300 days since our interview

[tsap seui]

I started not to even post this garbage and to just get on with "our" lives but what the hell, I've been hanging out here for a bit and made some friends. I am not looking, and never was looking for sympathy. This is, just what it is. My fiancee cries her eyes out on the phone during our conversations, I just sit there with wet eyes and tell her to talk it out and to not hide her anger or sorrow as it will bite her in the ass later if she hides it now (PTSD). The last 10 months have been pure hell on my precious lil' rabbit but now the trial by fire is OVER baby!!

 

We have survived more stress than, hopefully, most of you will ever have to live through, and we are stronger than ever. It took both of us working together and talking many many untold hours on the phone to make it through this. I would never have known what this strong lady was made of and would never have known her so well, so quickly, without this awful experience we have been put through by the damned sorry american government.

 

Our bona fide relationship is REAL. I will be going to China in mid June to marry my wife and research school opportunities, and flipping houses.

 

We are okay and getting stronger each day now that the horror show has ended. I'll be moving over later this year, going to work, and in a year and a half filing a DCF.

 

Truly, our visa journey and our life togeter is just beginning. It's going to be an exciting adventure and our family is finally going to be together. Maybe in 2011 we'll return to america... if there is anything worthwhile left to return to. Or, maybe we'll wind up in Australia or New Zealand...if'n we decide to leave Chinatucky for awhile.

 

The following is what being super prepared, front loading your initial application, working your asses off to rehearse, writing Confressmen, the President, and almost 70 e-mails to GUZ can get for you.

 

We are honest people, have both never been in any trouble, and have a more bona fide relationship than any of those DOS workers in Guangzhou will ever have with their wife or husband.

 

This was in response to my 72nd e-mail to the DOS's Goobers in Guangzhou and was recieved 300 days after I was told at ACH by a lying two faced DOS VO that "in a month, month aand a half your fiancee should be getting a letter from us asking her to bring her passports back to the Consulate."

 

 

It's TOTALLY about LUCK boys and girls. It could have happened to anyone that you've seen who got a visa no matter how well prepared they tell you they were.

 

We would have been much better off to have been given a denial 10 months ago at our interview, instead the bastards chose to twist us in the wind for 10 months for this

 

I truly hope this never happens to any of you.

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------

The Consulate is unable to issue Ms. XXX an immigrant visa because,

according to the Immigration and Nationality Act, she is currently

ineligible. The Consulate has determined, based on her testimony,

documents, and any other evidence, that she does not have a bona fide relationship with the petitioner. The Consulate is preparing to return

this case to the USCIS for review and possible revocation. The

applicant will be informed by mail when the case file has been

transferred to USCIS. The USCIS office that first approved this

petition will contact the petitioner about how to appeal this decision.

----------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

 

 

Here is a glimpse of our story and our interview:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I went over 4 times in 9 months, getting to know each other and studying and rehearshing for the interview. In that nine months I was with her in China more that 3 months.

 

The goodbyes were hard during those 4 trips, but on the first 3 we always had hope and the interview to look forward to. That goodbye after the interview was a KILLER to both of us. It was much worse than when I left america twice to go to Vietnam.

 

I was told, at american citizen hour, it was going to be a quick, month, month and a half for them to make their decision...so we waited. Then as time went on we feared I'd visit, get on the plane to leave, get home and she'd get her letter to return to GUZ.

 

Tell you the truth, she doesn't want me to come over for another 3 week stay. She wants me to come over and either bring her to america, or to stay in China and get married...and stay in China.

 

Looking back, if we'd have known it was going to be this long, I'd have gone over and waited with her...and I'd recommend that to someone who got an administrative processing type blue slip, but, my dumb ass trusted the VO at ACH...boy do I feel stupid now. But ya know. you hit the 5 month mark and they touch your case, so you wait...then you hit the 6 month mark and they change you from administrative processing to administrative "review" so your hopes get up and think "it won't be long now"....it's now almost 2 months since that change to "review".

