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Hey all. For background, we had a hell of a time getting my wife’s IR-1 visa from 2013-2014. Because of CPC membership she spent 16 months in AP. Regardless, after 7+ years in the U.S. (and 10+ years since last paying Party dues) we are applying for her U.S. citizenship. Over the past years I’d seen threads here about folks getting rejected because of the ten year rule, so we decided to wait until ten years had passed. We’ve started on the N-400 and I’m planning for us to copy and paste from her CPC statement we prepared for AP way back when. She’ll also add a note that this was previously disclosed when applying for her IR1 and highlight that more than ten years have passed since any involvement or passing any dues. Any suggestions on other things we should add? Or is the struggle mostly with the USCIS officer you eventually met? What’s the opinion on whether or not it’s worth getting a lawyer?
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Hello, I have applied for a Fiancé Visa for my girlfriend who is a CCP member for over 10 years. She joined because she wanted to work at the university level and it was a necessary requirement and if she were to quit she would have lost her job. She has her interview upcoming in Guangzhou and we have prepared the resume and documents per this forum. some of the info on this website is 10 years old, has anything changed in the process or as far as denials since then? I am worried as the relationship with China has deteriorated. Is there anything else we could possibly prepare or do to bolster our case? we have told the truth and documented everything. thanks
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Curious to hear if anyone has had success applying for citizenship who at some point joined the CCP, particularly those who applied before the sacred 10 year mark. Thanks! -
Rachel (Ruiqing) has her citizenship interview tomorrow in Seattle. She has studied like crazy with copious notes (even looked up pronunciations on each of the Indian tribes!). The boys and I have tested her hard and she constantly scores 100% so no worries on the testing part. We have incorporated the boys into family quizzing sessions so they learn too. Her English should be just fine with 6 years of total immersion on top of her having a good mastery when I met her. From what I have read, for this location at least, if she has an early enough interview (she does), she can do a same day oath ceremony so we are hoping for that. Passport application is ready to drop off later in the afternoon! The only real risk: CCP... She is ready to answer to it just as she did for K-1 and GC... can only hope they come to the same conclusion...
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Hi Everyone, I'm new to the forums. I just joined after I was reading interview questions for Chinese K1 Visa applicants and saw the question about the communist party, which made my stomach drop to say the least. My fiancee joined the communist party this winter/spring (her senior year of college) to put on her resume in hopes that it would help her get a good job following graduation. At this point, we were not engaged and she did not yet have plans to live in the U.S. She has not ever participated in anything CCP related since joining, no meetings, no nothing. I'm worried because she did so voluntarily. She may have had pressure from her family and school, but I'm still concerned. Additionally, she has not been working since graduation. She came to the states to live with me and meet and spend time with my family before returning to China in August. Since then, she has remained unemployed and has begun studying for her GRE in hopes of attending school in the states at some point in the next few years. Has anyone experienced this situation before? If so what were the results? Should she leave the party now? I doubt she will have any proof of doing so, and she hasn't been employed. I'm extremely worried and sad about the whole situation. I just don't know what I should do to move forward. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
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Hi there! My fiancee doesn't know what the type of membership with the CCP she has. She just says she is the lowest level of member. She joined as a student and hasn't done anything else besides pay her dues. I see a lot of talk about "rank and file members" when talking about the CCP, but I feel like that's always in relation to a job that has "rank and file" duties. I may be totally wrong. I'm just confused. Can anyone clarify this for me? Thanks, Matthew
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My fiancee got a blue slip when she had interview in mid of January this year because of her communist membership. She sent letter and resume to Guangzhou consulate per instruction in mid of February. I did sent an email inquiry to the consulate regarding her case in May. However, beside the update due to my inquiry, there are no more update from on CEAC since the next day that she sent the docs to the consulate. Is it normal? It seems like her case is untouched after she submitted the document to consulate, and no one is working on her case. I am so worried now after 5 months of waiting...
