splinterman

It's difficult to give you any specific information without really knowing more about your case, especially which USCIS Service Center you were processed through.

I absolutely agree with this. Robert, search through CFL and you'll clearly find example after example of how your presence during her interview will give a substantial amount of confidence to your fiance. Knowing that I am currently in class, my wife has asked me repeatedly if I think I'll be able to take time off for her interview. This is a stressful time for those that interview - it's a life-changing event. You're correct Robert in that three trips does give validity to your relationship, but at this point, I have to think (judging from the other accounts I've read and from my wife's point-of-view) that this last trip, is more for your fiance's peace of mind, rather than something that will convince the VO of your legitimate relationship. Robert, I think what Warpedboard said is about the best advice anyone can give on this subject. There is just one thing I'd like to add: Visiting your sweetheart 3 times in six months CAN say a lot for the validity of the relationship. But, you never know how a VO will look at you not being there for the interview. Maybe he/she will think to themself: This guy has been to China to visit his hunnie 3 times in 6 months. He's trying to show how bona fide the relationship is. So, why isn't he here NOW for the interview, if the relationship is as important as he is trying to make it seem?

I printed out the forms that needed to be signed, signed them, and then scanned them back into a saved file. It was the saved files with the signatures which I emailed to the NVC. In the Army it was always ok to write "Original Signed" into the signature block but were prepared to present the original signature at a later date. I don't know if the NVC or the rest of the government will abide by that, and I wasn't going to take the chance. I think the electronic processing is so new that nobody really has a grip on the exact procedures. It all depends on the luck of the draw on whom you get as an NVC operator, and possibly an NVC caseworker also. The GUZ interview process is where it really matters-whatever you sent the NVC just be sure that the originals are present at the interview. How did you organize applicant's documents and petitioner's documents? Did you scan and combine ALL applicant's docuemnts in to ONE PDF file or keep each individual document as one file and then zip ALL files into one zipped file and send to NVCGuangzhou@state.gov? Another question: Did you put a check list or cover sheet in the front of all documents so that the VO will know what documents in the file? Thanks a lot! All documents pertaining to myself, the Petitioner, were scanned and sent in a couple compressed files which were identified in the body of the email message as "Petitioner Documents". All beneficiary documents were identified as such in the body of the emails that contained documents pertaining to my wife, and were sent to the NVC that way. Yes, I drew up a cover sheet/checklist that I put right on top of the I-864 documents, tax return copies, IRS transcripts, etc. and tabbed each exhibit for quick/easy reference for my wife when she is asked by the VO to present them. I also enclosed the barcoded forms and receipts for the AOS and IV fee payments along with all the financial-related documents. When I go to China before my wife's interview, I will have expandable/tabbed folders to put all of our documents in and have checklists showing what is in each folder so she can find the documents quickly. I'll organize everything for her before the interview and make sure she knows what she has and where it is. I am snail-mailing the hard copies of the I-864 and related papers to my wife, already organized and tabbed. She can look them over and familiarize while we wait for our interview date to be set. Hello splinterman, Thank you so much for your very clear explanation! Good luck! You're most welcome, Hailong, and I wish you the best of luck!

Congratulations, and best wishes!!!

Yes, that's true. I didn't hesitate to complete the form and return it to the NVC because I certainly don't want our petition's processing to be held up. I did that right away. The questions about the form's relevancy to the NVC and GUZ was just a secondary thing. I may or may not hear anything from them about the continued need for this form, but I would lean towards not getting any response at all. The one individual I know for sure who also experienced this also did not complete the form, or know anything about it, until they also received an email notice from the NVC that they had to complete and transmit the P3 form to complete the electronic processing of their CR-1. They also said that they didn't see that form listed in the requirements of things needed to be emailed to the NVC.

OK Randy, apology accepted. I can see how you may have felt that way. It's all good.