 

We talk twice a day (stopped the freakin' e-mails) for anywhere from 3 to 5 hours EVERYDAY. Our relationship has greatly grown in strength and understanding each other. We've been under more stress than most folks will ever have in their relationship, and we are surviving it very well.

 

I've used the time here to liquidate everything I could...turned in 2 2006 leased vehicles, sold my 2006 Harley, one of two houses, the second is on the market (now goed to settlement on June 9th, 2008), and moved into an apartment to wait this thing out. Sold everything but an old pickem-up truck, a couple of old cars, and my home renovation tools.

 

Hope it doesn't seem like I've given up ....merely preparing. I see the trend, and have been seeing what others were getting.

-------------------------------------------------------

 

The interviewm 10 months ago, with the dried up old prune of an american BITCH who has herself a position of power in the american government.

 

 

It was conducted by one of the most disgusting and disgraceful american women to ever walk this planet. Threated my fiancee and her 11 year old son like they were trash. But my lady kept her focus and didn't get rattled. That's a ploy the VO's will use so they can easily deny these women. We're certain she avoided a white slip cause she was too prepared and knew too much...so...they gave her this shit.

 

Questions: In a rapid fire style manner, with much anger and stressful comments. My fiancee knew all the answers in english (as well as the questions in english)...from answering 75 practice questions (in english) twice a day for over 3 months.

 

My fiancee and her son walked to the window...smiled, and together said said "Hello"..."Good morning". THe VO looked at them in disgust, scowled, and sneered at them...never responded with a "Good morning" or acknowledged that they were human beings.

 

 

 

1. Passports? Wouldn't even open my passport and handed it, and my certified/hand written evolution of relationship letter and new intent to marry statement RIGHT back.

 

2. Can you speak english?

 

3. Who helped you to apply for the K-1 visa?

 

4. How did you meet?

 

5. Date of first e-mail?

 

6. Dates of fiance's first trip to China?

 

7. How many times has he been to China?

 

8. How many days was his first stay in China?

 

9. Dates of 2nd trip? (VO very interested in dates and lengths of my trips).

 

10. Length of stay on 2nd trip?

 

11. Dates of 3rd trip?

 

12. Lenght of stay on 3rd trip?

 

13. Dates of 4th trip?

 

14. Lenght of stay on 4th trip?

 

15. Is he in China with you now? (The VO had my passport in her hand and never looked at it.)

 

16. How old is your fiance?

 

17. Do you understand he he is divorced 2 times?

 

18. Dates of BOTH of his 2 divorces?

 

19. Why did he get divorced?

 

20 Where does he work, what does he do?

 

21. What is his address? My lady tried to give the VO my street address, city, state, and zip code and the VO screamed...ADDRESS, ADDRESS!! So my lady quickly gave her the city and state.

 

22. Date of engagement?

 

23. When did you get divorced?

 

24. What is your age?

 

25. Where does your ex-husband live?

 

26. Do you plan to study or work in america?

 

27. Son's age?

 

28. Do you have custody?

 

29. Photos? VO very studied the photos and wanted to know the sequence of each trip.

 

30. Do you have his financials? Threw ALL of my supporting documents from self employed through the window and they came un-clipped and scatterd all over the interview room floor. Son played fetch and handed them back to his mother.

 

31. E-mails?

 

 

 

VO pulled out a blue slip and started filling it out. My lady asked her what she needed and was told "I don't need anything, if you don't hear from us in 3 months, e-mail us". MY LADY HAD EVERYTHING THEY COULD HAVE ASKED FOR ON A BLUE SLIP...IN A FOLDER.

 

The interview was RAPID FIRE...one question after another. My lady stood there and answered the VO as quickly as she asked a question...and kept her composure now matter how the VO acted or sarcastically asked her questions.

 

The VO was typing the whole time and barely looked up, only to see photos and e-mails.

 

VO filled out blue slip and handed that and the passports back.