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On the DS-260 Form, in the "Security and Background Section", one of the questions is: "Are you a member of or affiliated with the Communist or other totalitarian party?" The wording/tense of the question is what I am confused on. I have read through tons of CCP related posts on here, but still don't really know how to answer this question because I thought the question was supposed to be "Are you or have you ever been affiliated.....blah blah blah with the CCP", which includes the past tense aspect of it. Anyway, here is my wifes case: In 2012, her senior year of college, an advisor came to her (because her grades were top of the class) and suggested attending a training day/class affiliated with the Party. The advisor insisted she go so she went for the one day, paid a small fee to get a certificate, and that was the end of it. She never participated in any other events and hasn't paid her dues since that one time in 2012. I know even this one event counts as CCP related, but still need to know how to answer this question. Should I put down "Yes" and then provide the explanation I just mentioned? I thought at the time of the interview was the time to answer this question and then post interview fill out the CCP Waiver. Any help and clarification would be much appreciated! Thanks guys! -Flash
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Hello, Everyone I am a new member to this form. My wife's F2A visa recently was declined due to her CCP membership. We've provided a written statement for an exception under INA 212(a)(3)(D)(ii), for involuntary past or present membership after her visa interview, but the case was still denied after 1 year's AP and waiting. So now I must apply for a waiver under INA 212(a)(3)(D)(iv) and submit I-601 form. I am looking for guidance to prepare statements and proof to support the waiver I-601. Any advice will be helpful! Thanks in advance! Mike
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Hello, I'm not new to this site, and I just can't seem to find information about this: My wife is J-1 Visa 2 year rule bound, and so she can't get her green card until living here in China for 2 years (we arrived July 8th, 2015) When should I start filing at GZ? We would like to get to the states without delay, and since she is a CCP member (rank and file) she will need the extra bit of time to do a background check or whatever the USCIS does with that time. Could I potentially just apply right now and then have the interview next year, and then get the visa whenever the 2 years are up? Thanks Nathan
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At the end of the interview in Guangzhou my wife was "Preliminary approved." However, due to her membership in the "Communist Party of China" we have to fill out a form titled, "Additional Employment and Education History/CCP Information." It asks us to answer 9 questions. Other than that everything went well. She even received a final processing letter. However, I read online that after submitting this form it might take months to get approved if at all. Has anyone else gotten this before? What exactly does this mean? (I couldn't post the picture of the form for some reason.)
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Hi all, I only found this website a month or so ago, but it's been so helpful in explaining the whole visa process. I wish I would have found it sooner! I'm hoping to get some advice on our current position. I was teaching in China for 3 years, and we submitted the I-130 in April of 2015 while I was still under contract for a couple of months. Since we had no idea how long this whole thing would take, we figured that I should go back to the US instead of coming back for another year of teaching. If only we had known! My wife had her visa interview for a CR-1 back in August of 2015. She had answered truthfully to the question about being a member of the CPC, so she needed to submit more information regarding her involvement. I helped her draft the answers. It seemed pretty straight forward to me. She had only joined before getting out of college because her parents said it would help her find a job post graduation. It didn't end up doing anything overt. She's a music teacher by trade so maybe being a CPC member looked better on her job application, but their was never any express statement that it was a requirement for her job. She worked at that school for 2 years, then we moved so I could take a new teaching job. At that point she stopped paying her dues, which she said was a simple way to have her membership lapse. I knew that that the CPC membership would be an issue, but I felt her particular case was so superficial that it wouldn't really be a hangup. I was dead wrong. I went back to the US in July and was living with my parents while looking to move. I contacted the local Congressman in November. They got the same reply from the embassy: "administrative processing." After I moved I was in a new congressional district, so in January I reached out to that Congresswoman. Her office was much nicer, but in the end they got the same answer. With February being Spring Festival this year, my wife was pretty miserable and begged me to come back to spend some time with her. Her parents, who she's been living with, have been particularly awful throughout this whole process. They don't understand anything about how the visa application process works and won't listen to my wife when she tries to explain the realities. Her dad still doesn't believe it has anything to do with her CPC membership. I had a job that I could do remotely, so I booked a ticket and came to China just before Spring Festival. I've been here about 3 months on a 120 day visa. We keep expecting there to be a change with her visa status, but there's been no movement at all since she submitted the additional documentation at the beginning of September. I contacted a sentor's office about a month ago, and they're still getting the same stock response. Needless to say my wife and I are pretty miserable and tired of the not knowing. At this point, I'm wondering if talking to a lawyer about a writ of mandamus would be worth the money. Does anyone have any advice for this particular situation? I could recontact the congresswoman's office since it's been more than 90 days since they asked, but I feel like the 3 separate government officials have had no effect. Any advice you all have would be greatly appreciated! -
