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My wife's cousin want's to find an American man and eventually move to the U.S. to live with him. My wife indicated that some of her friends have used Match.com and Date.com???? I understand that those sites cost around 15 or so a month. What other sites are there for this type of situation. Reliability is a question because one of my wife's friends used a few sites where she was catfished multiple times....

I was wondering if finding your future wife on POF dating site was going to be a potential issue in the CR-1 process? This was a free dating site. http://www.pof.com/

Hey all, First of all, THIS POST IS NOT FOR ME. There, now that that is out of the way, I am living in China and my wife has a female friend who is 31 years old. She has been very unlucky in love and is convinced she is too old to ever find a husband now. I try to keep telling her this is just the Chinese way of thinking and to many foreign men, she would be a hot commodity. The problem is, I'm not really sure where or how she could go about meeting a foreign guy. We live in a part of China where not many foreigners are around, and I don't know how she'd go about meeting a guy online. Can you guys help me out and help this tenderheart finally have some luck in love? Thanks all.

My wife had used a marriage company that led to our meeting. Now that we are married and have started the visa process, her contact person with the company has given her the name of a company which helps procur visas. I know nothing of these companies. I would appreciate any information concerning them. Are they a rip-off or do they provide a valuable service at a reasonable price? The specific company in question is ¹«Ë¾½Ð· ( YU CHENG). Any information, in general about such companies as well if anyone knows something specific about this company would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Have any places she could get started as in asianfriendfinder, chinalove, or maybe just Yahoo messenger.

This is not for me since I am happily married. Good friend of mine who lives in SF asked me to check with you guys if you have encountered this dating agency. http://imMatched.com 347 5th Ave, suite 1108, New York, NY 10016. Tel: (212) 532- 0328 any comments are highly appreciated. if you rather send me a PM , pls feel free to do so . Many thanks .

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I thought some of the guys on this site should know. If your using a Match Making website to find a Chinese wife, then please read this post before filing your visa. No I did not get scammed or cheated. I'm currently living in Beijing and happily married to my Chinese wife for the past two years. So why am I complaining then? My wife was a translator for a company called China Love and handled translating the letters from the American clients and Chinese women. On average the Chinese women on the site never write a single word to their prospective love in the US. All of its completely made up by the translators. Now, I know there are many men who had real corespondents with their Chinese loved one, and used a match making service. They are the lucky ones, and believe me they are a minority. The Chinese women who post on most of these websites are paying a lot of money to find a foreign husband. Some of them can speak English a little bit. Many cannot speak at all. Even if they are able to write a letter in English most don't because they really don't want to be bothered with all the trouble it would take to read some guy's email. They think because they are paying a huge fee then the translators should do it, and not bother them with the details. The match making websites usually keep the women up to date on how many guys are interested in them, and which one seem willing to come to China. Each translator get a bonus for every guy who comes to China, and another bonus if they file a visa. Its easier to get a bonus when the guy comes to China since that isn't very demanding. The visa is tough since the denial rate is high for K-1. My wife really hated that job, and it was her first job out of college. She only stayed for about six months, and had already quite by the time we were together. Although, while we were taking to each other online, she often complained about her job. She did have to do some translating since some of the women wanted to read emails from the most promising bachelors. My wife had a hard time with many of the guy's disgusting letters. I never saw them myself, but my wife would often ask me things like, "what does, 'I want to put my roster in your box' mean?" Believe me that was the cleanest example I can remember. I don't mean to pick on anyone, but I think many of you guys who use these websites should be warned. That doesn't mean everyone in China is trying to scam you, but you will need to use common sense. What was sad was the Match Making service charged something like $25 for every 10 email. That would be five sent and five received. There was no incentive for the company to allow the guys to directly contact the women. So if you have never talked other than on a website watch out. I'm not sure if this waring will help anyone, but it seems the stress of getting a loved one to the US blinds them from the reality that they are not compatible and their relationship was built on lies and misinformation. I'm not saying that everyone should stop using them, but you should consider the reality that this may be happening to you. Don't be like many of the guy I've been reading on this site who have had their hearts broken (and wallets) because of these websites. Actually in a number of government reports, mail order bride and overseas match making websites make up the majority of visa fraud cases. If you are wondering why the Guangzhou embassy treat US citizens and their loved one's like suspected criminals now you know who to thank.

