes in the mail can be used. let it go Doug....just let it go.... Forget that! Even from the other sting about the ADDECO fasteners where do they go, how many? The office that mails the paper work doesn't give conscise answers, they only say "don't screw up." So when it comes time for the interview where all doing circles hope that we didn't "screw it up."

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...php?pg=assembly http://uscis.gov/graphics/fieldoffices/scn...nal/index.htm#H

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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Qua.../ci14116972.htm Hello from the Middle Atlantic! Us Californians know something the rest of the US doesn't. When the "big one" hits. VA will be the 1st state to slide into the ocean. Only CA will be left above water. That's why it's so expensive to live out here. If everybody could afford to live in CA, everybody would. Like puh, helllloooo. Wait till Lao Po gets here, they'll be reporting 5's and 6's on the richter scales daily. haha NOT!!! Go Big or Go Home!!! http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/shake/ca/index.html

Hey that's interesting. I can't believe I missed this post the 1st time around. thanks for sharing. I asked my uncle about the green coke, he said it's true. he know's everything so there's no debating it. next thing you'll tell us is the pope is catholic , ya right! what....ever! I only thought of licking my elbow, it would hurt too much trying, so I gave up before I started. purty smart huh?

Sounds to me like the person that was interviewing your fiancee was having a bad hair day or had a wild hair up there u know ware. The bad part about it is, they knew before the interview that your fiancee would be rejected. Maybe they just needed more time to determine the whereabouts of her ex. Who knows? There was nothing your fiancee could have done to change anything. She walked right into the interview not knowing what she was about to hear. She could have busted out into a break dance and rolled out 20 pictures of you from her purse...anything. They already knew she would be denided, but made her show up anyway. Rude. As for the "clues", I interpit it as no news is good news. maybe the office just needed a few more days and wasn't ready yet. Your fault or there fault is irrelivant now, but it sure would be nice to know the truth. All of the requested evidence was really stretching it. Simon says get me a picture of your ex-husband. Simon says do it with todays paper, stop! Simon didn't say stop. rejected! It seems that silly to me. I think you'll be fine now. Way to keep your cool through this whole ordeal. Good luck man. Tell her to give em' hell. http://members.tripod.com/~rwc10/catblack.gif

Maybe it's just new for me and Bahan. We're special like that. I noticed some other comments about people having thier wife/fiancee mail papers to GZ. Seemed odd to me, because I'm not going about the process like the majority seems to be. (nothing new, lost and going in the wrong direction is typical for me. just got used to it at an early age.) There is now a handful of us married guys that got our 130's approved through CSC quicker than the 129's through Chicago. This CR-1 process is new to many of us that went K3. This strange phenomina occurred last July as part of the back log reduction act. There were no visa papers moving slower than a 130 through CSC last spring, now it's almost as fast as the 129's through VT. The logs that were backed up, are moving through the bowels of the visa process freely now. ahhh.... :D

cool.