splinterman

Click of 'Format', 'Font', and set the color to black (or change your ink cartridge) I tried this, and it doesn't work. The ink cartridge is brand new. For some reason, I can't get this to print out in any color but the blue color of the call history log

I need to copy my Yahoo Call History to help prove my relationship with my SO. We were given a white slip on 8/21 and the file is now on it's way back to the NVC and then USCIS, so I must now prepare for the motion or appeal on the file. It's time to work on the evidence. I've been able to copy the Call History as a Wordpad document. But, when it prints out the print is so light it is not legible. Does anyone know how to somehow alter the color of the font to black or somehow make the file print so it is easily read? I've asked this question at a local computer store and they were unable to help me. Thre HAS to be a way to do this...HELP, LOL!

Congratulations NEWDAY, I hope everything goes smoothly and you can begin your new life together as soon as possible!!

georgeandli, about how long did it take for your file to get back to USCIS after your NOID? Also, after USCIS re-affirmed your petition did they send the actual file back to GUZ or did they just send an order to re-interview? I was wondering how long it took from the time of the USCIS re-approval to the time of the next GUZ interview...?

Georgeandli, can you tell us the details and what happened in your case? There seems to be an ever-increasing number of us who are landing in the same boat. The point was made that if you get the white on a K-1, and you opt for a K-3 or CR-1, the reasons that killed the K-1 could also be a factor in the K-3/CR-1 filing. Has anyone out there ever gotten a white on a K-1 and had USCIS re-affirm the petition, had it sent back to GUZ, and then been successful in getting a pink on that petition? Has anyone gone this route and even gotten a 2nd K-1 interview after their petition was returned to GUZ? One last question: does anyone have any idea how long the current acting chief of the IV section has been in that position or have noticed when the rules seemed to change at GUZ?

CONGRATULATIONS, and BEST WISHES TO BOTH OF YOU!!!!!

From my understanding, once GUZ gives you the answer on a white slip that the case is not reviewable, no additional evidence will be accepted and the case will be returned to USCIS, no lawyer or anyone else (like a congressman) can get them to reconsider their decision and keep the file in GUZ. Where the lawyer's expertise comes is knowing what to do once the case is returned to USCIS. If you don't get a NOID letter and USCIS lets the petition sit, a lawyer can only guess what the VO was looking at and why GUZ refused the visa. If you re-file your petition because the old one expired or you change directions with a different type of petition, you still have to know what the previous reason for denial was so you can anticipate and front-load your new petition with evidence to overcome whatever deficiency they noted. Does anyone disagree with this?

Can someone tell me how a lawyer in GUZ can file an appeal and keep a denied application there and a US lawyer cannot do the same thing? We have a lawyer here and my SO got a white slip. The lawyer sent a brief asking for the file to stay there and for the IV to reconsider the decision. My senator has also contacted GUZ on my behalf witha copy of the brief and asked for the same thing. The senator's office at least got a reply but nothing more than the same info on my SO's white slip while the lawyer has received no response-no review and no appeal, until the file is returned to USCIS... whenever it gets there... So how can a lawyer in GUZ do something that a US lawyer cannot do? If this is possible, is it a conflict of interest to have the US lawyer as general counsel and hire Paget as an on-site attorney to keep the file there? Any lawyers or law students out there to answer this question? I'd just like to know if this is an option. I'm thinking that if it WAS possible, why wouldn't any US lawyers have a 'partnership' with a GUZ lawyer to be more effective, other for greed and financial reasons? Thanks, Splinterman

I just wanted to thank everyone here who offered their comments and support to our bit of bad news. Before we began this journey I was naive and it never even occurred to me that this scenario was a possibility but I become more educated as I read the stories of the other member's journeys. I wish I could say that it's encouraging but it's not. What I do now understand is why many people enter this country illegally. It seems that the only people who are penalized are the ones who try to do things the right way. Crosby, Stills and Nash's song "Immigration Man" takes on a whole new meaning! But I am thankful to have the goodwill and support of all of you! I wish everyone here success in their own personal journey and leave you all with the comment that it is more than ironic that all of us here fund and empower this heartless government through our taxes, only to be treated with contempt and disrespect by it's agents who have ensured that they cannot be held accountable for the months and years of agonizing misery that they so willingly heap upon as many of us as they possibly can. There has got to be a better way...

Warren, it sounds like your attorney has taken the proper steps to keep the file in GZ, hopefully it will be kept there and allow your to present the evidence she had in her possession. Getting married is one option, however you will be forced to deal with the recommendation GZ has made before they will allow a CR-1 or K-3 to get moving. In the past those who have fought the NOID and won received a return interview fairly soon after it was sent back to GZ. I know that GUZ is supposed to keep a copy of the file at post when they return it to USCIS. After I deal with the NOID with USCIS, and assuming I'm successful there, does USCIS simply email or cable GUZ to resume the processing or is the file again sent snail mail back to GUZ? Has anyone here gone this same route and been successful in getting the pink? If so, what have you found as the reason why GUZ originally refused the visa, and how long did it take you to overcome the NOID? Any info would be appreciated! Thanks, Warren

No, I didn't. When did you send it? Thanks, Warren September 22. Perhaps it is in your spam? Yes, it was-I just found it. Not good news, huh?