Here's an article recently published about the dating scene in China. For me, it contains lots of info that corroborates ideas I've heard on CFL about men, women, and relationships, Chinese-style. http://www.slate.com/id/2244183/

China's High Rollers $44,000 for a subscription to the service!! Also another thing I was wondering about was the gender imbalance facing China today. Westerners are coming there and taking women away from chinese men, this isnt helping their problem at all.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/200...ated.daters.cnn

I recieved this from a friend of mine today who is actively pursing an Internet dating relationship now. He has yet to meet his new found hearthrob. One day he may. It has some really good tips in it. I do not know if I am posting this in the right topic if not please feel free to move to the proper location. Tips? NEVER SEND MONEY to anyone you only know from the internet. Some chinese ladies will want financial support, even before you meet! Yes, things are tough there....but you'll NEVER know if the lady is serious if money is involved. I've read TOO many reports of men supporting women in china for long periods of time only to have the relationship fall apart, at the least. NEVER SEND MONEY. Be careful about sending money even after you've met the lady. You need to realize that in most of China, incomes are low...maybe $100-$200 a month. There's no reason to enter into a relationship where you are supporting a woman while she waits for a visa. The US Fiancee or Married visa takes 10-12 months, currently, IF YOU DO NOT SCREW UP THE PAPERWORK and there are no problems. DO NOT MARRY THE LADY IN CHINA! Meet her, develop a relationship, file for a FIANCEE VISA> IT is safer for you! When she arrives in the US, you still have several months before you NEED to marry, or she should return to China. Many chinese ladies are not happy here, due to the major differences in weather, culture....FOOD. If for some reason the girl does not pass the interview for the visa, you are 'off the hook'/ I'm afraid some chinese ladies in this situation tend to shape the truth....tell you what you want to hear. They may not tell you they've applied for a visa before, had other US boyfriends, etc. If you are in contact with a chinese lady you met on the internet, DEMAND to see her face on a webcam!!! Many online romances are conducted by translator/wedding brokers. You may chat or recieve emails for MONTHS from somebody other than the lady. You may think you've developed a relationship, and your lady 'speaks english'. You go to china, meet her...alas...her english is bad, or worse. You've been romancing a 'paid translator'. This is not a scam in itself....but you should be aware of it. You may be presented with a large bill if you marry the girl. Some of the 'brokers' get a large bonus if the girl marries/ Its not uncommon for these 'brokers' to threaten physical harm to you or the girl if they aren't paid. Don't get involved! There are plenty of girls who speak some english. Still....ask to see her on cam! Verify she is chatting with you. You can call china cheaply. Call her. You want to verify WHO you are talking to. You need to the level your girl speaks english at....not the translator! Send a small gift to verify the address she gives you. Flowers are cheap in china. Do not talk romantically with these ladies if you do not have the means to go to china to visit them. Some of the provinces are remote, and hard to get to. They have good transportation there, but much is impossible to use if you do not speak chinese. Meet and spend time with her family. They may or may not be supportive. Be polite. Research local and generic customs before you go there. Just because the incomes may be low, don't think that they aren't dignified, and proud of what they own. You'll probably not be expected to 'throw money around'....with the exception of taking her family out for at least one formal dinner. Don't worry.....outside of Hong Kong, and some big cities......it's cheap. One other tip. Check the email headers. If the emails aren't coming from where they should be....the emails may be coming through a transltator, or a rare scammer.

For any of you that met your wife though blossoms, I am curious if your wife or girlfriend can tell me if Blossoms was free for them, and if there is a different website for their registration, or is the registration the same from blossoms.com Please advise. Tim

Her's a link to the China Daily forum. There are some hilarious postings by a member named Chinadragon. http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.ph...&tid=611465

I posted the following on another site and got an opinion but would like to see if anyone has anything different to say. I met my girl on a website called chineselovelinks.com. I sent a message to Chineselovelinks asking if they were an IMB after not being able to find any info on their website. Below is their response. The section quoted above can be seen in the image attachment. It appears to me that they do not fall under the act but I want to be 100% sure when I file my 129F. Any comments, suggestions or direction would be appreciated. Thank you, Max http://oldpyro.com/k1/att.jpg

I met my SO back in Sept 06, daily e-mail/weekly phone calls for 4 months, traveled to China Jan 07 (got engaged) applied for K-1 in Feb 07 and write daily, webcam, many times a week. Here's my question. Should my SO still be on 2 date sites (cherryblossoms.com and chnlove.com)? Should I be hearing incoming webcam chat notification notices while we are chatting at midnight or 2 am China time? I'm a nice guy, open-minded, don't want to crowd her BUT, I discontinued my subscription to bloosoms.com as soon as I got engaged. Should I say something and how do I not offend? I truly do love this girl and want to marry her but Jeez, I went to China to find loyal and someone that just wants me. I could dated many girls here in South Florida that each have 5 boyfriends!!!! I am hoping I am just loking into this too deeply? Thank you.