I decide to wait for 2 years instead of appealing because 2 years is not hard to overcome, also because it is harder to appeal from the "mandatory for employment" angle as I never got the job although I tried hard. ========================= Hello, I have learned a lot from this forum since I had to apply for 485. I would like to share some experience of a denied N-400. I have been a LPR in the US for the past 3 years through my USC spouse. When I applied for green card in 2012, I honestly answered "yes" to the communist membership question in my I-485 and explained (1) I have stopped paying the due since the end of 2006 (2)was a bonus for education (3) was mandatory for a job position I was looking for. Because it had been terminated for 5 years at that point, my I-485 was approved and thus I got my green card. However, this year I filed N-400 based on my marriage but it got denied. The decision notes that "you are ineligible for naturalization at this time because you were a member of the CP within the last 10 years". I understand it has only been 8 years since I quitted the party so I do not fit the 10-year waiver. I was prepared to explain that the membership was a must for the job I was looking to but I never got a chance to explain because I got bombed by all tricky questions. Example questions: "do you have any proof or documents that you were out when you said you did?". I carefully explain it is impossible to get such a proof because (1) I am out for many years so my record is likely nowhere to be found. It is easier to prove when something exists, but it is much harder to prove when it no longer exists if something is gone. (2) as a ruling party, CCP can feel offended about members' leaving so it is unlikely to help verify. (3) I do not feel like contacting CCP anyway ever since the departure. Despite my effort, the interviewer only marked "no proof" in the facts. Other tricky questions include: 1) Why did you only passively quit by stop paying dues? Answered because my family work in the government and I do not want to get them in trouble. 2) Why 6 months? Answered it is on the constitution of the CCP. In the denial letter, the stated facts only say "passively quit by stop paying dues for 6 months" "did not have document to prove when he was out/stopped paying the due". None of my explanation were noted. I have already consulted an attorney and was suggested to wait for 2 more years because it is not something hard to overcome, which I agree. But I am really frightened by this interview experience. I think I will need an attorney the next time. Any comments?
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I read many posts here that the applicants were asked about CCP at visa interview. If yes, more documents are required. What are these documents? Some mentioned that the Consulate gave the applicants a question form regarding CCP (like a questionnaire) to fill out and sumbit it later. Does anybody happen to know relevant information? Thank you!
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Well, I'm hoping this is the last odds and ends questions. I'm finished with putting together almost all of my forms and evidence. I just have some small questions. Can the I-130 fee, when done by DCF, be payed in RMB in cash in person? If not, can it be payed by a debit card with USD? I speak fluent Chinese, my wife doesn't speak a lot of English. Do I need to prove I speak Chinese and that we have a common language? How would I do That? I remember seeing elsewhere someone had a video of them speaking Chinese requested. I'd like to prepare in advance. If my wife doesn't speak English too well, will that be a problem during her interview? How should I arrange my packet of photos and relationship evidence? All the photos in a zip lock back? In a separate folder/envelope? Should me sheets of paper with forms and letters be stapled, paper clipped, in a binder, or loosely put into a large envelope? This is a more complicated question. In most of the forms, addresses simply don't fit, domestic and Chinese ones. Should I not type them then hand write the address portions into the form? Or should I include a separate paper and write them on that? This is a question about all forms - I-130, g-325a, and the I-864. We will be living in my father's home when we go back to the US. He is going to be a joint sponsor. Since we are going to be in a single household, should he fill out an I-864a or a separate I-864? Back to addresses. I don't know which ones to write. My wife has lived in her grandma's home for years, but that house doesn't have a mailing address. It is also not the address on her hukou. It is not the one under her father's name either. Whenever she applies for things, she usually uses her uncles address as the mailing address. She has also lived there before. Should I just use that address on the forms? This part has been giving me, and her family, a headache. They All feel like its not something that our government will investigate into, but I want to fill things out correctly. I've been doing research and asking others about the whole communist party thing. My wife, before she was 16, was a Ա in school, something everyone was required to enroll in. She never paid any dues or went to any sort of meetings. She is not a Ա. Its probably more like the cub scouts than anything else. Do I need to make note of that and how/when? I haven't seen anything in the I-130 or first step forms. Is it at the interview stage? I think that's it for my questions. If anyone else has last minute advice please let me know! My hope is that we can get the visa in 2 to 3 months....it looks like recently DCF has been that fast if there are no hookups. Is that a realistic goal?
