LET OUR VOICES BE HEARD

[jtaylo69]

Ok all, this just in from my email box.

 

As of 9:30am EST, I haver recieved numerous replies from almost every senetor's offices, & from 8 TV Stations from accross the USA. They all had one major simularities.

 

Each one, (especially the Senators, Govonors) if we really want for Congress to stand up & take note of our situation, then each & every one of us in whom it is, has or will affect, we all need to basicly send the same thing to our very own Goverment Official from our respected state that we live in. But do not just send it to one. To get your letter noticed, (Better chances) You would have a greater chance by submitting the letter to your Governor, Senator, & Congessman.

 

The reason for this is because they all have that one chain of command, and each one has to stay in touch with the other in order to get the best all around.

 

So, here is a copy of what I had sent to them earlier. You may want to add to it of your own experiances, or what ever. But as Congesman Burgess had said to me, "Please be sure that ALL OF OUR correspondace needs to be basicly the same & on the Same Issue".

 

I will be including a link to where you may find your Senators Email addresses so as to make it a little easier for you. But what ever you do, DO NOT JUST SIT THERE THINKING SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO IT FOR YOU!!! TO MAKE THIS THING ISSUE TO GET NOTICED, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US MUST STEP UP & SEND THE SAME MESSAGE

 

TO FIND YOUR SENETOR click this link

http://www.senate.gov/index.htm

 

THE HOUSE OF REPRESENATIVE click this link

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml & http://www.house.gov/writerep/

 

& If that isn't enough for you, WHY NOT GO STRAIGHT TO THE TOP CHAIR HIMSELF ^ The President's personal email

 

President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov

Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov

 

TO LOCATE EVERY TV & RADIO STATION'S EMAIL ADDRESS <within the continental USA> Click here

 

http://www.globalcomputing.com/TVContent.htm

 

TO LOCATE EVREY NEWSPAPER'S EMAIL ADDRESS > click here

 

http://www.globalcomputing.com/NewsContent.htm & <here>

 

http://www.refdesk.com/paper.html#natnews

 

 

 

 

NOW, THE LETTER'S

 

Dear Sirs

 

I've always admired your relentless search for truth

in governmental issues. . With that in mind I wish to

call your attention to the deplorable American

Consulate in Guangzhou China, and reference the

arrogant bordering on hostile attitude they often

subject Americans to when they try to immigrate their

legitimate fiancées through the l fiancee visa

process. These are honest sincere Americans who are in

bona fide relationships, and have met all requirements

posted on USCIS and other official immigration related

websites. This consulate has one of the worst

reputations in the world. This consulate often does

not follow its own guidelines, such as notifying

petitioners of actions in a timely fashion. They are

excessively clandestine, usually communicating with

petitioners only through e-mail or a pay per call

information bank established in China. Most domestic

telephone information(here and at the consulate

itself) is accessed through the telephone menu systems

that rarely, if never) give any useful information.

 

It's all endless delays. A process that is supposed to

take 8 or 9 months can easily turn into a 14 month to

18 month nightmare fraught with multiple variations in

policy practice. It seems this government body fails

to comply with its own rules, as if they are

deliberately trying to make the idea of fiancee

immigration uninviting and difficult as possible...an

attitude that is contradiction to Americas “ open door

policy"..

 

Even after completing all name and security checks,

and the after a final “successful” interview, this

consulate has the gall to tell fiancees they are

approved for their visa , only to turn them down the

very next day when the fiancee returns to pick up it

up!!..You can imagine how devastating , humiliating,

and unjust this is…. its just plain wrong!! .

 

There are many other horror stories to be shared

regarding this consulate, and there are multitudes of

honest, law-abiding, compliant Americans and their

fiancees getting treated like second class citizens by

their own government.

 

If you wish for in an in depth understanding, I

suggest you visit www.candleforlove.com...an on-line

community of Americans going through the

aforementioned process. Log on and ask any question

you like…You will receive plenty of info from people

at different stages of the process.

 

Covering the topic of fiancée visas now would be

timely, appropriate, and put the spotlight squarely on

the absolute “trainwreck” that is the American

consulate in Guangzhou, Guangdong China.

 

I understand things are stricter since 9-11, but the

in the broadest sense, government is utilizing that

unfortunate event as a blanket excuse for all their

inconsistency, indifference, delays, and incompetence.

Americans attempting to accomplish immigration of

loved ones legally deserve better treatment and more

answers.... Real threats to our national security

continue to filter through our borders with relative

ease, while consulates like the one in Guangzhou

routinely "terrorize" innocent couples with needless

red tape ..As a proud American I salute our flag

rather than use it as a blanket to cover all my

shortcomings.....Guangzhou must eventually come clean

and deal with honest petitioners and beneficiaries in

a more dignified and respectful manner.

