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http://www.counterpunch.org/secor10162009.html here it is

He is talking of spending time in 2006 in a poverty section of an older poor Chinese city. You can do the same thing all over the USA. This does not imply that "most" Chinese live in this condition nor that the government does not give a damn. If you are really interested google the author and read some of his earlier work regarding his thoughts on China and the USA (the government in particular) and the ROW. Then you will see that, perhaps, some of this long rant is related to his bitter feelings for whatever happened between him and his employer....

Old news ... and not a new trend for China

More background: http://linkstomemphis.com/2009/08/backgrou...-in-tunica.html This is quite interesting: "He fled the country under a false passport for Los Angeles, where he joined his wife and four children. Most of his own personal wealth had to be abandoned in China." Now how is it he is still in the country? Oh ... I see ... so if you get a blue or white card for your spouse ... just hire Bob Dole .... http://www.mgwashington.com/index.php/news...ole-lobby/1926/

According to a China Daily article he is planning to set-up plants in China too. And excuse me for wondering WTF....but how in the Fuck does this happen: "But Yang fled to the US in 2002 after becoming embroiled in some business disputes and being charged with economic crimes." You can get charged with crime in China and become a legal immigrant into the US?

I guess more to the point as to what I'm trying to say, this story is very "media" related. I'm not sure for example if the couple actually talked to the Justice of the Peace at all (it says for example they talked to his wife). Did this conversation take place during a time/place of business or after hours. However, I don't believe the wife's statements could have prohibited them from filing, then on the grounds of whatever denial the Justice of the Peace would make would have made this a much bigger issue (IMHO). Don't get me wrong, if what was said to them on a phone call and then someone contacted the judge and he expressed his opinion in print, then discrimation took place here. I'm just not sure I completely understand the details of the case to throw the book at the judge yet (I see that yahoo updated the story and two civil and constitutional rights are calling for him to resign). Here are two links from local sources. http://www.fox8live.com/mostpopular/story/...SDs9HAMXwA.cspx http://www.hammondstar.com/articles/2009/1...tories/8847.txt What I find interesting are these two reported comments: The Attorney General's office has told me I'm in violation of the law, but I have the right to recuse myself. I don't feel like I've done anything wrong." An attorney has advised Bardwell to just tell inter-racial coupes he couldn't marry them because he was busy on the day of their ceremony. In most states the JOP are required to marry people as long as they meet all the requirements. They can only refuse if the people do not meet the requirements as set forth by law. Again, putting the shoe on the other foot, I wonder what kind of discussion we would be having if one of our members reported that he was not allowed to get married at the Chinese provincal Foreign Affairs office because the offical in charge did not agree with mixed Chinese/American marriage due to it being "hard" for the kids. This is just plain wrong and there is no way to defend it or say the media has caused a stir.

point well taken. and you do say 'roughly'....so.... I think a distinction is here: The ¡®race issue¡¯ in this marriage request is discrimination of lifestyle choice. The ¡®race issue¡¯ of a business owner refusing service to ¡®your kind¡¯ is discrimination of a race. There is a difference there. I could be wrong: Does it benefit society to allow prejudice against a particular choice of lifestyle? I wonder if you would feel the same way if he told you this when you went to him to marry your Chinese spouse because he said in his statement that he is against mixed race marriages: "I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way,"

HELLO, I am very see you today . I tell you, if you want have a private room, the price is 300RMB/night in the fair (From 15 Oct. to 03 NOV.) I am sorry that I am so late to reply to you. Now I don't care who you are that is just funny!!!

Well, there actually is a slight difference ... At home citizens have remedies which can be effective in many instances. In China a common remedy involves staying home so that you don't get beaten by municipal security or worse, soldiers. If you change this to: At home rich and/or politically connected citizens ..... I would agree 100%.

The difference here is that the people have the say so where they go. We had the same situation and three locations were evaluated before a site was chosen to satisfy the people. I am reasonably sure in China the first indication that a landfill is going in within 100 yards of your little town is when the first truck load arrives and they are powerless to stop it because the local government official has already pocketed the payoff money to let it cone in. Another thing is that the Chinese modern landfills are lined with plastic so I have read in some articles but as one of the articles said the plastic is so thin that it is just a show more or less putting it in it tears so easily. The toxins leach right on in the ground water. I think that New York City is the probably the worst. They use to just take it off into the ocean and dump it. I don't know what they are doing with it now I haven't checked. I can't check everything as I am typing so I will assume they are still doing that. Some of it was even showing up here on our North Carolina beaches. They once ran several barges up and down the east coast of the us trying to pay someone to take it. They went all the was to Texas in the Gulf of Mexico and no one would take it so they had to return it to New York. So no the problem is not confined to China but the problem is magnified just like the burning of the rubbish and releasing 10 times more dioxins into the air that the more efficient American incinerators. My reasoning is why not build one less skyscraper in Beijing and build some efficient incinerators but that would not make the billionaire government officials there any richer would it that would cost them money wouldn't it. At the same time the landfill issue was taking place the US Navy wanted to take up several thousand acres of farm land for an auxiliary landing field. the people fought that and won and they moved it to another location where the local people wanted it in their neighborhood. Why didn't they do that in the first place put it where the people wanted it instead of trying to push it down folks throat that did not want it. It would have saved the American people millions of dollars in legal fees. The people spoke and won. I wonder what the outcome would have been in China. Larry The articles and instances I referred to the landfills and incinerators were built over the objections of the local people because the local people did not have the money/lawyers to fight off the government and special interests. Also some protested and where then taken away to jail with a few extra kicks/beating for good measure (according to the unreliable "poor" people). Some landfills in the USA have the same issues at that stated in this article. Why? Because the company installed a cheap liner rather than the specified one to save money. Regarding the incinerators they are only as good as the scrubbers are .. meaning there are cases where incinerator operators in the USA have been fined because they did not operator the scrubber system in order to increase profits. My reasoning is why not build one less skyscraper in Beijing and build some efficient incinerators but that would not make the billionaire government officials there any richer would it that would cost them money wouldn't it. One can easily make this arguement about numerous USA local, state, and federal projects also....why not give more the poor, to infrastructure, to enviromental projects, etc. We piss away so much money on special interests projects it numbs most people to the point of "refusal to beleive" it is really happening.