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Our case has been put in administrative processing for near to 3 months because of my CCP membership.During these months, the case was only updated one time by the official, and undated two times after my sending inquries. The embassy really doesnt give any meaningful information except for repeating that further processing is undergoing. I am just a rank-and-file member of CCP,and have never been involved in any political activity. I dont konw why the processing takes such a long time, is it possible that I lived outside China (Japan) for three years for my PhD? Besides living in Japan, I have been to many other coutries, such as Germany, Singapore, South Korea... Does travelling too many countries with holding a PhD make the frustrating administrative processing longer? Hoping to get some advices from friends who are on the same track. -
Good day, and happy Chinese new year! I Haven't been on in a long time! Much has changed, and I am currently preparing I-130 / I-485 for concurrent filing. I have questions regarding the Chinese Communist Youth League in relation to I-485 . My wife joined the Communist Youth League entering middle school as it was mandatory. She paid the fee one time, and hasn't thought about again it until it came up under (I-485). (Part 3. Q6). "Have you EVER been a member of, or in any way affiliated with, the communist party or any other totalitarian party?) From what I have read it is best to answer (NO). Then list the youth league under. (Part 3. C). "List your present and past membership in or affiliation with every organization, association, fund, foundation party, club, society, or similar groups in the united states, or in other places since your 16th birthday." Here is where the questions arise. We have heard mixed things. 1. If you haven' t paid the annual fee to the youth league, then she is automatically withdrawn, meaning she would have been withdrawn before her 16th birthday, and we shouldn't list it. 2. Even if you don't pay the annual fee your still considered enrolled. We then should list it, and withdrawal. Problem is we cannot find a way to see if she is still involved, and how to withdrawal if so. Checking for advice on how to handle this in the best way. -
Hi everyone, just wanted to update everyone on our situation. My wife got her visa status changed to issued on 9/17/2015! We started the application process on May 7, 2015 I believe (I handed in the materials in person in Guangzhou), and she went to Guangzhou for her interview on June 8, 2015. Since she is a CCP member she was told that further administrative processing was required. During our wait, we emailed the embassy once a month with a question about the process and also asking is there was any update (each time they just told us that further processing was required and that there was nothing else we needed to do but wait). Finally in early September they asked her to send her passport over to the Embassy, and on September 17 the status of the visa changed from "Administrative Processing" to "Issued!" Overall, this was right in line what we had heard on the forums here, about 3-4 months of administrative processing. Right now we are waiting on the visa to be sent out. How long does it take after the status changes to "Issued" for the passport to be ready for pick up at the CITIC Bank? We bought our flight for October 6 thinking it would be more than enough time but now we are still waiting and the status online says "Passport has been received from the consular section and is currently being processed for delivery." We are afraid because the mid-autumn festival and national holiday are coming up that we won't get the passport back in time for her flight!
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Hi all, We are filling out Form I-485 for my wife's AOS. She joined the CCP when she was an undergraduate student in China (as an academic honor) in 2010, but went completely inactive and stopped paying dues after she graduated and came to the US in 2011. Researching the topic of CCP membership, I am aware of Article 6 of the CCP Constitution, which states non-participating and non-paying members forfeit their membership after 6 months. At the top of page 4 of Form I-485, Part C there is a table for listing past memberships and it includes columns for "Date of Membership From" and "Date of Membership To". I'm wondering, given the above, what we should enter for "Date of Membership To"? Should we enter the date she went inactive plus 6 months? Have others done similar? Thanks! - Sorca
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Just a quick review of our K1 visa interview in Guangzhou on July 7, 2015. It was pretty straightforward. She gave her documents as requested to the Chinese employee who did ask her if she knew I was divorced. Her interviewing officer was a female American. She asked 1. What is your fianc's name? 2. Where was he born? 3. Where did you meet him? 4. When did he first come to China? 5. Where do you guys plan to live? She also asked if she knew if I was divorced and did she read the abuse brochure. She asked about her job and said nice things about her English. She was friendly the whole time. Then she finished with CCP questions and she/we did get the white paper (with CCP questions) with instructions to send the replies and any documents to an email address, for which you will get an auto-reply. And, she got out of Guangzhou just before the typhoon came up the coast. So, we are in AP re the CCP issue which is fine as we basically need to make it to our wedding celebration in China in October or die. She can travel on her visa to here afterwards where we will get married. Given the average wait for the visa approval and the time to complete AOS we knew we could not be ready to travel out of the country (and back) to make our set in stone wedding party. Weve had 3 updates in 10 days. I promise to post in this thread when we get a substantive update. Oh, the officer did not look at the elaborate photo album or and other evidence she brought! My general tips: Relax and carefully follow the instructions. Esp as explained here at CFL and over at Visa Journey.Try your best to ignore the drama queens posting all over at VJ; check the dates of links that you follow.When you try to schedule at GUZ, dont panic: everybody gets an interview - it can seem that there are no appointments - but you will get oneWhen filing the I-129f, DO include some evidence like pics, tix and a few chats. And, I mean unequivocal samples that show one or both of you in a time or place, proving you traveled to see the other. Easy to forget to get pics of the two of you together - surprised how few I had.The reason for the above is that they can review this in advance and it will get forwarded all the way to GUZ. You won't be a huge question mark when you walk in.