 

 

Contact me at my e-mail if you find the aforementioned

topic worthwhile for your show…I would certainly

appreciate any opportunity to speak with you

personally.

 

 

 

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Below is a copy of an email that was sent to the

person who's responcibility is to see that we get fair

treatment in this case. As of today, we have yet to

hear even a thank you. Therefore, I, on behalf of our

Online Community Group, we are comming to you and

begging for your help.

 

Sincearly,

 

The Candle For Love Online Community

 

 

Dear Ms. Harty:

 

We are writing to you as members of “Candle For Love”

a growing online community of nearly 2,000 law

abiding, taxpaying U.S. Citizens. We are joined

together by the common bond of a lengthy and

unpredictable wait to receive immigrant visas for our

spouses, fiancé(e)s and children. The purpose of this

letter is to address a few of the current immigrant

visa processing issues at the American Consulate in

Guangzhou. These issues have caused, what we feel are

unnecessary hardships for our loved ones and us. We

ask that you take a moment to read our honest and

concise assessment of the current situation and of

some problems that exist. We ask that you consider

possible solutions.

 

1) Wait Times for K1 & K3 Visas:

The wait time for the K-1 Fiancé(e) visa and K3 Spouse

visa, being processed at the U.S. consulate in

Guangzhou, is the longest in the world. Our members

wait an average of 13-months without a good reason or

an understanding as to why it takes so long. We would

deeply appreciate your help in investigating, why this

particular consulate has such long delays. Perhaps you

can better help us to understand this situation,

especially when considering K type visas processed in

most U.S. consulates around the world are completed

significantly faster than those processed at the U.S.

consulate in Guangzhou.

 

China has the world’s largest population. Isn’t it

time that a country of this size and importance has

more than one consulate to handle immigrant visas?

There are countries of smaller populations and less

immigrant demand, which utilize multiple U.S.

consulates for this purpose.

 

Recently, some of our members have had the pleasure of

hearing you speak in Beijing about the improvements in

handling student and business visas from China.

Typically, over 180,000 student visas per year are

processed and issued in a matter of days or weeks. We

are sure that you would consider the petitions of U.S.

citizens for their loved ones, to be at least of equal

priority as those from Chinese citizens.

 

2) Denials without appeal:

In our opinion, many of our member’s spouses and

fiancé(e)s are being denied visas for no apparent

reason. After the denial, the U.S. citizen is not

permitted an opportunity to consult with a member of

the IV Unit to help resolve the issues related to the

denials. The specific reason for the denial is often

unstated and unknown. Your help in resolving this

communication deficit would be greatly appreciated.

 

3) White Slips changed to Blue Slips:

There are a growing number of cases where white

acceptance slips are being given to the wife or

fiancé(e) of a U.S. Citizen upon completion of the

interview. When they return the next day to pick up

their visa, they instead receive a blue rejection slip

and no visa. This is done without explanation or

consultation. This is very confusing to all of us in

the “Candle For Love” online visa community. We would

like to give our support to your visa officers. This

becomes increasingly difficult however, when they

overrule themselves with no apparent or stated reason.

In our opinion, this reflects negatively on the

consulate staff. Again these cases directly affect the

lives and futures of US Citizens and their loved ones.

 

The above listed items are simply a few of the issues

we wish to bring to your attention at this time.

 

We ask for no special treatment. We ask only for the

same and equal consideration, care and service, that

anyone requesting a visa in China would and should

expect. As the U.S. consulate in China is considered

to be U.S. soil, we ask that everyone who enters be

treated with the basic human rights of dignity,

respect, and non-discrimination that is fundamental to

our way of life.

 

We appreciate you taking time out of your busy

schedule to read about our concerns. Collectively, our

members have a wealth of information about the family

visa process and how it interfaces with the U.S.

consulate at Guangzhou. If there is anything that we

can do to assist you in your monumental task, please

feel free to contact us at any time.

 

Respectfully,

The Members of “Candle For Love.”

 

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PLEASE!!! EVERYONE!! I BEG OF YOU, IF EACH ONE OF US WILL DO OUR INDIVIDUAL PLEA TO AT LEAST 4 OF EACH OF THE 6 CATAGORIES LISTED ABOVE (congress, govornors, tv, newspaper, radio, AND THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF, THERE WILL BE NO REASON IN THE WORLD FOR OUR VOICE NOT TO BE HEARD

 

I know this is getting attention as my email boxes are beginning to fill up, so you can just imagine what kind of attention our case will get if we all do our small part

 

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Just so that we can keep track of what is being done, if you would, please leave your information as to who, what, where & when that you contacted. This way we will have a record to show, (Should we get called before the house of Senate) just how important this issue is.

 

 

Thanks

 

JT

[Luo_Bin_&_Jialu]

JT,

 

 

Thank you for you efforts. I wish you the best of luck.

