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why not 2nd and 3rd means you didnt win

congratulations that she is here, hope the acclimation is smooth as possible. good luck!!

I am studying mandarin and pinyin is very helpful for me to relate what I am learning in Mandarin to what I know in English, I use a language software called fluenz which uses pinyin as one of the key learning tools, IMO it is much easier and efficent way of learning Mandarin than audio lessons alone, plus the pinyin helps with understanding the tone marks and pronunciation. Yeah, but when she makes fun of me for saying "ren", instead of "yen" (for people), that's when I hang it up! Time for her to learn English! that sucks the r is one of the most difficult letters to pronounce correctly in any language.

it is much easier and efficent way of learning Mandarin than audio lessons alone, plus the pinyin helps with understanding the tone marks and pronunciation. i agree 100%

Well, make that everyone except David then. Seriously, I think pinyin could help standardize pronunciations across China, except that that there are regional variations in it and the way it's pronounce - "s" vs "sh" vs "x", and "y" vs "r", for example. One reason I'm not trying to learn Chinese is that my wife's accent is different from what's on the CD's. but if you learn the common language everyone can pretty much understand you. my wfie told me everyone is taught mandarin in grade school its just they have forgotten it due to the fact of not using it.

sorry Randy it all started from the trouble maker Davids comment...

Remember that pinyin is only understood by SOME (Okay most) Mandarin speakers. For the most part, you don't see it on web pages or in print. So pinyin is typically used as a input method for Chinese characters, which are understood by most everyone in China. thats what i said A pinyin input system typically does not recognize context - it will give you a list of Chinese characters, like the one I showed. You then would choose the appropriate one. You seem to be inputting pinyin, and not worrying about the Chinese characters. Fine, but as far as I know, this is not in common usage. so many reasons for learning pinyin and chinese y¨¬n wei w¨¯ k¨§ y¨« g¨¥n w¨¯ de zh¨­ng gu¨® ji¨¡ r¨¦n shu¨­hu¨¤ all schools in China teach pinyin as part of understanding pronunciation. every child that goes through the public schools learns pinyin, its not only for inputing charcters

Remember that pinyin is only understood by SOME (Okay most) Mandarin speakers. For the most part, you don't see it on web pages or in print. So pinyin is typically used as a input method for Chinese characters, which are understood by most everyone in China. part of understanding the pronounciation is understanding pinyin. mandarin or P¨³ t¨­ng hu¨¤ is the common language in China. most everyone speaks it. even if they speak another dialect they understand the common language. almost everyone in china that speaks mandarin of my generation understand pinyin. its the stepping stone for hanzi

Just for ju¨¦ - many to choose from before you have an actual Chinese character ¾ó ju¨¦ crabby; tough Øã ju¨¦ chisel; engrave ØÊ ju¨¦ his; its àå ju¨¦ loud laughter ½À ju¨¦ to chew æÞ ju¨¦ larvae of mosquito ŒÖ ju¨¦ hemp sandals áÈ ju¨¦ towering as a peak Ž@ ju¨¦ sacrificial vessel ‘Ý ju¨¦ fear; be in awe; sudden glance ¾ñ ju¨¦ dig; pick ¾ò ju¨¦ dig ¾ð ju¨¦ seize (bird or animal) èö ju¨¦ rafter; malus toringo éÓ ju¨¦ a peg; low post ›Q ¾ö ju¨¦ breach (a dyke); to decide; to determine ˆ ju¨¦ bubble up ìß ju¨¦ torch ¾ô ju¨¦ nobility; (ancient wine holder with 3 legs and loop handle) â± ju¨¦ unruly; rude «P ju¨¦ a large ape found in W. China «i ju¨¦ half-circle jade ring «k çå ju¨¦ gems mounted together ­W ju¨¦ half-circle jade ring ¯‹ ju¨¦ to hiccup; the humours of the body ÛÇ ju¨¦ (surname); glance fearfully ½^ ¾ø ju¨¦ cut short; extinct; to disappear; to vanish; absolutely; by no means Ä_ ½Å ju¨¦ role Ä” ju¨¦ palate; sausage Ê… ju¨¦ coarse grass used to show rank Þ§ ju¨¦ Pteridium aquilinum Ïp ju¨¦ the Siberian jerboa ÓX ¾õ ju¨¦ feel; find that; thinking; awake; aware ½Ç ju¨¦ Chinese musical note; angle; horn õû ju¨¦ dissatisfied Ó ju¨¦ buckle; clasp; ring ÔE ¾÷ ju¨¦ farewell; secrets (of an art) ×H ÚÜ ju¨¦ deceitful Ø ju¨¦ (ape) Ú‘ ju¨¦ to gallop õê ju¨¦ stumble; trample; to kick (as a horse) Üj ju¨¦ bend; leap âf ju¨¦ to pierce, to stab; to take è‘ ju¨¦ a mattock; a billhook ?#96; ju¨¦ shrike thats why you need to speak chinese to understand the context if you see it together with du¨¬ you know it means ¾ø¶Ô or absolutely