 

Fiancee and son smiled, said "Thank you" and "Goodbye". VO looked up and laughed at them.

 

tsap seui

[N&J]

tsap seui

 

Good luck on your new adventure.

Your love for each other will bind you together making you even strong.

God bless both of you....and God speed on your flight the china

[credzba]

I am glad the wait is over Tsap.

Get on with your life, enjoy your wife and son.

 

Please know that your suffering was not a total loss as it has help, at least me, maybe others prepare mentally.

 

I have not prepared my wife as you did for the interview, but instead I prepare her to accept any outcome.

I tell my wife that, pink is good, she comes to America, white is good, I come to China, blue is good, we make our decision on what we want to do together.

 

I wish you the best in China. I love the country, and wish I could live there. Your wife will get to visit America if she wishes in the years to come.

 

Each of our lives have a path to walk. We can not determine the path, only accept what comes.

Keep in mind that this evil officer has to live with herself every day, a far worse fate than anything we can imagine, I am sure

[H.Woodside]

That was total BULLSHIT, to be treated that way cusin tsap, kinda makes me feel ASHAMED to be an American, know wat I mean when it's citizens are treated the way you folks were.....truly sorry

 

Hamp

[NewDay2006]

I'm very sorry to hear this. It doesnt make much sense. Be strong. I know the both of you have been, but I can only imagine what the both of you have endured during this process.

 

I wish you the best in whatever decision you shall make for your futre with your SO. God Bless and Good Luck.

[georgeandli]

tsap seui, My brother you have seen the worst. Now you will see the best. I truly wish ya and yours the good luck that you deserve. You filled in the blanks that I didn't know already and now I'm even more pissed off for you. And I was pissed at the "service" LiWen and I received, next to you.. I feel lucky. Just let us know what the heck is going on. Then we can make plans accordingly. It took 10 months to let you know they were kicking it back stateside? That's about the time it took us for our overcome once it got back here to get back to GUZ.

[Missingyou]

My husband and I together want to wish you all the best. Being able to live with your love ones is all it matter. I know it is easy for me to say this, because I am not you and I didn't feel the pain you and your wife went to. I hope you and your wife and son a wonderful new beginning in China. Please come back to CFL to say hello and update us how you are in China. You will be missed!

[xiaofeizhu]

tsap seui,

 

I have always enjoyed reading your posts and keeping up on any developments. It always upset me to read about your experiences, especially when we trust these VOs to be professional, which your wife's VO clearly was not.

 

I wish you, your soon-to-be wife, and your son all the best that China has to offer. If we don't see an interview date soon, maybe my hubby and I could take you out to lunch or something one day. Then you could show me how to make that toilet seat contraption!!! LOL. J/K about the seat, but we would actually like to take you out to luch!!

 

Best of luck. I hope you continue to post your story on CFL, especially when you get some wedding pics, and stuff like that. I think you will love China, and most of all, love being with your family!

[Dave&Hong]

I wish you both the best of luck in your future. No one deserves to be treated with so little respect, yet our government seems to feel that it is ok to treat people who want to come to the US to start a new life like crap. I hope someday this changes, but I won't hold my breath.

[thewaitiskillingme]

Ronny

 

You and I have talked some on the phone, and I recognize you truly have been broken hearted in all ways figurative and literal. I use your story in my life to remind me of how unpredictable life can be, that the best made plans can go south faster then I can write this word; to remind myself that power can and often does corrupt, and to remember how very little control I have over the outcome of my labor.

 

I use your story to understand that I could just as easily be in your shoes too. I GET that I might actually be in your shoes within the year, and that if I'm not it's simply luck and good fortune and nothing more.

 

Oh, I gotta go...online date with my sweetie. More later.