It would be great to actually hear from the NVC on this, because I know of a couple other people who didn't send this form. They didn't see it in the required document info links for the electronic processing, either, so it is not an easy thing to find or know about. My guess is, that my emails will go into the Great Abyss and we'll be no closer to solving this issue than any other ones where we need direction/info from our government... http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3190.html From the U.S. Embassy/Consulate General-specific information (after selecting GUZ) http://travel.state.gov/pdf/pk3_supplement...T-0004-0904.pdf It's YOUR application. Are you here to bad-mouth the government, or to get your wife a visa? Randy, There is no bad-mouthing of the government going on here. It didn't appear that this form was necessary in light of the fact that the information the NVC wanted from this form they already had anyway from the petition AND that GUZ said they no longer use the form and have no use for it. I don't understand why you have to appear hostile and argumentative in your posts. I'll do what I need to do to help my wife get her visa and come here to the USA, with or without help from you OR anyone else who feels it is necessary to adopt a sarcastic, condescending, belligerant or overly critical tone in any posted response. If you'd like to offer your help or opinion that's fine and it's always welcome. Maybe it's the way you word your replies but you come across as a stern father figure and I find it unnecessary and over the top on any point you are trying to make.

It would be great to actually hear from the NVC on this, because I know of a couple other people who didn't send this form. They didn't see it in the required document info links for the electronic processing, either, so it is not an easy thing to find or know about. My guess is, that my emails will go into the Great Abyss and we'll be no closer to solving this issue than any other ones where we need direction/info from our government...

Better read the directions ! http://travel.state.gov/pdf/pk3_supplement...T-0004-0904.pdf Randy, Check this out, from earlier in this post: QUOTE(DavidZixuan @ Aug 27 2006, 07:57 PM) QUOTE(scott1956 @ Aug 27 2006, 07:55 PM) Yeah I just got my DS-230 last week and NVC is still including the supplemental form even though GUZ supposedly isn't using it anymore Since I asked GUZ in the first place, I'll post again for them to clarify NVC using it... And GUZ's Response, CR1s can ignore any P3 supplement: QUOTE(USCONGUZ @ Sep 15 2006, 04:51 AM) The Consulate no longer uses the P3 supplemental sheet in question. NVC may still be sending them out with their packets, but again, we don't need them on our end here! I don't know, if GUZ doesn't need the form or info from this form then maybe the NVC just doesn't know it's not necessary at the consulate level. But, I did send them the completed form as they asked. If I hear anything from them in regards to this issue I'll post what they say.

Sure thing! You're more than welcome, and best of luck to you! BTW, just for information's sake here in CFL, I sent a cut-and-paste email copy of Guangzhou's response from the post about GUZ not using or needing the P3 Supplemental Information Sheet, to the NVC. Maybe the electronic processing thing is so new that some minor tweaking needs to be done by them. At best, it may eliminate future electronic filers from having to mess with this unnecessary form.

I printed out the forms that needed to be signed, signed them, and then scanned them back into a saved file. It was the saved files with the signatures which I emailed to the NVC. In the Army it was always ok to write "Original Signed" into the signature block but were prepared to present the original signature at a later date. I don't know if the NVC or the rest of the government will abide by that, and I wasn't going to take the chance. I think the electronic processing is so new that nobody really has a grip on the exact procedures. It all depends on the luck of the draw on whom you get as an NVC operator, and possibly an NVC caseworker also. The GUZ interview process is where it really matters-whatever you sent the NVC just be sure that the originals are present at the interview. How did you organize applicant's documents and petitioner's documents? Did you scan and combine ALL applicant's docuemnts in to ONE PDF file or keep each individual document as one file and then zip ALL files into one zipped file and send to NVCGuangzhou@state.gov? Another question: Did you put a check list or cover sheet in the front of all documents so that the VO will know what documents in the file? Thanks a lot! All documents pertaining to myself, the Petitioner, were scanned and sent in a couple compressed files which were identified in the body of the email message as "Petitioner Documents". All beneficiary documents were identified as such in the body of the emails that contained documents pertaining to my wife, and were sent to the NVC that way. Yes, I drew up a cover sheet/checklist that I put right on top of the I-864 documents, tax return copies, IRS transcripts, etc. and tabbed each exhibit for quick/easy reference for my wife when she is asked by the VO to present them. I also enclosed the barcoded forms and receipts for the AOS and IV fee payments along with all the financial-related documents. When I go to China before my wife's interview, I will have expandable/tabbed folders to put all of our documents in and have checklists showing what is in each folder so she can find the documents quickly. I'll organize everything for her before the interview and make sure she knows what she has and where it is. I am snail-mailing the hard copies of the I-864 and related papers to my wife, already organized and tabbed. She can look them over and familiarize while we wait for our interview date to be set.

