jtaylo69 Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Ok all, this just in from my email box. As of 9:30am EST, I haver recieved numerous replies from almost every senetor's offices, & from 8 TV Stations from accross the USA. They all had one major simularities. Each one, (especially the Senators, Govonors) if we really want for Congress to stand up & take note of our situation, then each & every one of us in whom it is, has or will affect, we all need to basicly send the same thing to our very own Goverment Official from our respected state that we live in. But do not just send it to one. To get your letter noticed, (Better chances) You would have a greater chance by submitting the letter to your Governor, Senator, & Congessman. The reason for this is because they all have that one chain of command, and each one has to stay in touch with the other in order to get the best all around. So, here is a copy of what I had sent to them earlier. You may want to add to it of your own experiances, or what ever. But as Congesman Burgess had said to me, "Please be sure that ALL OF OUR correspondace needs to be basicly the same & on the Same Issue". I will be including a link to where you may find your Senators Email addresses so as to make it a little easier for you. But what ever you do, DO NOT JUST SIT THERE THINKING SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO IT FOR YOU!!! TO MAKE THIS THING ISSUE TO GET NOTICED, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US MUST STEP UP & SEND THE SAME MESSAGE TO FIND YOUR SENETOR click this linkhttp://www.senate.gov/index.htm THE HOUSE OF REPRESENATIVE click this linkhttp://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml & http://www.house.gov/writerep/ & If that isn't enough for you, WHY NOT GO STRAIGHT TO THE TOP CHAIR HIMSELF ^ The President's personal email President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov TO LOCATE EVERY TV & RADIO STATION'S EMAIL ADDRESS <within the continental USA> Click here http://www.globalcomputing.com/TVContent.htm TO LOCATE EVREY NEWSPAPER'S EMAIL ADDRESS > click here http://www.globalcomputing.com/NewsContent.htm & <here> http://www.refdesk.com/paper.html#natnews NOW, THE LETTER'S Dear Sirs I've always admired your relentless search for truthin governmental issues. . With that in mind I wish tocall your attention to the deplorable AmericanConsulate in Guangzhou China, and reference thearrogant bordering on hostile attitude they oftensubject Americans to when they try to immigrate theirlegitimate fiancées through the l fiancee visaprocess. These are honest sincere Americans who are inbona fide relationships, and have met all requirementsposted on USCIS and other official immigration relatedwebsites. This consulate has one of the worstreputations in the world. This consulate often doesnot follow its own guidelines, such as notifyingpetitioners of actions in a timely fashion. They areexcessively clandestine, usually communicating withpetitioners only through e-mail or a pay per callinformation bank established in China. Most domestictelephone information(here and at the consulateitself) is accessed through the telephone menu systemsthat rarely, if never) give any useful information. It's all endless delays. A process that is supposed totake 8 or 9 months can easily turn into a 14 month to18 month nightmare fraught with multiple variations inpolicy practice. It seems this government body failsto comply with its own rules, as if they aredeliberately trying to make the idea of fianceeimmigration uninviting and difficult as possible...anattitude that is contradiction to Americas “ open doorpolicy".. Even after completing all name and security checks,and the after a final “successful” interview, thisconsulate has the gall to tell fiancees they areapproved for their visa , only to turn them down thevery next day when the fiancee returns to pick up itup!!..You can imagine how devastating , humiliating,and unjust this is…. its just plain wrong!! . There are many other horror stories to be sharedregarding this consulate, and there are multitudes ofhonest, law-abiding, compliant Americans and theirfiancees getting treated like second class citizens bytheir own government. If you wish for in an in depth understanding, Isuggest you visit www.candleforlove.com...an on-linecommunity of Americans going through theaforementioned process. Log on and ask any questionyou like…You will receive plenty of info from peopleat different stages of the process. Covering the topic of fiancée visas now would betimely, appropriate, and put the spotlight squarely onthe absolute “trainwreck” that is the Americanconsulate in Guangzhou, Guangdong China. I understand things are stricter since 9-11, but thein the broadest sense, government is utilizing thatunfortunate event as a blanket excuse for all theirinconsistency, indifference, delays, and incompetence.Americans attempting to accomplish immigration ofloved ones legally deserve better treatment and moreanswers.... Real threats to our national securitycontinue to filter through our borders with relativeease, while consulates like the one in Guangzhouroutinely "terrorize" innocent couples with needlessred tape ..As a proud American I salute our flagrather than use it as a blanket to cover all myshortcomings.....Guangzhou must eventually come cleanand deal with honest petitioners and beneficiaries ina more dignified and respectful manner. Contact me at my e-mail if you find the aforementionedtopic worthwhile for your show…I would certainlyappreciate any opportunity to speak with youpersonally. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Below is a copy of an email that was sent to theperson who's responcibility is to see that we get fairtreatment in this case. As of today, we have yet tohear even a thank you. Therefore, I, on behalf of ourOnline Community Group, we are comming to you andbegging for your help. Sincearly, The Candle For Love Online Community Dear Ms. Harty: We are writing to you as members of “Candle For Love”a growing online community of nearly 2,000 lawabiding, taxpaying U.S. Citizens. We are joinedtogether by the common bond of a lengthy andunpredictable wait to receive immigrant visas for ourspouses, fiancé(e)s and children. The purpose of thisletter is to address a few of the current immigrantvisa processing issues at the American Consulate inGuangzhou. These issues have caused, what we feel areunnecessary hardships for our loved ones and us. Weask that you take a moment to read our honest andconcise assessment of the current situation and ofsome problems that exist. We ask that you considerpossible solutions. 1) Wait Times for K1 & K3 Visas:The wait time for the K-1 Fiancé(e) visa and K3 Spousevisa, being processed at the U.S. consulate inGuangzhou, is the longest in the world. Our memberswait an average of 13-months without a good reason oran understanding as to why it takes so long. We woulddeeply appreciate your help in investigating, why thisparticular consulate has such long delays. Perhaps youcan better help us to understand this situation,especially when considering K type visas processed inmost U.S. consulates around the world are completedsignificantly faster than those processed at the U.S.consulate in Guangzhou. China has the world’s largest population. Isn’t ittime that a country of this size and importance hasmore than one consulate to handle immigrant visas?There are countries of smaller populations and lessimmigrant demand, which utilize multiple U.S.consulates for this purpose. Recently, some of our members have had the pleasure ofhearing you speak in Beijing about the improvements inhandling student and business visas from China.Typically, over 180,000 student visas per year areprocessed and issued in a matter of days or weeks. Weare sure that you would consider the petitions of U.S.citizens for their loved ones, to be at least of equalpriority as those from Chinese citizens. 2) Denials without appeal:In our opinion, many of our member’s spouses andfiancé(e)s are being denied visas for no apparentreason. After the denial, the U.S. citizen is notpermitted an opportunity to consult with a member ofthe IV Unit to help resolve the issues related to thedenials. The specific reason for the denial is oftenunstated and unknown. Your help in resolving thiscommunication deficit would be greatly appreciated. 3) White Slips changed to Blue Slips:There are a growing number of cases where whiteacceptance slips are being given to the wife orfiancé(e) of a U.S. Citizen upon completion of theinterview. When they return the next day to pick uptheir visa, they instead receive a blue rejection slipand no visa. This is done without explanation orconsultation. This is very confusing to all of us inthe “Candle For Love” online visa community. We wouldlike to give our support to your visa officers. Thisbecomes increasingly difficult however, when theyoverrule themselves with no apparent or stated reason.In our opinion, this reflects negatively on theconsulate staff. Again these cases directly affect thelives and futures of US Citizens and their loved ones. The above listed items are simply a few of the issueswe wish to bring to your attention at this time. We ask for no special treatment. We ask only for thesame and equal consideration, care and service, thatanyone requesting a visa in China would and shouldexpect. As the U.S. consulate in China is consideredto be U.S. soil, we ask that everyone who enters betreated with the basic human rights of dignity,respect, and non-discrimination that is fundamental toour way of life. We appreciate you taking time out of your busyschedule to read about our concerns. Collectively, ourmembers have a wealth of information about the familyvisa process and how it interfaces with the U.S.consulate at Guangzhou. If there is anything that wecan do to assist you in your monumental task, pleasefeel free to contact us at any time. Respectfully,The Members of “Candle For Love.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE!!! EVERYONE!! I BEG OF YOU, IF EACH ONE OF US WILL DO OUR INDIVIDUAL PLEA TO AT LEAST 4 OF EACH OF THE 6 CATAGORIES LISTED ABOVE (congress, govornors, tv, newspaper, radio, AND THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF, THERE WILL BE NO REASON IN THE WORLD FOR OUR VOICE NOT TO BE HEARD I know this is getting attention as my email boxes are beginning to fill up, so you can just imagine what kind of attention our case will get if we all do our small part --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just so that we can keep track of what is being done, if you would, please leave your information as to who, what, where & when that you contacted. This way we will have a record to show, (Should we get called before the house of Senate) just how important this issue is. Thanks JT Link to comment
Luo_Bin_&_Jialu Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 JT, Thank you for you efforts. I wish you the best of luck. Link to comment
Alex Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Thank you JT..your effort is greatly appreciated. I do not want future beneficiaries and petitioners to go through the hell my so and I have experienced. Link to comment