 

Marc

 

 

I started not to even post this garbage and to just get on with "our" lives but what the hell, I've been hanging out here for a bit and made some friends. I am not looking, and never was looking for sympathy. This is, just what it is. My fiancee cries her eyes out on the phone during our conversations, I just sit there with wet eyes and tell her to talk it out and to not hide her anger or sorrow as it will bite her in the ass later if she hides it now (PTSD). The last 10 months have been pure hell on my precious lil' rabbit but now the trial by fire is OVER baby!!

 

We have survived more stress than, hopefully, most of you will ever have to live through, and we are stronger than ever. It took both of us working together and talking many many untold hours on the phone to make it through this. I would never have known what this strong lady was made of and would never have known her so well, so quickly, without this awful experience we have been put through by the damned sorry american government.

 

Our bona fide relationship is REAL. I will be going to China in mid June to marry my wife and research school opportunities, and flipping houses.

 

We are okay and getting stronger each day now that the horror show has ended. I'll be moving over later this year, going to work, and in a year and a half filing a DCF.

 

Truly, our visa journey and our life togeter is just beginning. It's going to be an exciting adventure and our family is finally going to be together. Maybe in 2011 we'll return to america... if there is anything worthwhile left to return to. Or, maybe we'll wind up in Australia or New Zealand...if'n we decide to leave Chinatucky for awhile.

 

The following is what being super prepared, front loading your initial application, working your asses off to rehearse, writing Confressmen, the President, and almost 70 e-mails to GUZ can get for you.

 

We are honest people, have both never been in any trouble, and have a more bona fide relationship than any of those DOS workers in Guangzhou will ever have with their wife or husband.

 

This was in response to my 72nd e-mail to the DOS's Goobers in Guangzhou and was recieved 300 days after I was told at ACH by a lying two faced DOS VO that "in a month, month aand a half your fiancee should be getting a letter from us asking her to bring her passports back to the Consulate."

 

 

It's TOTALLY about LUCK boys and girls. It could have happened to anyone that you've seen who got a visa no matter how well prepared they tell you they were.

 

We would have been much better off to have been given a denial 10 months ago at our interview, instead the bastards chose to twist us in the wind for 10 months for this

 

I truly hope this never happens to any of you.

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------

The Consulate is unable to issue Ms. XXX an immigrant visa because,

according to the Immigration and Nationality Act, she is currently

ineligible. The Consulate has determined, based on her testimony,

documents, and any other evidence, that she does not have a bona fide relationship with the petitioner. The Consulate is preparing to return

this case to the USCIS for review and possible revocation. The

applicant will be informed by mail when the case file has been

transferred to USCIS. The USCIS office that first approved this

petition will contact the petitioner about how to appeal this decision.

----------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

 

 

Here is a glimpse of our story and our interview:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I went over 4 times in 9 months, getting to know each other and studying and rehearshing for the interview. In that nine months I was with her in China more that 3 months.

 

The goodbyes were hard during those 4 trips, but on the first 3 we always had hope and the interview to look forward to. That goodbye after the interview was a KILLER to both of us. It was much worse than when I left america twice to go to Vietnam.

 

I was told, at american citizen hour, it was going to be a quick, month, month and a half for them to make their decision...so we waited. Then as time went on we feared I'd visit, get on the plane to leave, get home and she'd get her letter to return to GUZ.

 

Tell you the truth, she doesn't want me to come over for another 3 week stay. She wants me to come over and either bring her to america, or to stay in China and get married...and stay in China.

 

Looking back, if we'd have known it was going to be this long, I'd have gone over and waited with her...and I'd recommend that to someone who got an administrative processing type blue slip, but, my dumb ass trusted the VO at ACH...boy do I feel stupid now. But ya know. you hit the 5 month mark and they touch your case, so you wait...then you hit the 6 month mark and they change you from administrative processing to administrative "review" so your hopes get up and think "it won't be long now"....it's now almost 2 months since that change to "review".

 

We talk twice a day (stopped the freakin' e-mails) for anywhere from 3 to 5 hours EVERYDAY. Our relationship has greatly grown in strength and understanding each other. We've been under more stress than most folks will ever have in their relationship, and we are surviving it very well.