[Alex]

Thank you JT..your effort is greatly appreciated. I do not want future beneficiaries and petitioners to go through the hell my so and I have experienced.

[jtaylo69]

Just an update as to who or what companies have responded:

 

WSOC - Charlotte NC - will begin to investigate

USA TODAY - Would be interested in the story if they recieve more emails form others who are also experiancing these same issues.

 

WRAL - Raliegh, NC - Would like an oppertunity to question the Govornor and get his side of the issue

 

Arlen Specter - Senator for Pennsylvania - request that more information from those this is affecting. (Petition) If there is enough, she promises to take this to the house & investigate.

 

Joseph R. Biden, Jr. - Delaware- United States Senator - Intresed in hearing more from those from his state who is affected by this"Delawareans

seeking immediate assistance are urged to call my office in Wilmington (302)573-6345".

 

Richard C. Shelby - Alabama-United States Senator - "I interested in receiving the more information of those Alabamians that this matter is affecting. Should I recieve enough to warrent an investigation I promise to make my response to my constituents a top priority of my office. "

 

Daniel K. Akaka - Hawaii - United States Senator -"Thank you for your recent e-mail message to my office. Your views are very important to me and I appreciate you taking the time to bring this matter to my attention. Unfortunately you are not a resident of the State of Hawaii and there is not much that I can do for you. But should your group have those who do live in this state, I will be more than happy to take this matter to heart and do all that I can to see to it that their rights are preserved"

 

 

 

So there you have it folks, I have gottent the ball started for you in those states, so it is up to you follow up. These Senators are just waiting for enough of you to stand up & voice your concerns. Do you have what it takes to make your Dreams become a Reality? It's your choice.

 

 

I will continue to keep you posted as the responces come in. But Please, do not leave it all up to me. I WILL NEED YOUR HELP if we are all going to win this thing. I am not doing this just for me, I am doing it for everyone here as well as for those yet to come.

 

So Please, Join me in fighting & preserving Our rights to have our loved ones close to our sides, not inside of a computer.

[hypoclear]

Dear Hearing Voices;

 

When did you first start hearing these voices? Are they male or female voices? Are they friendly voices?

 

Do you talk often with these voices? Can they speak other languages?

 

Have they given you any good stock tips? Do you believe they work for the government? Have any mentioned the name Dubya or Bubba?

 

DO you have health insurance? What is your co-pay?

 

Ok send along your ID number and best of luck with your voices.

 

Maark and Bea and Elizabeth

[hypoclear]

Actually J.. I'm just up to a little mischief pay no attention...

 

NOW for the rest of you PAY ATTENTION!!!!! that was a damned good response that J has gotten and if this doesn't get you off your butt.. seems nothing will. I am very sure this will be comfort in your old age when you can tell your kids.. "yeah I didn't do a damn thing and Proud(?) of it!"

 

Now get out there and say something!

 

Mark and Bea and Elizabeth

[NY-Viking]

NOW or NOT?

[jtaylo69]

NOW or NOT?

It should have been "NOW" Sorry for the TYPO.

 

NOW FOR TODAY'S UPDATE

 

JUDD GREGG - New Hampshire - United States Senator - Thank you for contacting my office and bringing this serious isssue to my attention. It really breaks my heart to see that a matter such as this, falling through the cracks of our not so perfect judicial system. Please forward this to everyone that you know who have been affected by this unexcuseable error and who reside in the state of New Hampshire and instruct them to Please resubmit the original text of your message with a New Hampshire postal address included at the top of the body of the message, and I promise to you,as a not only as a Senator, but also as a fellow American to do all that I can to fight this wrong.Mailbox_Gregg@gregg.senate.gov

 

RUSS FEINGOLD - Wisconsin - United States Senator Dear Mr Taylor. Normally I do not handle the enormous e-mail that I recieve each day personally. But due to the seriousness of your issue at hand, it is quite obvious to me, that you are not the only person who has been affected by this matter. Please have all of those that you know who reside in Wisconsin, contact me personally and have them express their issues, both as a an individual and how it has affected your community as a group. I am including in this email a full list of my offices and their telephone numbers to make it a little more easier for your online community to contact me. The sooner we begin working on this matter, the sooner we just might be able to bring all of your loved ones home.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Russell D. Feingold

United States Senator

 

506 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING

WASHINGTON DC 20510-4904

PH) 202-224-5323

TDD) 202-224-1280

 

1600 ASPEN COMMONS

ROOM 100

MIDDLETON WI 53562-3506

PH) 608-828-1200

TDD) 608-828-1215

 

425 STATE STREET ROOM

225 LACROSSE WI 54601-3341

PH) 608-782-5585

 

517 E WISCONSIN AVE

#408

MILWAUKEE WI 53202-4504

PH) 414-276-7282

 

401 5TH STREET

ROOM 410

WAUSAU WI 54403

PH) 715-848-5660

 

1640 MAIN STREET

GREEN BAY WI 54302-7508

PH) 920-465-7508

Russell_Feingold@feingold.senate.gov

 

 

There you have it folks. Now if I can get their attention, Just imagine how much this issue at hand will really get the BIG Boys attention once all of us come together;)

 

Now Get out there & Let your Voices be heard!