No, I didn't. When did you send it? Did you send it to;xxxxxxxxxxxxx@verizon.net? Thanks, Warren

My SO had her interview at GUZ on 8/21/08. They asked her about 8 questions and for my I-134 and some photos of us, then refused the visa for lack of a bona fide relationship without asking if she had any other evidence-which she had a ton of. She's given no reason for refusal (just the INA 221(g)), no opportunity to present more evidence and the white says the file will be returned to USCIS for review and possible revocation. The lawyer has sent emails to GUZ to ask the file stay there, filed a brief sent it to the IV Chief and the congressman and the congressman has also requested the file stay in GUZ until a review can be completed. No answer at all from GUZ to anything. Can anyone answer some questions for me? I'd like to know what happens from here, about how long it takes for the file to get back to USCIS, any phone numbers or websites I can use to track the latest status of the file, and generally any advice about this latest action and what my options are. Any comments/advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Private email is xxxxxxxxx@verizon.net Thanks, Warren (removed personal email address, please send email addresses using PM)

Gary, my fiancee interviewed in Guangzhou on 8/21/08 and the first 2 questions she was asked were, "Do you know your fiancee had been arrested?" (in 1994 for a simple summary offense, that was declared to the DHS in my petition and subsequently approved by them. There were no other arrests since then) followed by, "You know this and you still want to marry him?" and she answered "yes" to both questions. She was then asked a few other questions: where do you work and what do you do, where does your fiancee work and what does he do, how did you meet/when did you first meet?, how many times has your fiancee come to China? She was only asked to show my I-134 form and some pictures. I had hired an immigration lawyer at the beginning of our visa petition process and he had advised her to show them ONLY what they ask to see-if they don't ask for it, don't show it. She had a folder full of emails, phone bills, receipts for purchases we made together in Nanning, boarding passes from a few flights we took together to visit Beijing during my trip last summer, etc. but they didn't ask her for any additional evidence of our relationship. At the end of the interview they refused her a visa, telling her that under INA 221 (g) we didn't have a 'bona fide relationship, and that the file would be returned to USCIS in the States for review and possible revocation. There was no mention of any allowance on their part for her to provide additional evidence and as a matter of fact they stated on the refusal form that no additional evidence would be considered at Guangzhou, nor would they respond to any emails, phone calls or correspondence from either Lijuan or me. If we wanted any more details about the reasons for refusal we would have to wait until the file was received by USCIS in the States. At this time, my lawyer is preparing a legal brief arguing the legality of what they have done and what they are now doing (returning the file to USCIS without allowance for submission of additional evidence at Guangzhou) and I have also contacted my Senator's office, who has sent 2 emails to Guangzhou asking them to hold the file until the attorney can respond with the brief. It is disconcerting that the senator has no authority at all over the Consulate to get them to hold the file until a response can be provided. It is equally discouraging that the Consulate Officer is in violation of the INA and the FAM and there is nothing that can be done to check the Consulate's action which will result in additional months of delay until USCIS again approves the petition and the Consulate schedules my fiancee for another interview. I firmly believe that the Interview Officer knew well before my fiancee attended her interview that she would be refused a visa, and I also believe that the 14 year-old minor summary conviction played a large part in the visa refusal, even though it had been declared in the original petition to the DHS and had been approved by them. The fact that they asked only a few questions and only to see my I-134 and some photos, without asking if there was any other evidence of our relationship tells me that they already had their minds made up and were just going through the motions by granting her an interview. Since the refusal I have been doing a lot of research on the INA, the CFR and the FAM regulations and it is obvious they have violated the law AND their own procedural regulations by not allowing my fiancee a time period to respond to their concern of the lack of a 'bona fide' relationship with additional evidence and also returning the file to USCIS without a review. A visa refusal under INA 221(g) is nothing more than a generic reason for a refusal that masks another real reason that the ConOffs know they do not have the authority to use, so they give this BS reason that has the effect of adding more time (and possibly additional expense) to the process. They know in the end that they will have to grant the visa but for now it lets them off the hook. It is interesting to note that USCIS internal correspondence actually prohibits the refusal of a K-1 visa on the premise of the NATURE of a relationship between the Petitioner and the Beneficiary, unless the ConOff has discovered clear and compelling evidence of misrepresentation or fraud, or evidence of same that was not available to the DHS at the time the original petition was approved. For those of you who have not retained the services of a good immigration attorney, if you have been 'victimized' by the State Department as I have been, you are facing additional delay and possibly even additional costs in overcoming this hurdle if you have been swept up in the INA 221(g) game. If you reach this point, you may want to consider hiring a lawyer to get past this hurdle as quickly as possible. A last piece of information I would like to share with everyone is if you are or have already begun the process of a K-1 or K-3 visa application, an excellent resource that can answer all your "what if' questions is the book "Fiance and Marriage Visas" by Llona Bray, available on the NOLO website for about $24.00. It's worth the money. It has sample forms and instructions on which forms you will need and how to complete them, line item by line item. I apologize to everyone for the length of this post but I think it is important to others involved in the visa process, especially those at the Consulate Interview stage or those shortly to go through it, to be as detailed and precise as I can be in order to provide you the benefits of those who have gone before you and discovered what lies in store. To all of you I wish you the best of luck!! Sincerely, Warren Splinterman@verizon.net