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Hi,

 

My wife and I entered the U.S. on 07/01/2010, she entered on a CR-1 visa and was awarded a 2 year green card. We have moved maybe 3 times since that time, and every time I've done a change of address for both her and myself as the petitioner.

 

I'm getting ready to fill out the I-751 as the 90 days until 2 year anniversary is coming up, but her company has decided to relocate her North of Dallas, so we'll be moving again. We're going up on spring break to look at places where we can live, but at this time the company doesn't know which store they will put her in, nor do we know an address where we will be living. What should I do about the I-751? I called USCIS, but the guy wasn't very nice and spoke to me like I was wasting his time, so I wanted to get confirmation of what he said. He told me to just file the form and when we get the address then to call them and notify them so they could update the address which could take up to 15 days for confirmation during a pending case. Seems like doing that could lead to some confusion and problems if you ask me.

 

My second question is that my wife is currently pregnant, and the baby's due date is 07/04/2012 (no it wasn't planned! :P) Obviously that's 3 days after her 2 year anniversary although due dates are an estimate. Can I just send a copy of the ultrasound pictures which have her name on the pictures to show that she is pregnant, or will they notate that at the BIO scan? If the baby decides to come out early and we get the birth certificate while the case is still pending, is it worth sending it to them?

 

That's all I can think of for now... Thank you,

Tom

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  1. About the moving. When exactly is the planned move?
     
    If before the 2 year expires file the I-751 after moving.
     
    If have not settled on an address before having to file then perhaps get a PO BOX in the area where you plan on moving to and use this as your mailing address on I-751, and use your current living address as where you are living, and then once settled in Dallas, file an AR-11 and I-865 while the I-751 is pending.
     
    If you get a BIO appointment at your old address, the letter should arrive at the PO BOX, and simply look up the nearest ASC or Field Office, schedule an info-pass appointment before BIO appointment and explain that had moved and they should do the BIO at the info-pass appointment.
     
    You can even set up a PO BOX in USPS.COM before moving, and then visit the office to get the box key.
  2. About baby.
     
    If you have evidence of pregnancy, attach this to the I-751.
    Dont bother trying to add things to the case after you have mailed the I-751 it will not get added to the case.

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Tom, where "north of Dallas"? Plano? Frisco?

 

The current plan is Frisco, but we're going to be looking at McKinney, Plano, and Denton (have some friends in Denton, but not too crazy about raising a child in a college town). Are you up there? Yuan is my wife's family name :)

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  1. About the moving. When exactly is the planned move?
     
    If before the 2 year expires file the I-751 after moving.
     
    If have not settled on an address before having to file then perhaps get a PO BOX in the area where you plan on moving to and use this as your mailing address on I-751, and use your current living address as where you are living, and then once settled in Dallas, file an AR-11 and I-865 while the I-751 is pending.
     
    If you get a BIO appointment at your old address, the letter should arrive at the PO BOX, and simply look up the nearest ASC or Field Office, schedule an info-pass appointment before BIO appointment and explain that had moved and they should do the BIO at the info-pass appointment.
     
    You can even set up a PO BOX in USPS.COM before moving, and then visit the office to get the box key

 

90 days prior to the expiration would be April 1st - Is it okay to send it after that point?

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Mail any time within the 90 days prior to expiration, does not mean precicely at the 90 day mark. We filed at 10 days before it expired.

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Mail any time within the 90 days prior to expiration, does not mean precicely at the 90 day mark. We filed at 10 days before it expired.

 

Well, it's been awhile since I made this original post. Instead of Dallas area we're now living in the Austin area (Round Rock to be exact). We have an apartment, and I've changed my wife's address online through the ar-11 form. I've also printed out a I-865 for change of sponsor's address which I will be sending out.

 

I'm now beginning to fill out the I-751 and have a few questions:

 

1. Under Part 3. Additional Information About You question 9 it says "Have you resided at any other address since you became a permanent resident? (If "Yes", attach a list of all addresses and dates.) - Do I just type these up on a paper and attach it to the I-751 or is there another form I need to fill out?