When I read the article it seems very similar to ones I have read here in the US newspapers regarding the government trying to locate incinerators and landfills in poor communites. The "not in my backyard" arguement. The comments from the people in the community about the pollution and that government not caring about them are the same I have seen in many US articles. This does not mean it is not a problem in China but it means that most of us in the USA are as sheltered from the "real America" (real to many poor and disadvantaged people) as we are from what others like to call the "real China".

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Also from MSNBC ... seems more balanced...huge potential for china but some serious issues/problems to resolve...but I would have to agree the balance of economic power will shift from USA to Asia... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33211602/ns/bu...world_business/

Yes that is correct. Beijing takes appointments but for GUZ there is a two-hour walk-in window. I would email them first to confirm this and to ask exactly where to go and what to ask for when you get there. Otherwise from 9-10:30 you will be wandering around trying to figure out where to go and by the time you get to the DHS window it will be too late until next week

K-3 is a multiple entry visa. I believe he could file an EAD without filing the I-485 and get her a SS card. Yes only need to file the EAD to get the SS card. Also yes she can go back to China and return as long as before the expiration date of her K-3 visa...it acts like a multiple entry visa...the only attractive part of the K3 these days.

China Govt. encourages general public to buy gold and silver .... See comments about the outlook of the dollar's value..... http://www.commodityonline.com/news/China-...21219-3-1.html#

B) Actually, that chain isn't bad. I stayed in one once in Shanghai because it happened to be half a block from a meeting venue amd found it clean and comfortable with WiFi. Hotels that don't have security posted at elevators, elevators in view of the reception desk or floor wardens are always a good bet if you are not married. Got to agree about the 7 Days Inn (also the Home Inn found in north China). If you want a small but clean room (usually new or newer building) for less than 150 RMB then this is the way to go. There are located everywhere and if plan to spend only a little time in the room and most of it out and about then this is the way to go in China.

My southern hometown was first on the list...surprised me at first but with three major universities and the RTP it does make sense.

I would not worry about it...in over 3 years with my gf/wife we never had a problem with this anywhere we have gone in China including GUZ. If she books the room and registers then many times they never if ask me for my passport even when I am standing there. However it is a large country and maybe others have experienced a problem so just be prepared...as long as you act like a married couple and are confident (kinda of like for the visa interview) I don't think you will have any trouble.

I have used them too...very good service and never a problem. I brought my daugthers over for the olympics and we had no problem then either. A friend of mine brought over his mother on Oct 1 this year...also no problem with her visa.

no where did the article say lation illegals were good and chinese were bad...it pointed out a shift in human smuggling patterns.

OMG, now that is scary!!! My wife always brings back knock-off apparel and handbags. I think I might have to try to put a stop to that. No more scary than the profit margin they make on real Rolex watches....

AMEN!! TO THAT!!! Please forgive me, but I am going to weigh in on this one last time. And sorry to hear about the UC at ACH. That is tough, since VOs have been known to sometimes ignore past cases and additional evidence and is often clearly stated. But my first point and I will be blunt...........The percentage question is irrelevant and simply a stupid question to ask.....bottom line.... All I need to know is 0 or 100 percent. Zero meaning don't bother. We all have faced this type of odds. Simply move on to something else. A 100 percent pass means no effort. Automatic... Everything else is possible. But let's simply take a 99 percent rate, but you are the ONE in a HUNDRED that did not pass even though a bon a fide. Does this 99 percent rate make you feel any better? Probably worse....your case matters and not some percentage. The reality is that how immigration works in this visa process is that the burden is on you. Sad but true, you are guilty, now prove your worth/innocence. So no matter who is running IV, it will never be 100 percent. The flip side is that with the help of sites like this you improve your odds....with a bon a fide case. And like I have mentioned, I am sure that there have been certainly guests to this site that have gathered info to commit fraud. The Consulate knows this as well. Another reality...so I would not expect them to be helpful here. And there are many assumptions made on this site. One I tend to agree with is that in many cases the visa is decided before the interviewer ever steps up to the window. Basically, what the VO told my fiancee. So if you agree with this assumption, it points to a good case and preparation vs luck. Although certainly luck or I will simply call fortune plays a role in almost anything of importance in life. My point is that most will reap what they sow....and many times you make your own luck. But clearly all bon a fides will not pass and does result in bad luck and/or preparation. Basically, pick your poison. Simply it seems that we have seen an improvement in GUZ and I feel fortunate to have had a favorable experience along with other CFLers.. I wish others as much fortune. And a positive experience at GUZ. Do you really beleive that 1 out of every 2 cases of spousal visa applications between a chinese and american are fraud or poorly prepared? I strongly doubt it. I agree with your point that if the rate was 100% it would be automatic...kind of like the work and student visas (check 9-11 entry).

Even if it is marked as a certain brand I just don't trust buying anything in China. In the large retail outlets the RMB price is the same as the US price, so I doubt any authentic name brand items are a decent deal there. I dont trust buying anything from anywhere anymore not just China.

ME4Ying made a good point, which has been posted here before by mods, regarding wating to file AOS after the 2-yr anniversary so one can get the 10-yr GC direct. This could be the reason the man does not want to file AOS right away and there is a communication issue between the two. You only got one side of the story second or even third hand.