 

I've used the time here to liquidate everything I could...turned in 2 2006 leased vehicles, sold my 2006 Harley, one of two houses, the second is on the market (now goed to settlement on June 9th, 2008), and moved into an apartment to wait this thing out. Sold everything but an old pickem-up truck, a couple of old cars, and my home renovation tools.

 

Hope it doesn't seem like I've given up ....merely preparing. I see the trend, and have been seeing what others were getting.

-------------------------------------------------------

 

The interviewm 10 months ago, with the dried up old prune of an american BITCH who has herself a position of power in the american government.

 

 

It was conducted by one of the most disgusting and disgraceful american women to ever walk this planet. Threated my fiancee and her 11 year old son like they were trash. But my lady kept her focus and didn't get rattled. That's a ploy the VO's will use so they can easily deny these women. We're certain she avoided a white slip cause she was too prepared and knew too much...so...they gave her this shit.

 

Questions: In a rapid fire style manner, with much anger and stressful comments. My fiancee knew all the answers in english (as well as the questions in english)...from answering 75 practice questions (in english) twice a day for over 3 months.

 

My fiancee and her son walked to the window...smiled, and together said said "Hello"..."Good morning". THe VO looked at them in disgust, scowled, and sneered at them...never responded with a "Good morning" or acknowledged that they were human beings.

 

 

 

1. Passports? Wouldn't even open my passport and handed it, and my certified/hand written evolution of relationship letter and new intent to marry statement RIGHT back.

 

2. Can you speak english?

 

3. Who helped you to apply for the K-1 visa?

 

4. How did you meet?

 

5. Date of first e-mail?

 

6. Dates of fiance's first trip to China?

 

7. How many times has he been to China?

 

8. How many days was his first stay in China?

 

9. Dates of 2nd trip? (VO very interested in dates and lengths of my trips).

 

10. Length of stay on 2nd trip?

 

11. Dates of 3rd trip?

 

12. Lenght of stay on 3rd trip?

 

13. Dates of 4th trip?

 

14. Lenght of stay on 4th trip?

 

15. Is he in China with you now? (The VO had my passport in her hand and never looked at it.)

 

16. How old is your fiance?

 

17. Do you understand he he is divorced 2 times?

 

18. Dates of BOTH of his 2 divorces?

 

19. Why did he get divorced?

 

20 Where does he work, what does he do?

 

21. What is his address? My lady tried to give the VO my street address, city, state, and zip code and the VO screamed...ADDRESS, ADDRESS!! So my lady quickly gave her the city and state.

 

22. Date of engagement?

 

23. When did you get divorced?

 

24. What is your age?

 

25. Where does your ex-husband live?

 

26. Do you plan to study or work in america?

 

27. Son's age?

 

28. Do you have custody?

 

29. Photos? VO very studied the photos and wanted to know the sequence of each trip.

 

30. Do you have his financials? Threw ALL of my supporting documents from self employed through the window and they came un-clipped and scatterd all over the interview room floor. Son played fetch and handed them back to his mother.

 

31. E-mails?

 

 

 

VO pulled out a blue slip and started filling it out. My lady asked her what she needed and was told "I don't need anything, if you don't hear from us in 3 months, e-mail us". MY LADY HAD EVERYTHING THEY COULD HAVE ASKED FOR ON A BLUE SLIP...IN A FOLDER.

 

The interview was RAPID FIRE...one question after another. My lady stood there and answered the VO as quickly as she asked a question...and kept her composure now matter how the VO acted or sarcastically asked her questions.

 

The VO was typing the whole time and barely looked up, only to see photos and e-mails.

 

VO filled out blue slip and handed that and the passports back.

 

Fiancee and son smiled, said "Thank you" and "Goodbye". VO looked up and laughed at them.

 

tsap seui

[Sebastian]

Your caustic experience, combined with other's caustic experiences, had caused me to seriously consider forming a watchdog organization to be active in Guangzhou.