 

2. Under Part 5. Information About Your Children-List All Your Children (attach other sheets if necessary). - My wife is 32 weeks pregnant, so the child hasn't been birthed yet. Do I just leave this section empty or do I need to write something here? I plan to attach the Ultrasound Images that we've been given (which have my wife's name and date of ultrasound on them) as well as a letter I obtained from her original OB-GYN stating that we received pre-natal care there and I accompanied her every visit. I may ask her new OB-GYN (since we moved) for a letter as well.

 

2b. Should I get those letters from the OB-GYN's notarized? I plan to have them copied as I don't want to send originals. So my thinking is to have the notary copy them and notarize the copy showing it's identical. Perhaps unnecessary though - this is why I'm asking.

 

No more questions on the form itself, it's pretty straight forward.

 

Thanks for your time!

~Tom

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1) 3.9 Yes make a list on a separate sheet of all prior address starting with date of residency, at the top of that sheet make note A# I-751 Part 3 Question 9

 

2) You don not count or need to mention any unborn. Just not "None" on first line.

 

2b) Just send a photo-copy, no need to notarize or certify any copies.

 

Only things that should be notarized are sworn affidavits of friends or family attesting to knowing your relationship.

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Do we report address changes every time we move?? Li's green card expires in August this year.

 

That is my understanding, report change of address each time. Wenyan has the 10 year card (expiring in 2021) and we changed address when we bought our home and moved in. It would seem that address changes are to be made until they become citizens...at least that is my understanding, and what I'm gonna do if we move again.Uncle Sammy jes loves knowin' where his LPR's are....and their sponsors.

 

tsap seui

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Do we report address changes every time we move?? Li's green card expires in August this year.

Every time you move you file an AR-11 and an I-865

 

The requirement for the I-865 ends when the I-864 is no longer in force.

  • Green-card holder becomes citizen
  • Green-card holder works and is credited with 40 quarters of work
  • Green-card holder dies
  • Green-card holder leaves the country and gives up residency.

 

The Requirement for AR-11 ends when immigrant becomes a citizen or relinquishes residency.

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Do we report address changes every time we move?? Li's green card expires in August this year.

Every time you move you file an AR-11 and an I-865

 

The requirement for the I-865 ends when the I-864 is no longer in force.

  • Green-card holder becomes citizen
  • Green-card holder works and is credited with 40 quarters of work
  • Green-card holder dies
  • Green-card holder leaves the country and gives up residency.

The Requirement for AR-11 ends when immigrant becomes a citizen or relinquishes residency.

 

Yea, I knew about this, but I do have one question in addition to this.

 

My Father, who is my wife's co-sponsor, moved and I had him fill out an I-865 as well which he received the notice showing the change was made as well.

 

Question: When co-sponsors move, do they also need to file an I-865 like I had my Father do? Or was the unnecessary?

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Any one who files an I864 with USCIS is responsible to file an I865 whenever they move, this includes joint sponsors.

 

If was just a co sponsor for a K visa and provided an I134 however did not act as joint sponsor when adjusting status and did not provide an I864 then they would not be responsible to provide an I865 when moving.

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We got our I-751 packet completed, made 2 copies of the whole packet, and got it shipped off on 06/11/2012 w/ a tracking confirmation number which shows it was delivered to the Vermont Service Center on 06/13/2012 here is the copy of the cover letter which lists everything that was included (personal info and names have been edited out)

 

United States Department of Homeland Security

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

Vermont Service Center

75 Lower Welden St.

P.O. Box 200

St. Albans, VT 05479-0001

 

Date: 06/09/2012

 

I-751 JOINT PETITION TO REMOVE CONDITIONS OF STATUS

FOR: <EDITED>

A #: <EDITED>

 

Cover Letter for I-751 JOINT PETITION TO REMOVE CONDITIONS OF STATUS

 

Dear USCIS examiner:

 

Enclosed please find a I-751 joint petition for removal of conditions of permanent resident status regarding my wife, <EDITED>. Please also find enclosed a check for $590.00 ($505 fee for this form and $85 fee for biometric). My wife entered the United States through LAX International Airport on a CR1 visa on July 1, 2010. We married on September 9, 2009 in Wuhan, Hubei, China. Her conditional resident status expires on July 1, 2012. We are happily living together and expecting our first child together, who is due on 07/04/2012. We humbly request that this petition be accepted for removal of conditions for my wife, <EDITED> so that we may continue our life together and raise our family.

