m-coon Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Does anybody know where and how to report visa violations?Where I work - Romanians are brought to the area to work. The problem is that they all come here under contract with one company - but violate their visa by taking other jobs - and shunt their responsibilies to the company that sponsored them.I would like to know where and how to report these violations - and also to know if anybody will do anything about it????? Thanks,Scott Link to comment
esun41 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 I am in restaurant management and know that there is illegals abound. My company sent out a memo a few months ago stating that management is only to verify that documents submitted to us in accordance with the I-9 requirements. We are not to investigate the authenticity of the document, only to verify the document matches what they present. My company used to have us call SSA to verify SSN's and if we continued to do that... we would never be staffed!!! Refusal rates were 4 out of every 5 we called in. Link to comment
Guest ShaQuaNew Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Though you might find it personally bothersome, it's likely that you will find great difficulty locating someone in government that will take the time to investigate. If you really have a burden about this, you might do your own detective work, getting their address, document information, and specific information regarding violations and report it to: http://www.cbp.gov/ Lacking specific information you can bet it will go no-where. Link to comment
m-coon Posted March 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 I am in restaurant management and know that there is illegals abound. My company sent out a memo a few months ago stating that management is only to verify that documents submitted to us in accordance with the I-9 requirements. We are not to investigate the authenticity of the document, only to verify the document matches what they present. My company used to have us call SSA to verify SSN's and if we continued to do that... we would never be staffed!!! Refusal rates were 4 out of every 5 we called in.199563[/snapback]These people have legal papers - the companies hiring them are stupid and do not realize that the visa they have only permits them to work for one designated employer!!! Therefore they cannot legally hire them.It is not that the documents are not authentic - they don't understand these people are not eligable to work for anybody else but the sponsoring employer!!! It is the type of visa that they have.And this is killing my company because they will not work for us as much since they discovered they can make more elsewhere - so they work the minimum for us and then work another 40 to 60 hours for a higher paying job - illegally...... I would like to stop this practice without involving the name of my company in reporting them - It would look better if the USA authorities investigate them and discover this for themself..... But I fear the uSA autorities think this is petty and will not investigate. Scott Link to comment
esun41 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 I am in restaurant management and know that there is illegals abound. My company sent out a memo a few months ago stating that management is only to verify that documents submitted to us in accordance with the I-9 requirements. We are not to investigate the authenticity of the document, only to verify the document matches what they present. My company used to have us call SSA to verify SSN's and if we continued to do that... we would never be staffed!!! Refusal rates were 4 out of every 5 we called in.199563[/snapback]These people have legal papers - the companies hiring them are stupid and do not realize that the visa they have only permits them to work for one designated employer!!! Therefore they cannot legally hire them.It is not that the documents are not authentic - they don't understand these people are not eligable to work for anybody else but the sponsoring employer!!! It is the type of visa that they have.And this is killing my company because they will not work for us as much since they discovered they can make more elsewhere - so they work the minimum for us and then work another 40 to 60 hours for a higher paying job - illegally...... I would like to stop this practice without involving the name of my company in reporting them - It would look better if the USA authorities investigate them and discover this for themself..... But I fear the uSA autorities think this is petty and will not investigate. Scott199568[/snapback]It may be a manpower issue. I have never seen anyone check any books in my 28 years of management. I was a District Manager for 3 of those years and HR for 2. Not one audit and I worked for a firm that was International in size. Link to comment
pkfops Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) Why do you want to make trouble for yourself? You have a woman to protect. Go live a happy life. Edited March 17, 2006 by pkfops (see edit history) Link to comment
tonado Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 http://www.vdare.com/mann/060220_reporting.htm Link to comment
m-coon Posted March 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Why do you want to make trouble for yourself? You have a woman to protect. Go live a happy life.199610[/snapback]This is greatly effecting the place where I work. I only want somebody to slap their hands and make them stop working other places - and do the job they were brought here to do by my company.....I'm not out to cause anybody trouble. Scott Link to comment
Guest ShaQuaNew Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Why do you want to make trouble for yourself? You have a woman to protect. Go live a happy life.199610[/snapback]This is greatly effecting the place where I work. I only want somebody to slap their hands and make them stop working other places - and do the job they were brought here to do by my company.....I'm not out to cause anybody trouble. Scott199615[/snapback]Having dealt with those that are in place to enforce immigration law, I want to repeat my earlier reply.... Though you might find it personally bothersome, it's likely that you will find great difficulty locating someone in government that will take the time to investigate. If you really have a burden about this, you might do your own detective work, getting their address, document information, and specific information regarding violations and report it to: http://www.cbp.gov/ There's a good deal of injustice going on in the US these days, and some feel a burden to fix the problem by being personally vigilant. I personally wouldn't try, but hey.... Link to comment
Trigg Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 I just have to ask. Why doesn't your company hire American workers?? There are plenty of them without jobs. I honestly have to say if they are hiring foreigners so they can get them at substandard wages--well then they got what the paid for! Link to comment
pkfops Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) Just remember,When the expiration date onyour wife's I94 has been met,she is in the country illegally. How would you like it if anoffice busy body reported her? She will do the AOS from a cell. If you mess with somebody'sincome and family, you will haveproblems beyond your control. Edited March 17, 2006 by pkfops (see edit history) Link to comment
skibum Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Just remember,When the expiration date onyour wife's I94 has been met,she is in the country illegally. How would you like it if anoffice busy body reported her? She will do the AOS from a cell. If you mess with somebody'sincome and family, you will haveproblems beyond your control.199632[/snapback]Thanks for your interest in a big problem. I can remember when Americans would be patriotic and do anything to help our country. Now all anyone thinks about is the profits they can make by using illegal labor. It would help the country greatly if all these "honest" Americans and companies would stop breaking the law and only hire legal workers. If they cannot do business legally, maybe they should not be in business. Link to comment
ameriken Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) Why do you want to make trouble for yourself? You have a woman to protect. Go live a happy life.199610[/snapback]This is greatly effecting the place where I work.199615[/snapback]I think you are right to report this. Illegal is illegal. Why do people suggest we turn a blind eye to the illegal immigration problems? Dont feel bad about making trouble, you are not making trouble. Illegal is illegal, wrong is wrong. You mentioned it is hurting your company. There is nothing wrong with protecting your employer. You are not messing with someone elses income, if it hurts your company and country, they are messing with YOUR income. You are supporting your country, your employer, and yourself, that is the right thing to do. If you want to do something, do something. As the saying goes, 'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ Edited March 17, 2006 by ameriken (see edit history) Link to comment
jemmyell Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Why do you want to make trouble for yourself? You have a woman to protect. Go live a happy life.199610[/snapback]good advice I think. -James Link to comment
esun41 Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Again... I state that this is a manpower issue... for every 1 that is removed... 100 will take the place in society. It is impossible to police the masses in my opinion. Fight the fights you can win or at least have a chance. The beast has gotten too fat!!! Link to comment
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