 

I had fleshed it all out to the point of having the paperwork ready to file as a NGO (non-governmental organization) and fleshed out the fundraising campaign, and even made a short list of who i would consider as officers of the organization, and the basic criteria for the field workers.

 

I even found office space inside of 'that' building as well.

 

My bottom line goal was to make sure that cases similar to yours would have an immediate chance for secondary review within the same week of initial blue-slip issuance.

 

I haven't given up on any of this, I've made some progress, but now I have had to set it aside for other pressing business and financial matters.

 

There is high interest in Guangzhou for this type of NGO to exist, and yes, there are still hurdles to overcome with some operational procedures and privacy-act issues . But they are not insurmountable.

 

Thank you for pissing me off enough to want to do something about it, and thank you for pissing me off enough to DO something about it. Future Time will Tell, but Past Time (yours) has spurred me into action.

 

Be Well, and Well Rested, my anonymous friend.

[Smitty]

Tsap, the interview for your fiancee was terrible, and it gets my ire up every time I read it. I wish there was something I could do to help you, but sadly all I can do is offer these poor words.

 

Just remember, what ever doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.

 

I was interested to see what your visa plans were once you moved overseas, and perhaps filing that DCF will be much better for you and Lil Rabbit.

[Don]

I am very sorry this has happened to you. It really is an injustice. At least now you know your next steps to take. Maybe Chengdu would be a good area to fix up homes in.

Edited May 24, 2008 by Don (see edit history)

[H.Woodside]

 

I use your story to understand that I could just as easily be in your shoes too. I GET that I might actually be in your shoes within the year, and that if I'm not it's simply luck and good fortune and nothing more.

 

This is also how I "roll", and it scares the shit out of me to think of being in that/your position (and it may come to that).

 

The truth is, that in a way you are "lucky", if you will, because you are able to "pull up stakes" and move to be with lil' rabbit in Chinatucky, and be HAPPY together, (and I know that aint exactly easy).

 

In the same situation, the "decision" on my part, to leave the USA and be with my fiancee, was made sixteen years ago, when I had my first child, and my youngest is eight, I have raised them all from birth and will continue to do so.

 

I highly doubt that my fiancee will be OK with a ten year (minimum), long distance relationship (nor would I)..........so if it comes to that, I doubt that I would show the "restraint" that you have, all this time.

 

My "hat" is off to you, you are a gentelman and a schollar, and I wish you and lil' rabbit the best, with your life TOGETHER!

 

You deserve MORE than what YOUR country has to offer.

 

 

Peace out

 

Hampton

[ken88]

I started not to even post this garbage and to just get on with "our" lives but what the hell, I've been hanging out here for a bit and made some friends. I am not looking, and never was looking for sympathy. This is, just what it is. My fiancee cries her eyes out on the phone during our conversations, I just sit there with wet eyes and tell her to talk it out and to not hide her anger or sorrow as it will bite her in the ass later if she hides it now (PTSD). The last 10 months have been pure hell on my precious lil' rabbit but now the trial by fire is OVER baby!!

 

We have survived more stress than, hopefully, most of you will ever have to live through, and we are stronger than ever. It took both of us working together and talking many many untold hours on the phone to make it through this. I would never have known what this strong lady was made of and would never have known her so well, so quickly, without this awful experience we have been put through by the damned sorry american government.

 

Our bona fide relationship is REAL. I will be going to China in mid June to marry my wife and research school opportunities, and flipping houses.

 

We are okay and getting stronger each day now that the horror show has ended. I'll be moving over later this year, going to work, and in a year and a half filing a DCF.

 

Truly, our visa journey and our life togeter is just beginning. It's going to be an exciting adventure and our family is finally going to be together. Maybe in 2011 we'll return to america... if there is anything worthwhile left to return to. Or, maybe we'll wind up in Australia or New Zealand...if'n we decide to leave Chinatucky for awhile.