 

Oh Yeah, Before I forget, Not only do I hear voices, I can also a many of new changes cooming ahead for us (IF We all do our Part)

[Carl]

Well I too have been actively e-mailing Maura Hartly, my representative in congress, both senators in my state (TX) and even the president himself.

 

I am especially interested in keeping the pressure on Senator Cornyn from Texas since he sits on the subcommitee that deals with immigration and naturalization. Lets "keep up the skeer" on them until something is done.

[jtaylo69]

I'm impressed with your responses, JT. Rarely do congressional folks actually respond to the subject, they are much like GZ. Best anyone usually gets is a gratuitous, hope you vote for me response.

 

I hope members will follow your lead and push to raise the level of concern. You've started a very promising project.

Thank you, But it also helps to have had a few previous reletives to have worked in the Governmet sector. Here is just a brief summory:

 

Zachary Taylor - 22nd President of the United States

12th under the US Constitution

 

Thomas Jefferson - 13th US President

3rd under the 1787 Constitution

 

Not to mention I've been told that our family has also had like 10 others that had served in both the Senate & the House.

 

In the email the I had sent, I just mearly mentioned a few of the names of previous names, their previous duties as well as their addresses (that were never publicly published to prove authenticity) and voiced how appaled I was to see that our current day government was permitting to let this issue go un-attended and how could a nation so great in other issues, allow such a thing to happen. I also made mention that if they were too afraid to go up against the big boys, that I had no problem is solving the issue for them (CALLED THE MEDIA - in which I included about 400 Names & addresses of the Various TV, Radio & News Papers) - I then asked them how would it look for thier offices come election time, when such a serious issue of our civil rights were going un-protected and causing our Very Own Citizens to deport themselves to another country just so that they could be with their families.

 

The more and more Americans that end up deporting themselves to another country, the more we not only weaken our country, but we are sending out a very serious Message that we do not protect our own. How do they think that this message to the other countries are going to see this should I submit to those countries the actual Total number of people & families who after being born and raised here, picked up all that they had, and moved their entire families and their bank accounts to another country who welcomed them with open arms, just so that they could keep their families together.

 

 

That was basicly what I have said in each and every email that was sent and judging by the responces, I believe this may have woken up a few of those who have had their back turned away

 

But what the heck, someone has got to stand up and say something and bring the truth to the surface.

[jtaylo69]

Mid-Day Up Date

 

This was posted by boba - member # 1606 today in a wierd Duplicate post of this original post. So in order to keep all of the updates together, I am copying their post here:

 

I sent 4 copies of your letter to Colorado congress men/women. Two to Senators and Two to Congressmen/Women. I also sent one to the local news station I watch in Denver, channel 9news.

 

Boba and Meixiang

 

 

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I-129F receipt date 10/20/2003

I-129F Aproval date 05/20/2003

NVC form letter sent 6/28/2004 Unable to locate case

2nd I-129F receit date 07/17/2004

2nd I-129F aproved 08/11/2004

NVC forwarded case on 09/11/2004

P3 sent on 11/14/2004

P3 forms returned 11/17/2004

Processing done 03/02/2005

Phoned DOS 03/14/2005

Interview sheduled 04/14/2005

P4 arrived 03/15/2005

[NY-Viking]

NOW or NOT?

It should have been "NOW" Sorry for the TYPO.

 

NOW FOR TODAY'S UPDATE

Just trying to give you a hard time ...

 

It did take me a couple reads when I first saw this thread though ...

 

Anyway, great work!

[beijingjenny]

Yes, good work. Perhaps I should write letters playing up that Abe Lincoln is my great uncle?

 

Another idea for those with particularly poignant stories is to submit them to Newsweek's "My Turn" column, instructions here.

 

http://www.msnbc.com/modules/newsweek/info...info_myturn.asp

 

Also, it may sound silly but why not also log onto Oprah.com, or other talks shows, and send a brief description of your plight. I'm sure this kind of show would love the families being separated stories.

[spieder]

Got my email shots out!!! Thanks for your efforts.

[Mengxin]

Actually J.. I'm just up to a little mischief pay no attention...

 

NOW for the rest of you PAY ATTENTION!!!!! that was a damned good response that J has gotten and if this doesn't get you off your butt.. seems nothing will. I am very sure this will be comfort in your old age when you can tell your kids.. "yeah I didn't do a damn thing and  Proud(?) of it!"

 

Now get out there and say something!

 

Mark and Bea and Elizabeth

Don't just do something! Stand There!