This is interesting. I didn't include one of these forms when I emailed all the documents to the NVC to finish our electronic processing for our CR-1. This afternoon I received an email from the NVC that they want me to complete the P3 Supplemental Information Form and then email it to them so their processing of our electronic CR-1 can be completed. How are you going to fill it out? And who is supposed to sign it? The beneficiary signs and dates the form. I've already downloaded the actual form, and then made up another paper with the questions on it on Wordpad, and left enough space between the 6 questions to write in the info they wanted. Then, I emailed it to my wife in China. She downloaded and printed it and signed and dated the actual form where indicated, then filled out the additional page I sent her, and scanned and emailed both pages back to me. She will keep her original downloaded copies to show at her interview. Her scanned signature is good enough for the electronic processing. If it weren't for questions #3 and 4, that ask for her name and then address to be written in Chinese character, I could have done the form myself. Obviously, I can't write in Chinese character. This year before leaving her in China I had her sign her name about 20 times on a blank piece of paper. When I've needed her signature on a form I just used an Exacto knife and cut one of the signatures out and pasted it onto the form. Since everything I used this method on was sent by electronic processing it doesn't show as a cut-and-paste thing. But I made sure she got a copy of all forms like this, and that she actually signs the original copy she is keeping for her interview. I should have gotten her to do the same thing with her name in Chinese character but I didn't know I would need that, at that time. I had previously taken 2 copies of the G-325A (and DS-230) with me when I went to China and got her to actually sign those ahead of our filing, and they were the ones I used in the original petitions. They are the only originally-signed documents we've used right off the bat...

This is interesting. I didn't include one of these forms when I emailed all the documents to the NVC to finish our electronic processing for our CR-1. This afternoon I received an email from the NVC that they want me to complete the P3 Supplemental Information Form and then email it to them so their processing of our electronic CR-1 can be completed.

I printed out the forms that needed to be signed, signed them, and then scanned them back into a saved file. It was the saved files with the signatures which I emailed to the NVC. In the Army it was always ok to write "Original Signed" into the signature block but were prepared to present the original signature at a later date. I don't know if the NVC or the rest of the government will abide by that, and I wasn't going to take the chance. I think the electronic processing is so new that nobody really has a grip on the exact procedures. It all depends on the luck of the draw on whom you get as an NVC operator, and possibly an NVC caseworker also. The GUZ interview process is where it really matters-whatever you sent the NVC just be sure that the originals are present at the interview.

Yes - they seem to be pretty loose with the sequence of events, and the "from the beneficiary" idea, which has been somewhat reliably confirmed. The only hint they give to this is when they talk about the DS-3032 as being something that "you" attach to the OPT-IN email What I've heard is that once you have been OPT'ed IN to the electronic processing, you will receive an email containing your GZO number and directions about what to do next. Each step will then get a response telling you what to do next. The kicker is waiting for the response, and not getting accurate information from the operators, who make the assumption that you are a paper customer. The GZO number is different from the original GUZ number (the numbers are different, not just the prefix) The only difference in the case numbers for us was: the prefix of GUZ vs GZO, and the last three numbers. The number of 2009 following the prefix (GZO) was the same, then the next three numbers were the same also. The very last three were different, as I assume these are Guangzhou's numbers for the electronic processing cases.

Once I got the GUZ case number I went online and paid the AOS and IV fees. Then, I wrote the DS-3032 email for my wife and sent it to her, where she simply 'forwarded' it to the NVC requesting that we be allowed to OPTIN to the electronic processing. Once the AOS and IV fees were showing as PAID I printed copies of the payment notices with the barcodes, and also scanned them into my computer as PDF files. I then started calling the NVC to see if we were assigned the new GZO number. After about a week I called again and the operator gave me the new GZO number over the phone. She then must have authorized the email notification from the NVC because I then received the GZO email notice in my email about 15 minutes after I spoke with her. Once I had the GZO number, I went to the State Dept website that specifies which documents get sent to the NVC for the AOS package and also which civil documents are sent. There are 2 different catagories. I had to convert all the document files from JPEG to PDF, which I did and then emailed them as compressed files to the NVC this past weekend. Now, I am waiting for an email confirmation from them saying that all the files were received and if there is anything else they need me to send to them. I didn't have any problems with them accepting our email request to OPTIN to the electronic processing or giving us the GZO number, even though we have an attorney on record. And as far as I know at this moment, I didn't have any issues with them accepting the documents that I emailed to them even though there is an attorney on record. One thing though, when I first started calling the NVC to get the GUZ number, on my first call the operator verified our contact info including email. I did NOT tell her that we had an attorney of record involved in the case-another CFL member who also went through the electronic process told me that IF you tell the NVC operator there is an attorney on record and give their contact info, then they will NOT accept anything unless it is emailed from the attorney, unless you remove the attorney from your case.