 

The following is what being super prepared, front loading your initial application, working your asses off to rehearse, writing Confressmen, the President, and almost 70 e-mails to GUZ can get for you.

 

We are honest people, have both never been in any trouble, and have a more bona fide relationship than any of those DOS workers in Guangzhou will ever have with their wife or husband.

 

This was in response to my 72nd e-mail to the DOS's Goobers in Guangzhou and was recieved 300 days after I was told at ACH by a lying two faced DOS VO that "in a month, month aand a half your fiancee should be getting a letter from us asking her to bring her passports back to the Consulate."

 

 

It's TOTALLY about LUCK boys and girls. It could have happened to anyone that you've seen who got a visa no matter how well prepared they tell you they were.

 

We would have been much better off to have been given a denial 10 months ago at our interview, instead the bastards chose to twist us in the wind for 10 months for this

 

I truly hope this never happens to any of you.

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------

The Consulate is unable to issue Ms. XXX an immigrant visa because,

according to the Immigration and Nationality Act, she is currently

ineligible. The Consulate has determined, based on her testimony,

documents, and any other evidence, that she does not have a bona fide relationship with the petitioner. The Consulate is preparing to return

this case to the USCIS for review and possible revocation. The

applicant will be informed by mail when the case file has been

transferred to USCIS. The USCIS office that first approved this

petition will contact the petitioner about how to appeal this decision.

----------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

 

 

Here is a glimpse of our story and our interview:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I went over 4 times in 9 months, getting to know each other and studying and rehearshing for the interview. In that nine months I was with her in China more that 3 months.

 

The goodbyes were hard during those 4 trips, but on the first 3 we always had hope and the interview to look forward to. That goodbye after the interview was a KILLER to both of us. It was much worse than when I left america twice to go to Vietnam.

 

I was told, at american citizen hour, it was going to be a quick, month, month and a half for them to make their decision...so we waited. Then as time went on we feared I'd visit, get on the plane to leave, get home and she'd get her letter to return to GUZ.

 

Tell you the truth, she doesn't want me to come over for another 3 week stay. She wants me to come over and either bring her to america, or to stay in China and get married...and stay in China.

 

Looking back, if we'd have known it was going to be this long, I'd have gone over and waited with her...and I'd recommend that to someone who got an administrative processing type blue slip, but, my dumb ass trusted the VO at ACH...boy do I feel stupid now. But ya know. you hit the 5 month mark and they touch your case, so you wait...then you hit the 6 month mark and they change you from administrative processing to administrative "review" so your hopes get up and think "it won't be long now"....it's now almost 2 months since that change to "review".

 

We talk twice a day (stopped the freakin' e-mails) for anywhere from 3 to 5 hours EVERYDAY. Our relationship has greatly grown in strength and understanding each other. We've been under more stress than most folks will ever have in their relationship, and we are surviving it very well.

 

I've used the time here to liquidate everything I could...turned in 2 2006 leased vehicles, sold my 2006 Harley, one of two houses, the second is on the market (now goed to settlement on June 9th, 2008), and moved into an apartment to wait this thing out. Sold everything but an old pickem-up truck, a couple of old cars, and my home renovation tools.

 

Hope it doesn't seem like I've given up ....merely preparing. I see the trend, and have been seeing what others were getting.

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The interviewm 10 months ago, with the dried up old prune of an american BITCH who has herself a position of power in the american government.

 

 

It was conducted by one of the most disgusting and disgraceful american women to ever walk this planet. Threated my fiancee and her 11 year old son like they were trash. But my lady kept her focus and didn't get rattled. That's a ploy the VO's will use so they can easily deny these women. We're certain she avoided a white slip cause she was too prepared and knew too much...so...they gave her this shit.

 

Questions: In a rapid fire style manner, with much anger and stressful comments. My fiancee knew all the answers in english (as well as the questions in english)...from answering 75 practice questions (in english) twice a day for over 3 months.