Hello all, My Laopao has a friend in Guangzhou who is looking for an online matchmaking service. I was wondering if anyone could give good advise on this. Thanks. scott

Interesting Chinese Marriage Brokers Warning On Marriage Brokers As aye, Jim

Out of curiosity, is there any data here on CFL, anecdotal or not, that shows the success rate of marriages (say, 5 years are more) of those who met via the Internet as opposed to those who met through more traditional dating channels (i.e., school, work assignments, vacations, etc.)? As aye, Jim

I just want to know, because I don't. The reason I'd come on here was to get some idea of the time frames within which I'd expect to be able to complete a spousal visa. Send me emails to my box at: <removed by moderator> It is generally not a good idea to discose your personal e-mail address on a public board - frank1538

I was reading about the "International Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2005" and it seems that its effective date is March 6, 2006. If I am correct (not very often), it is delaying K-1 visa applications with additional checks. Even to those already approved. It seems that at least some of the applications are being returned to the center that originally approved them if that approval date was after March 6. Has anybody heard anything about this and its effect?

Then does that make me a "shop at home husband." Nice term for the "Neaderthals" that wrote the report. http://uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/repsstud...ies/Mobappa.htm Here's what I got out of appendix A of this report... The people that wrote this report were against marraiges of Americans with Asian women. Then when it came time to back up statements with hard evidence, how many fruadulant marraiges of Chinese women married to American men did they find? Out of 96,033 cases in 1994 they found 0 fraudulant cases of marriage with Chinese women? At least the way I read it...

http://www.boston.com/yourlife/relationshi...orld_of_science Dating tips from the world of science By Agnieszka Biskup, Globe Columnist, 8/19/2003 Are you unhappy with your love life? Do you ever wonder who your perfect mate should be? Want some good advice, but don't know where to turn? Skip the television psychic, and try talking to some scientists instead. Many researchers wonder about the same questions, and, like your mother, have a few ideas of their own on whom you should be dating and why. Much of this scientific advice is offered from an evolutionary perspective: The emphasis is on propagating the species rather than romantic fulfillment. Who knew your grandchild-craving Mom was a card-carrying Darwinian? But for those of you who want to hook up to pass on your genes, here are some dating and mating tips from the world of science. 1) Try to appear symmetrical. Various studies throughout the years have shown that both men and women prefer symmetrical faces. A hand growing out of the ear is unattractive to both sexes -- unless, perhaps, there is another hand growing out of the other ear as well. Having symmetrical features, where the left side of the face closely mirrors the right and vice versa, appears to indicate good health and vigor, meaning you are sure to be boffo baby-making material. 2) Women, keep up that all important waist-to-hip ratio of 0.7, giving you that fine, hourglass figure. According to researchers, a waist smaller than your hips drives men wild. If at all possible, try to be young and attractive, too. Small noses, full lips, and high cheekbones all add to that youthful look, giving the impression you have tons of childbearing years ahead of you, or that you know a really good plastic surgeon. 3) Men, attempt to appear capable of providing for your offspring. Having wads of cash or huge herds of cattle is the simplest way, but being a little older doesn't hurt either, since it might suggest you've attained a higher social status (and more cash or cattle). 4) Make sure your immune systems complement each other. One way women can tell this characteristic is by sniffing a potential mate. Odds are, if they're a good immune system match, she'll like his natural aroma. In 1995, Claus Wedekind (then at the University of Bern in Switzerland) asked female volunteers to smell unwashed T-shirts worn by different men. The women consistently preferred the scent of men whose immune systems were different from their own: Potential children from such a union will have a better chance of fighting off disease. Never underestimate the selling power of smell. 5) But, on the other hand, you don't want to be too different from your potential mate. Contrary to popular belief, opposites don't attract. Look for someone who resembles you -- or looks like dear old Mom or Dad, who should look like you anyway. Last year, David Perrett and his colleagues from the University of St Andrews in Scotland asked volunteers to rate the attractiveness of faces flashed on a computer screen. They found that men and women preferred faces that more closely resembled their own. Then the researchers morphed each subject's face onto a gender-reversed image. The positive ratings shot through the roof. According to the St Andrews team, wanting a mate that looks like you is driven by sexual imprinting, the tendency among animals to choose mates that look like their parents, the reasoning being that if your parents were able to have offspring, someone that looks like them should be able to have offspring, too. That might explain why many married couples look alike (but not why they dress alike). 6) Looking alike might not be enough, though. To be happy, you'll also need to be alike, researchers from Cornell University reported last month. Peter M. Buston and Stephen T. Emlen asked volunteers to rank 10 attributes they valued most in a potential mate, including wealth, status, and commitment to family. They then had the respondents rate themselves on the same characteristics. The researchers found that people who rated an attribute important in a partner also rated themselves highly on the same attribute. Their final piece of advice, so romantically put: "Individuals seeking stable long-term relationships should not seek the highest-quality partner available, but should simply look for partners who are similar to themselves." If this seems like too much to worry about, perhaps you should just let Mom pick out your mate after all. But give them a quick sniff, just to be sure: You can never be too careful about the immune system. Agnieszka Biskup can be reached at abiskup@globe.com.