The nice lady is wrong. The instructions tell you to mail the DS-3032 and request optin to the electronic processing to the post-specific electronic processing email addresses. You did this. You should have received an auto-response email from NVCGuangzhou@state.gov that said allow 7-10 working days for a reply. It will come soon if you sent it last Wednesday. Hello Whome, I really appreciate your quick response!!! I double checked the auto-response from NVCGuangzhou@state.gov, it did mention: "The NVC has received your e-mail. We are currently processing in the order of receipt. Please allow 10 business days for a response. Thank you for your patience." I do not know why I did not see the 10 business days..... Anyway, last night after called NVC, I emailed DS-2032 to NVCInquiry@state.gov, this morning, I received the following: "The NVC has received the Agent of Choice selection. The Immigrant Visa Application (DS 230) processing fee bill will be sent to the designated agent on the case. The fee must be paid according to the instructions before the instruction packet will be sent". Here is my situation, last Wednesday, I sent an email to NVCGuangzhou@state.gov and requested to opt to the Electronic Processing, on the same day, I have paid the AOS fee $70.00 online before I got new case number. Do you think I am still in Paper Processing since I already paid AOS fee without new case number assigned? Do I need to wait for the new case number before I go further documents filing? Thank you again! You are ok with already paying the AOS fee. Once they give you the new electronic processing number they will switch everything over. However, if it was me, I would wait to do anything else until you get the new number. That being said others have gone ahead and been ok I think. I got mine in 9 working days... Hello Whome, Thank you so much!! I totally agree with you. I am waiting for the new GZO number then..... Best wishes to your application! Wait until you get that new GZO case number before you do anything else...that will keep things simple.

Call the NVC at: 603-334-0700, push 1, then push 5 and wait for an operator. When they answer they will want your case number and name, birthdates and email addresses of both beneficiary and petitioner. Then, ask them if they have the new case number for electronic processing. I actually got the new case number by calling BEFORE I got the email telling me what the new number was, and they sent me the new case number email about 15 minutes AFTER I talked to the NVC operator on the phone... Good Luck

My heart goes out to these girls. I also personally know a Chinese woman who came here with her daughter and married a naturalized Pakistani who treats her like dirt, and mentally and emotionally abuses both her and her daughter. This woman has a heart of gold and puts up with his crap, not wanting to do anything or take steps against him because she feels sorry for him and doesn't want to cause him problems-she continues to put him first instead of looking out for herself. All she wants is a husband who will take care of her and treat her and her daughter well and with a little respect-and she currently has a second daughter in the process of coming here to join her mother and sister (her GUZ interview is 11/9). I ask her why she continues to stay there and put up with the abuse, especially when she is bringing her other daughter here and SHE will also be subjected to this torture. Her answer? "I have nowhere else to go. I gave up everything when I left China." It puts blood in my eyes....

You know Randy, that's the real kicker. If you marry your Chinese lady anywhere else but China and you go for a K-3, you HAVE to interview in the country where you were married, according to US law. But in the case of Hong Kong-and probably other places too although CFL only deals with China (and Hong Kong)-then you're automatically branded as trying to circumvent Guangzhou. All of the time and effort spent on a K-3 is a total waste because you're NOT going to get a fair interview-just one that 'dots the i and crosses the t' as per the consulate's obligation, and you're told to go (back) to GUZ. You can forget the idea of telling the truth even if your reason was only that you had never been there before, heard it was nice and wanted to get married somewhere more exotic than your local Justice of the Peace. So if you want to marry and honeymoon in Hong Kong then you're guilty of 'consulate shopping' even though US law requires you to interview there. You have to have some kind of ties to Hong Kong, like family living there, in order for it to be accepted as a legit reason for marrying there by the HK consulate. That's horsecrap! I once got married in Las Vegas although I didn't have any ties to anyone there, yet that marriage was never questioned by anyone. So really, why should the government dissent on the motives of a visa- petitioning couple who married in a place that neither person had any ties to if they don't care where a domestic couple marries? Splinterman