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My spouse got a blue slip in Guangzhou today. No reason for the denial was given, but it was likely due to the CCP issue. We provided a letter explaining the membership to them at the interview, and they didn't request any other documents. The officer said it would be 4-8 weeks before they will contact us by e-mail. It's confusing that some people with CCP get preliminary approval but some get a blue slip. There seems to be no rhyme or reason. Edit: In my moody state I didn't say that obviously the letter said that the direct reason is Section 221(g) of the INA. But what I meant was that no further reason was given other than that, when the officer was asked why.
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Hi everyone! New member but I've been following the forums since our process began (Apr 2014). My wife just had her interview on Jul 14 and because 1) we didn't notarize our Chinese marriage license, 2) she thought she was a CCP member (see below), we need to provide a notarized marriage certificate and "evidence of withdrawn application from CCP membership". After the interview she called her mom and had her check with the local CCP officials who pulled up her file and found out that even though she started the CCP membership application back in 2011, she never completed it or paid any registration fees because it was just something everyone was doing and she later got caught up with work and whatnot, so her pending membership expired. Because she never was a member, should we just have the local official write something up along those lines? We asked the notary office with jurisdiction over her hukou about notarizing something like that and they said they won't touch it (felt it was too risky?). Sent an email yesterday to the Guangzhou IV unit who replied with a cookie cutter statement saying to just do what the instructions on the slip we got say. Sent another email asking for clarification but no word yet. Also, the Consulate kept her passport and seemed pretty confident that the process won't take very long. Appreciate any help or advice! Thanks!
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I've been in administrative processing for more than 20 months since the K1 visa interview due to my former CCP membership. Don't know what to do :-(
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Hello Everyone, I landed US in 2011 with IR1 Visa. It has been 3 years. I am preparing to apply for US citizenship. N-400 form has a question regarding CCP membership. What should be filled for "Purpose of the Group" in Question 9B? I thought it can be "Political Party". Also, from this site, I saw some people with the membership were rejected for citizenship. It seems there is a sort of 10-year ban of citizenship eligibility after the membership was terminated. Should I wait for several years and then apply? Frankly this is not what I want. If apply now, do I include a statement regarding the membership? Such as the statement I submitted when applying for IR1visa. Or a new statement? Thank you very much for your suggestions.
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Thought I'd provide just another data point for everyone that could be useful. I filed for a DCF in Beijing on 25/11/2014. After the officer took my documentation he said it would take about 3 months (!). And indeed, we haven't heard anything yet at all. Big difference from some experiences I've read on here, with people hearing back after a week or two. It's getting close to the 60-day point when US CIS says you can begin to inquire about your petition status. So I'll probably do that in about a week. Anyone else applied around that time-frame? We're getting quite antsy. Another interesting question: I actually looked at the DS-260 form, and it only asks about current Communist Party membership, not past membership. But obviously the I-485 form does ask if you have ever been a Communist Party member. So it seems that if are a former member, and you follow the directions literally, you will write "No" on DS-260, but then later "Yes" on I-485, because they ask different things. That shouldn't be a problem, right?
