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If you are there on a Sunday; check out the parks and malls on HK island. That's when the Filipino girls have the day off. wierd......

For laundry: Clothes are to be handwashed nightly. The little lady will teach you. "You no send clothes to hotel laundry, somebody might wear them." Remember; this is also a training session. Know the signs.

Depending on who your cell phone carrier is you may want to take it. One of my biggest fears in China is being seperated from my wife and not being able to find her in the crowd. I unlocked both of our phones before we left and since the wife went ahead of me she picked up GDMA pre paid sim cards for us. I know T-mobile and ATT phones work in China. I know the feeling. On my first trip we were out at a busy street market in GZ. My wife stepped to the side to use the phone after being paged and I lost sight of her. All I saw were people with black hair. You've gotten some good advice but I would go light on the tech gear and bathroom items. At best take some kleenex packets. Remember they do have stores there and at a better price. What they don't have is foot powder/spray. A money belt with enough $100 to cover you while you are there and to buy an air ticket home if needed is a safe bet. If you have a backpack, secure the zippers with snap swivels. Most thieves don't know how to unlock them. have fun

My wife said the dress is not that traditional (modern style) because they show too much leg. She also said the singer is from Singapore. She did like the song though.

One thing I've noticed in may travels to parks, zoos, temples ECT is the absence of powered equipment by the landscapers. All work seems to be done by hand with great care.

What bothers me about this is that the US continues to take an arrogant posture toward China; it wants to teach rather than learn. Sort of like having a visitor in your home trying to tell you how to raise your family. How do you know the new administration's tone hasn't changed and is still lecturing? Is this what is conveyed by the Chinese media or just your opinion? It's been widely reported in Chinese news that Chinese officials were extremely upset not only by US posturing on Human rights, but the fact they chose to visit Japan before visiting China. However, they chose NOT to let it get in the way of giving Hillary a warm reception. They are used to hearing the US rhetoric. It is my OPINION that the US is very unlikely to change it's posture toward China, and given the records of those who support the current president, US posturing will likely worsen rather than improve. Surely I hope it doesn't, but it's my opinion that it will. They shouldn't make an issue of Japan; after all a USC doesn't need a visa for a stay of 90 days or less.

We stayed at the Holiday Inn in Shanghai. The bed was soft.

Just an FYI. It took 45 days when my wife had it done in SF. She went in and picked it up since we are local. And yes, services to PRC citizens are in Chinese on the web. How long did your wife know before you did?

Insurance?

Well she's there now and it sounds like she'll be TRAINing it for the whole trip... At least I got her to agree to take ONLY soft sleepers...Guangdong-Hunan-Hainan-Yunnan-Hunan-Guangdong... B) No hard seat, country people trains where one of your seat mates my pass a bag of chicken feet to share with you? I went from GZ to Sanya. The trip across the water is interesting. Ah so you took the train boat across the strait and then the new line down the west coast of Hainan from Haikou to Sanya...We live on the east coast at Qionghai and that line is being built right now... B) Yes. Wife's best friend friend's brother knows the cop who works that train so we rode for free. They didn't bother to tell me about it until we were on the train. When I asked for the tickets and when we went around the gate and up to the platform I was told not to worry. I worried most of the trip. At the end of the line the cop took us to his cop friends and they let us through the gate. I guess that's the Chinese way.

Well she's there now and it sounds like she'll be TRAINing it for the whole trip... At least I got her to agree to take ONLY soft sleepers...Guangdong-Hunan-Hainan-Yunnan-Hunan-Guangdong... No hard seat, country people trains where one of your seat mates my pass a bag of chicken feet to share with you? B) I went from GZ to Sanya. The trip across the water is interesting.

Outside of the hop from HK to GZ the only thing I know about domestic tickets is my wife would get on the phone and an "agent" would then knock on the door. The purchase is made with "uncle Maos".

Try Kohuko Rose.

Don't tell the guy.

Check this out. The hotel link is on the home page. http://www.guangzhouairportonline.com/

"It should come as no surprise to those that spend even a little time reading in this forum, that Roger has little good to say about the country of China. " :jerry: :roller::roller: :D :D Happy New Year

The Rosedale and Landmark hotels are fine at about $50 - $60. The landmark has a great dim sum resturant and has it's own hot spring, so the water is always hot. Both are close to the metro.

One thing I let my wife know. "You can always return to China". For whatever reason. That should be the bottom line for all of us.

Maybe our CFL members can pool our resources and put together a private security force and go get them guys. Get a repo yatch at a good price with some surplus 50s. Make Roger the the captian, as he always wanted a sea adventure, and there you go.

What was said above. We have a new administration. I guess we will have to wait and see how the new policy developes. I can only say that in my China travels, both rual and in the cites, the people view the US as friend. I hope the new administration takes heed and makes an effort to improve life for those of us who have China ties.

My wife would carry her student ID & Costco card (Executive Member ) before she had a US one issued, passport stayed at home. In California there is no law that says you have to carry an ID, only while operating a motor vehicle.

You can always order a card in his name and send it to him.

It's time for me to renew my passport. While checking the DOS site, I see they have a passport card. Does anyone know what this is and used for? (is it worth the extra 20 bucks ) thanks

My wife cried after we were out of sight of her family. She was OK when we got to SFO though.

Might find something here: http://www.chinesemall.com/eldic.html But be sure to shop around. We use a Longman.