 

My fiancee and her son walked to the window...smiled, and together said said "Hello"..."Good morning". THe VO looked at them in disgust, scowled, and sneered at them...never responded with a "Good morning" or acknowledged that they were human beings.

 

 

 

1. Passports? Wouldn't even open my passport and handed it, and my certified/hand written evolution of relationship letter and new intent to marry statement RIGHT back.

 

2. Can you speak english?

 

3. Who helped you to apply for the K-1 visa?

 

4. How did you meet?

 

5. Date of first e-mail?

 

6. Dates of fiance's first trip to China?

 

7. How many times has he been to China?

 

8. How many days was his first stay in China?

 

9. Dates of 2nd trip? (VO very interested in dates and lengths of my trips).

 

10. Length of stay on 2nd trip?

 

11. Dates of 3rd trip?

 

12. Lenght of stay on 3rd trip?

 

13. Dates of 4th trip?

 

14. Lenght of stay on 4th trip?

 

15. Is he in China with you now? (The VO had my passport in her hand and never looked at it.)

 

16. How old is your fiance?

 

17. Do you understand he he is divorced 2 times?

 

18. Dates of BOTH of his 2 divorces?

 

19. Why did he get divorced?

 

20 Where does he work, what does he do?

 

21. What is his address? My lady tried to give the VO my street address, city, state, and zip code and the VO screamed...ADDRESS, ADDRESS!! So my lady quickly gave her the city and state.

 

22. Date of engagement?

 

23. When did you get divorced?

 

24. What is your age?

 

25. Where does your ex-husband live?

 

26. Do you plan to study or work in america?

 

27. Son's age?

 

28. Do you have custody?

 

29. Photos? VO very studied the photos and wanted to know the sequence of each trip.

 

30. Do you have his financials? Threw ALL of my supporting documents from self employed through the window and they came un-clipped and scatterd all over the interview room floor. Son played fetch and handed them back to his mother.

 

31. E-mails?

 

 

 

VO pulled out a blue slip and started filling it out. My lady asked her what she needed and was told "I don't need anything, if you don't hear from us in 3 months, e-mail us". MY LADY HAD EVERYTHING THEY COULD HAVE ASKED FOR ON A BLUE SLIP...IN A FOLDER.

 

The interview was RAPID FIRE...one question after another. My lady stood there and answered the VO as quickly as she asked a question...and kept her composure now matter how the VO acted or sarcastically asked her questions.

 

The VO was typing the whole time and barely looked up, only to see photos and e-mails.

 

VO filled out blue slip and handed that and the passports back.

 

Fiancee and son smiled, said "Thank you" and "Goodbye". VO looked up and laughed at them.

 

tsap seui

 

 

I am sorry to hear your case. You have weathered the storm with courage and determination. I admire you.

 

I wish the Best of luck, Tsap seui, in what ever you do. I am sure you will enjoy your stay in China.

 

My case is not much different from yours. My application process and my AP has now taken almost TWO YEARS (complete two years in July). Mine was a normal application with no complications.

 

I have submitted my official marriage certificate issued by the Chinese government and all the our pictures together. I can not believe the guts of the VO to say that "there is no evidence of a bona fide relationship". She refused to see my Instant messaging 3 times week for 1year and beyond, and Western Union receipts of my sending money to my wife every month, which would have proved right then and there that it is legit marriage! Is this VO blind or did she have a terrible fight with her husband the previous night?

 

We should have an action committee in GZ to investigate all blue slips issued. But I think that we are all afraid that if we do anything, our wives wives could be for ever barred from entering the US.

 

At one time I thought of picketting in front of USC, GZ holding a big sign "My innocent wife is prisoner of USC, GZ visa office incompetency, for the last 1 year and 11 months. Please release her immediately"

 

These VOs sit in bullet proof booths. We can not sue them, we can not lodge a complaint against them and we can not even ask for an explanation. they are completely protected by the U.S. gov.

 

Ken88