No, it doesn't worry me, Dan. It's what I had planned to do anyway. I thought it was valuable to those other folks who married in Hong Kong as to what explanation they were going to offer to the GUZ VO when they are asked "Why did you marry in Hong Kong instead of China?" And, for reasons I'm trying to find out why now, Mr. Roth suggests withdrawing the K-3 instead of simply withholding the P3 papers until after the CR-1 in GUZ is conducted. My thought on attending the GUZ CR-1 interview instead of proceeding with the K-3 in HK was that the fact alone that a couple was interviewing in GUZ on the CR-1 should already be explanation enough that they (the couple) were not intending to circumvent Guangzhou in the first place. Marriages usually coincide with honeymoons, and when US citizens are on a short vacation schedule when they visit their loved ones in China, it shouldn't be unheard of or suspect that they marry AND honeymoon in Hong Kong... Splinterman

A question there also - do they specify somewhere that it should be a pdf file, or would a jpeg or other format work also? I believe I read that they will accept ONLY PDF files-no other format. See this link for more info: http://travel.state.gov/visa/visa_4409.html However, I have a question of my own if someone can answer it...We've emailed to OPTIN for the electronic processing for our CR-1 in Guangzhou, and attached our DS-3032 to the email as was directed. Now, we haven't received any confirmation email back, or our new electronic processing case number which should start with GZO. Do we wait until we get that new case number to email our documents like the I-864 and tax returns, etc., before we email the documents, or can we begin emailing the documents now while using the old case number. Our AOS and IV fees have already been confirmed as paid. Thanks, Splinterman

Attorney John Roth recently posted this advice this on his site: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 Response to web blog query re Hong Kong processing Anonymous says: John, I remember you telling me NOT to get married in Hong Kong back in April, but I "went with the herd" and did it anyway. Now people are saying that HK changed its policies and is being really tough with PRCs married in China. MY K-3 has been approved and CR1 should be approved soon (did electronic processing), but I'm scared to death of HK. Should I write them a letter saying I wasn't trying to avoid Guangzhou when I got married in HK? First, Hong Kong has not changed its policies. The same people are there as were there earlier this year and the policies are all the same, as far as we can tell. The problem with getting married in a third country in order to avoid the consulate of the beneficiary¡¯s home country is that it is almost ALWAYS a bad idea. It¡¯s a case of being ¡°too clever by half¡±. I posted something about this earlier in the blog (see Filing K-3 at Third Country Post After K-1 Denial). OK, what to do? The first thing to understand is that you get only one bite at the apple. Either your I-130 petition will be reviewed or the K-3. Normally, you would pick the K-3 because it¡¯s faster. My view is that you will have a better chance of approval if you withdraw the K-3 and just go to Guangzhou for the I-130 interview (plus the bonus that after entry on the I-130 you will not have to go through with the adjustment of status process, work authorization, travel document, another affidavit of support, etc. etc., which IS the case with the K-3). Count on being asked by the Consular Officer in Guangzhou why you married in Hong Kong rather than on the mainland (the more natural choice, since your wife¡¯s relatives are more close at hand). Do NOT lie and claim you had some personal/romantic/practical/whatever reason to get married in Hong Kong if none exists, or if you are ¡°puffing¡± a rather weak reason to get married there. As I¡¯ve said before, consular officers may be misguided in their policies from time to time, but they are most definitely not stupid and they usually see through bogus reasoning and rationalizations. When asked, the best answer is the honest one ¨C ¡°some people were recommending it earlier this year as a way around the problems at Guangzhou, but in the end we decided not to go that route,¡± or something like this. Consular offices tend to be pleasantly surprised by such candor, and, by being frank even when it¡¯s painful, you will have enhanced your credibility for other questions answered during the interview.