We're talking about IME's here, not the OS. Professional typists use a coded system (there is more than 1) - where they memorize key sequences of 2 to 4 keys that represent the Chinese characters. This is faster than our keyboard system, since fewer characters (and hence fewer keystrokes) are needed. There are keyboard overlays for some that help out. One method from the past is the telegraphic codes. Writing pads and character recognition are also popular, and fairly fast since fewer characters are required than in English. During the Cultural Revolution, pinyin and foreign languages were not taught. Since then, however, most students have learned the pinyin and it is most popular among them. With either the pinyin or the writing pad IME's, you select the correct character from a list of possible matches. I think either method is slightly slower than ours because of this. p¨©n y¨©n ju¨¦ du¨¬ sh¨¬ de zu¨¬ sh¨°u hu¨¡n y¨ªng

??!?? Chinese computers don't use pinyin, except as one of several input methods Chinese characters are stored in memory by their unicode representations. pinyin however is by far a more practical way i would think. i suppose the other way is called wu bi, the computer will select the correct word according to the words next to it but you have to memorize a chart before, one english letter represents one chinese character stroke. kind of time consuming i would think.

i am learning basic hanzi although children learn to speak before they learn how to spell the word. and actually without pinyin chinese computers would be impossible, plus by learning pinyin this is the next step to learning hanzi. im convinced i will learn it one day.

Sure looks like it! B) the more i use it the more bugs i find in it. i gotta find another one i think. when it works it works great but there are too many times i try to type something and it just doesnt. like for instance shen2 me shi2 hou4 doesnt let allow the last 4th tone.

i installed the forst link http://www.chinese-forums.com/showthread.php?t=13005 and it seems to work well. now will it allow me to post these symbols is my next question zh¨¨ g¨¨ ru¨£n ji¨¤n f¨¥i ch¨¢ng y¨¯u y¨¬ si

does anyone know if there is a program out that types pinyin? i mean with the tones over the vowels not the numbers at the end of the words.

i agree Tony!!

its on live on NBC at 10am sunday morning.... China was very nice to schedule the game at 10pm for us to be able to watch it live.

interesting http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=93254957

thanks Tine im sure everything will work out, it was just a kind of shock, we just were not expecting the attitude.

Sounds like an approval to me... Just a note for others who find themselves in this situation needing proof of residency/ownership, but unable to redo mortgage. You also have an opton to do a quick-claim deed. This will be filed with your county and change ownership on the deed from you to you and your wife. Then you have a document to submit which shows valid ownership of the property. This is actually more binding than a mortgage. Also, most mortgage companies generally won't add someone to the mortgage unless they are already on the deed, but this can also be done during closing. I did this for Lisa's original AOS. Made it super easy. That would be a Quitclaim deed i thought i tried that a while back..... and it didnt work

they took her i94 out very neatly with a staple puller and took her EAD. hopefully we wont have any issues cause her EAD expires in november. along with her florida DL. i didnt realize they are suppose to stamp her passport, do you think we should go back and explain what happened?

were they suppose to stamp her chinese passport with something? unless she did this without us knowing....

so if thats the case why did they take her EAD? she will need that if she diesnt have her green card. originally i was told her background check was done. i thought thats why we went to this AOS interview.

We arrived in plenty of time at the Orlando service center or whatever it is called. Our names were called and we walked into the back room for our interview. Wo de tai tai said good morning to the woman who called our names and we got back a blank look and she said nothing. We get back to her desk and sit down and was told to stand back up and raise your right hand. Do you swear to tell the truth? Wo de TaiTai; Yes¡­ me; Yes¡­ ¡°I mean I do¡± I said. "So where did you 2 meet" she said. I said ¡°internet¡±. She gave an obvious ¡°humph¡± breathing threw her nose, at this point I knew we were in trouble. Her lips didn¡¯t unglue from the pursed position they were in for the rest of the interview. For some reason she was very angry at us. Let me see your visa approval letter she said, I said I don¡¯t know if we have that with us. TaiTai said that was not on the list of items that were asked for. She said well let me see the original i-94 I said we don¡¯t have that either, because we went back to China in May and they took it, I said I can show you the AP approval letter. She said I don¡¯t need to see that. How long have you been married? I said 2 years, another ¡°humph¡± Let me see your W2 forms for the last 2 years and your employment letter. Got it¡­ here you are. Then she said ok give me everything you have to prove she lives with you for the last 2 years. I said we have health insurance, car insurance, bank accounts she said is that it? for 2 years thats all you have? how about rent. I said we don¡¯t rent and I purchased the home before she arrived I would have to complete another closing package and pay another 6000 in order to get her name on the mortgage. TaiTai was getting nervous at this point and she said I have plenty of nice pictures for you to see with dates to show. The woman said I don¡¯t need to see your pictures. I said to her ¡°what other items would you like to see than¡± she said, don¡¯t talk to me in that tone of voice. I said I¡¯m not talking to you in any tone of voice I just want to know what we need to bring the next time we come. She said who said you are going to come back. Do you have any other questions? She said something like you should receive your green card in the mail after the check has been approved. i said Check? She said don¡¯t ask me when you will receive the card and it¡¯s our business when this gets approved. She handed TaiTai back her social security and kept her EAD. I think we are going to need to make another info pass appointment, I was just happy we got out of there alive. So I guess it¡¯s good news.