 

Enclosed also please find the following documents to verify the status of our marriage and ongoing relationship:

I-751 Form Signed by <EDITED>

• Attachment Letter for Part 3 Question 1

• Attachment Addresses for Part 3 Question 9

• Letter explaining address on some of our supporting documents

• Four original affidavit letters written by U.S. citizen friends and family

• Copy of envelopes letters came in showing our present address

• Copy of <EDITED>’s permanent resident card, expiring on July 1, 2012.

• Copy of <EDITED> and <EDITED>’s drivers’ licenses.

• Copy of <EDITED>’s employee name tag from <EDITED> showing the name “<EDITED>”.

• Copy of <EDITED>’s paycheck from <EDITED> showing the name “<EDITED>”.

• Copy of IRS tax transcripts for 2010 and 2011; years we (<EDITED>) have filed jointly.

• Copy of envelope IRS Tax Transcripts came in showing our current address.

• Copy of Wells Fargo Letterhead showing joint accounts.

• Copy of Wells Fargo Relationship Change Application showing when <EDITED> was added to <EDITED>’s (U.S. Citizen) bank account.

• Copy of 6 months’ worth of bank account statements showing joint accounts.

• Copy of Geico Auto Insurance showing a joint policy.

• Copy of prior health insurance through <EDITED>’s employer (<EDITED>) showing joint coverage.

• Copy of electricity statements from our residents – two in <EDITED>’s name (Bounce Energy, and Magic Valley Electric), one in <EDITED>’s name (Champion Energy Service).

• Copy of Water Works System Application for Residential Service showing joint account.

• Copy of letter from OB-GYN showing pre-natal care provided to <EDITED> in <EDITED>, TX.

• Copy of letter from OB-GYN showing pre-natal care provided to <EDITED> in <EDITED>, TX.

• Copy of ultrasound photos of our child in womb from 20 weeks in <EDITED>’s office, 30 weeks in <EDITED>’s office and 35 weeks in <EDITED>’s office. Child’s due date is 07/04/2012 which is 3 days after <EDITED>’s permanent residence card expires.

• Copy of leasing contract from Apartments in <EDITED>, TX showing Joint Occupancy.

• Copy of leasing contract from Rental Duplex in <EDITED>, TX showing Joint Occupancy.

• Copy of leasing contract from Apartments in <EDITED>, TX showing Joint Occupancy.

• Copy of Toyota Financial Services finance contract for our BMW 328i showing joint co-signers.

• Copy of photos with friends and family from 2010 through 2012.

 

The copies of documents submitted are exact photocopies of unaltered documents and photos, and I agree to submit originals to an immigrant officer if requested. You may feel free to inquire at any of the sources of enclosed documentation for validity of their statements, and you are always welcome to visit our home should you ever desire to do so.

 

Please advise me if you have any further questions for me or my wife; my wife is signing as well to acknowledge the petition contents and also remains available for any questions. Signatures were executed on date shown above.

 

Sincerely,

 

Wish us luck in hoping that everything passes! Spent several months compiling everything.

 

Oh, We tried mailing it on Sunday by going to Office Depot, and they weren't able to do it because the address listed both a physical and po box - it was a grand opening store, so perhaps they didn't know how but they were unable to assist us, although they did let us keep the priority mail envelope, 2 pieces of cardboard to make it more rigid, 4 rubber bands to hold the packet and photo package together and a paper clip to hold the check free of charge. We had to take it to a post office on Monday - so there's a tip for anyone, just go to the Post Office to avoid any headaches.

 

Thank you for all the help dnoblett and everyone one else that contributed! Will keep you updated when we hear back!

 

~Thomas

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We received the letter stating that her green-card has been extended for one more year, and to wait for another letter stating when to do the bio-metrics. Curious thing about the letter is it says to send in your supporting evidence - found that odd as you send everything (or at least we did) before we even received the letter.

 

The money has also been withdrawn from our bank account.

 

My wife is scheduled for a C-Section on Thursday so I'm hoping the bio-metric isn't on that day.

 

If we wanted to go visit my family in South Texas upon driving back we would need to go through a check point - would presenting this paper after her GC expired be sufficient?

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