jtaylo69 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Just an update as to who or what companies have responded: WSOC - Charlotte NC - will begin to investigateUSA TODAY - Would be interested in the story if they recieve more emails form others who are also experiancing these same issues. WRAL - Raliegh, NC - Would like an oppertunity to question the Govornor and get his side of the issue Arlen Specter - Senator for Pennsylvania - request that more information from those this is affecting. (Petition) If there is enough, she promises to take this to the house & investigate. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. - Delaware- United States Senator - Intresed in hearing more from those from his state who is affected by this"Delawareans seeking immediate assistance are urged to call my office in Wilmington (302)573-6345". Richard C. Shelby - Alabama-United States Senator - "I interested in receiving the more information of those Alabamians that this matter is affecting. Should I recieve enough to warrent an investigation I promise to make my response to my constituents a top priority of my office. " Daniel K. Akaka - Hawaii - United States Senator -"Thank you for your recent e-mail message to my office. Your views are very important to me and I appreciate you taking the time to bring this matter to my attention. Unfortunately you are not a resident of the State of Hawaii and there is not much that I can do for you. But should your group have those who do live in this state, I will be more than happy to take this matter to heart and do all that I can to see to it that their rights are preserved" So there you have it folks, I have gottent the ball started for you in those states, so it is up to you follow up. These Senators are just waiting for enough of you to stand up & voice your concerns. Do you have what it takes to make your Dreams become a Reality? It's your choice. I will continue to keep you posted as the responces come in. But Please, do not leave it all up to me. I WILL NEED YOUR HELP if we are all going to win this thing. I am not doing this just for me, I am doing it for everyone here as well as for those yet to come. So Please, Join me in fighting & preserving Our rights to have our loved ones close to our sides, not inside of a computer. Link to comment
hypoclear Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Dear Hearing Voices; When did you first start hearing these voices? Are they male or female voices? Are they friendly voices? Do you talk often with these voices? Can they speak other languages? Have they given you any good stock tips? Do you believe they work for the government? Have any mentioned the name Dubya or Bubba? DO you have health insurance? What is your co-pay? Ok send along your ID number and best of luck with your voices. Maark and Bea and Elizabeth Link to comment
hypoclear Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Actually J.. I'm just up to a little mischief pay no attention... NOW for the rest of you PAY ATTENTION!!!!! that was a damned good response that J has gotten and if this doesn't get you off your butt.. seems nothing will. I am very sure this will be comfort in your old age when you can tell your kids.. "yeah I didn't do a damn thing and Proud(?) of it!" Now get out there and say something! Mark and Bea and Elizabeth Link to comment
jtaylo69 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 NOW or NOT?It should have been "NOW" Sorry for the TYPO. NOW FOR TODAY'S UPDATE JUDD GREGG - New Hampshire - United States Senator - Thank you for contacting my office and bringing this serious isssue to my attention. It really breaks my heart to see that a matter such as this, falling through the cracks of our not so perfect judicial system. Please forward this to everyone that you know who have been affected by this unexcuseable error and who reside in the state of New Hampshire and instruct them to Please resubmit the original text of your message with a New Hampshire postal address included at the top of the body of the message, and I promise to you,as a not only as a Senator, but also as a fellow American to do all that I can to fight this wrong.Mailbox_Gregg@gregg.senate.gov RUSS FEINGOLD - Wisconsin - United States Senator Dear Mr Taylor. Normally I do not handle the enormous e-mail that I recieve each day personally. But due to the seriousness of your issue at hand, it is quite obvious to me, that you are not the only person who has been affected by this matter. Please have all of those that you know who reside in Wisconsin, contact me personally and have them express their issues, both as a an individual and how it has affected your community as a group. I am including in this email a full list of my offices and their telephone numbers to make it a little more easier for your online community to contact me. The sooner we begin working on this matter, the sooner we just might be able to bring all of your loved ones home. Sincerely, Russell D. Feingold United States Senator 506 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510-4904 PH) 202-224-5323 TDD) 202-224-1280 1600 ASPEN COMMONS ROOM 100 MIDDLETON WI 53562-3506 PH) 608-828-1200 TDD) 608-828-1215 425 STATE STREET ROOM 225 LACROSSE WI 54601-3341 PH) 608-782-5585 517 E WISCONSIN AVE #408 MILWAUKEE WI 53202-4504 PH) 414-276-7282 401 5TH STREET ROOM 410 WAUSAU WI 54403 PH) 715-848-5660 1640 MAIN STREET GREEN BAY WI 54302-7508 PH) 920-465-7508Russell_Feingold@feingold.senate.gov There you have it folks. Now if I can get their attention, Just imagine how much this issue at hand will really get the BIG Boys attention once all of us come together;) Now Get out there & Let your Voices be heard! Oh Yeah, Before I forget, Not only do I hear voices, I can also a many of new changes cooming ahead for us (IF We all do our Part) Link to comment