There was more to the issue of HK's denying them than the language barrier and no common ties to Hong Kong. If I remember correctly from his posting, they told Brokenheart that since his wife 'confessed' that they married in HK to avoid interviewing for the K-3 in Guanghzou that they were consulate shopping, and that they should activate their I-130 and go back to Guangzhou. Here's a recent item of note in Attorney John Roth's website on interviewing in Hong Kong after marrying there: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 Response to web blog query re Hong Kong processing Anonymous says: John, I remember you telling me NOT to get married in Hong Kong back in April, but I "went with the herd" and did it anyway. Now people are saying that HK changed its policies and is being really tough with PRCs married in China. MY K-3 has been approved and CR1 should be approved soon (did electronic processing), but I'm scared to death of HK. Should I write them a letter saying I wasn't trying to avoid Guangzhou when I got married in HK? First, Hong Kong has not changed its policies. The same people are there as were there earlier this year and the policies are all the same, as far as we can tell. The problem with getting married in a third country in order to avoid the consulate of the beneficiary¡¯s home country is that it is almost ALWAYS a bad idea. It¡¯s a case of being ¡°too clever by half¡±. I posted something about this earlier in the blog (see Filing K-3 at Third Country Post After K-1 Denial). OK, what to do? The first thing to understand is that you get only one bite at the apple. Either your I-130 petition will be reviewed or the K-3. Normally, you would pick the K-3 because it¡¯s faster. My view is that you will have a better chance of approval if you withdraw the K-3 and just go to Guangzhou for the I-130 interview (plus the bonus that after entry on the I-130 you will not have to go through with the adjustment of status process, work authorization, travel document, another affidavit of support, etc. etc., which IS the case with the K-3). Count on being asked by the Consular Officer in Guangzhou why you married in Hong Kong rather than on the mainland (the more natural choice, since your wife¡¯s relatives are more close at hand). Do NOT lie and claim you had some personal/romantic/practical/whatever reason to get married in Hong Kong if none exists, or if you are ¡°puffing¡± a rather weak reason to get married there. As I¡¯ve said before, consular officers may be misguided in their policies from time to time, but they are most definitely not stupid and they usually see through bogus reasoning and rationalizations. When asked, the best answer is the honest one ¨C ¡°some people were recommending it earlier this year as a way around the problems at Guangzhou, but in the end we decided not to go that route,¡± or something like this. Consular offices tend to be pleasantly surprised by such candor, and, by being frank even when it¡¯s painful, you will have enhanced your credibility for other questions answered during the interview. Splinterman

Great Information.. Thanks you. I registered the two cases are right now they are in the Initial Review status. Can you help me better understand a few other things. Once the I-130 and I-129F NOA2 is received will there be just once case number? When checking your cases status on USCIS at what point do they send out the NOA2. Is the timeframe from beginning to end? From when the first filing is done tell the visa is issued. The current time frame for CSC is listed at 5 months. Is this just for the initial review before the NOA2 is sent or is it from beginning to end for the K3 process? {edit} Fixed broken quote tags No, you'll get separate case numbers for the I-130 and the I-129F. Once the cases are approved you'll get an e-mail alert for each case. On our petitions, I checked the online case status almost every day and there were no updates or anything indicating that the CSC was even looking at the petitions. Then one day, the emails show up and I was informed they were 'approved'. When the cases went to the NVC I called them every couple of days which irked at least one operator because she told me "It can take up to 90 days for us to receive a case." I'm sure there is a note placed in the file each time you call them. I last called on Friday with no information that they had even been received. The next day I received in the snail mail a letter from the NVC, dated 2 Oct, that said that our K-3 was approved and being sent to the Hong Kong consulate in the next week. I knew they approved both K-3 and CR-1 together so I called that afternoon and sure enough, their system showed that our CR-1 was approved also, and they gave me the I-130 case number. My point is, the NVC telephonic case status service didn't show any approval and I only found out when I received the letter on the K-3, I think several days later. That prompted me to call and ask about the I-130 Although many people tell you to look at the timelines on the USCIS website to get an idea how long your petition will take to work it's way through, I would tell you to pay more attention to the timelines of the folks on CFL for a more accurate idea. Ours was fast-and I think it's because of all the extra people USCIS hired last year, plus the number of petitions filed was down this year, so the ones they received I believe have worked their way through the system much quicker. Check out my timeline for an idea of how fast things went for us. The best thing I think you can do is to make sure that your email alert is turned on on the Case Status page of the USCIS website. BTW, when I got the emails about our case being approved the one about the I-129F was first, sent at 7:30 EST and the I-130 approval went out at 11:30pm EST. Same day, within hours of one another. Hope this helps! Don't worry, the time goes faster than you think...! Splinterman