Carl Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Well I too have been actively e-mailing Maura Hartly, my representative in congress, both senators in my state (TX) and even the president himself. I am especially interested in keeping the pressure on Senator Cornyn from Texas since he sits on the subcommitee that deals with immigration and naturalization. Lets "keep up the skeer" on them until something is done. Link to comment
jtaylo69 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 I'm impressed with your responses, JT. Rarely do congressional folks actually respond to the subject, they are much like GZ. Best anyone usually gets is a gratuitous, hope you vote for me response. I hope members will follow your lead and push to raise the level of concern. You've started a very promising project.Thank you, But it also helps to have had a few previous reletives to have worked in the Governmet sector. Here is just a brief summory: Zachary Taylor - 22nd President of the United States12th under the US Constitution Thomas Jefferson - 13th US President3rd under the 1787 Constitution Not to mention I've been told that our family has also had like 10 others that had served in both the Senate & the House. In the email the I had sent, I just mearly mentioned a few of the names of previous names, their previous duties as well as their addresses (that were never publicly published to prove authenticity) and voiced how appaled I was to see that our current day government was permitting to let this issue go un-attended and how could a nation so great in other issues, allow such a thing to happen. I also made mention that if they were too afraid to go up against the big boys, that I had no problem is solving the issue for them (CALLED THE MEDIA - in which I included about 400 Names & addresses of the Various TV, Radio & News Papers) - I then asked them how would it look for thier offices come election time, when such a serious issue of our civil rights were going un-protected and causing our Very Own Citizens to deport themselves to another country just so that they could be with their families. The more and more Americans that end up deporting themselves to another country, the more we not only weaken our country, but we are sending out a very serious Message that we do not protect our own. How do they think that this message to the other countries are going to see this should I submit to those countries the actual Total number of people & families who after being born and raised here, picked up all that they had, and moved their entire families and their bank accounts to another country who welcomed them with open arms, just so that they could keep their families together. That was basicly what I have said in each and every email that was sent and judging by the responces, I believe this may have woken up a few of those who have had their back turned away But what the heck, someone has got to stand up and say something and bring the truth to the surface. Link to comment
jtaylo69 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Mid-Day Up Date This was posted by boba - member # 1606 today in a wierd Duplicate post of this original post. So in order to keep all of the updates together, I am copying their post here: I sent 4 copies of your letter to Colorado congress men/women. Two to Senators and Two to Congressmen/Women. I also sent one to the local news station I watch in Denver, channel 9news. Boba and Meixiang --------------------I-129F receipt date 10/20/2003I-129F Aproval date 05/20/2003NVC form letter sent 6/28/2004 Unable to locate case2nd I-129F receit date 07/17/20042nd I-129F aproved 08/11/2004NVC forwarded case on 09/11/2004P3 sent on 11/14/2004P3 forms returned 11/17/2004Processing done 03/02/2005Phoned DOS 03/14/2005Interview sheduled 04/14/2005P4 arrived 03/15/2005 Link to comment
NY-Viking Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 NOW or NOT?It should have been "NOW" Sorry for the TYPO. NOW FOR TODAY'S UPDATEJust trying to give you a hard time ... It did take me a couple reads when I first saw this thread though ... Anyway, great work! Link to comment
beijingjenny Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Yes, good work. Perhaps I should write letters playing up that Abe Lincoln is my great uncle? Another idea for those with particularly poignant stories is to submit them to Newsweek's "My Turn" column, instructions here. http://www.msnbc.com/modules/newsweek/info...info_myturn.asp Also, it may sound silly but why not also log onto Oprah.com, or other talks shows, and send a brief description of your plight. I'm sure this kind of show would love the families being separated stories. Link to comment
spieder Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Got my email shots out!!! Thanks for your efforts. Link to comment
Mengxin Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Actually J.. I'm just up to a little mischief pay no attention... NOW for the rest of you PAY ATTENTION!!!!! that was a damned good response that J has gotten and if this doesn't get you off your butt.. seems nothing will. I am very sure this will be comfort in your old age when you can tell your kids.. "yeah I didn't do a damn thing and Proud(?) of it!" Now get out there and say something! Mark and Bea and ElizabethDon't just do something! Stand There! Link to comment
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