rogerluli Posted March 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Retiring in China I know you're always trying to be helpful here Randy... But methinks you somehow missed the point here... Link to comment
david_dawei Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I don't think so... try re-treads if it helps... Link to comment
Jay & Ping Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Retiring in ChinaRandy, you caught me in a weakened state....it took me a minute! Link to comment
Guest Rob & Jin Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I like Tongo or NZ Link to comment
Don Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 (edited) I want to teach at a chinese university and/or consult for chinese companies. They can handle the visa issues and sign the papers i need signed. That is one of the only ways i know to get the longer visas and to not worry about them renewing the visas. Anyone else have additional ideas?Besides working at a tire factory? Edited March 14, 2008 by Don (see edit history) Link to comment
GDBILL Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I want to teach at a chinese university and/or consult for chinese companies. They can handle the visa issues and sign the papers i need signed. That is one of the only ways i know to get the longer visas and to not worry about them renewing the visas. Anyone else have additional ideas?Besides working at a tire factory? In "longer visas" you mean 1 year, right? Your best bet is a university. Chinese companies can rarely get visas for consultants. In fact, to get you a visa you need to be a legitimate full-time employee ... and even then. Link to comment
Li & John Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I have been to two cities in Malaysia. I would rather retire in China based on what I have seen. I would rather retire in China as well or just move there. Link to comment
Guest lilac6451 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Add to this the fact that China is racist. Why do you say Chinese are racist? Link to comment
rogerluli Posted March 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Add to this the fact that China is racist. Why do you say Chinese are racist? Although I did not make the statement...it seems to me than Han Chinese IN GENERAL look down on the minority peoples of China... Link to comment
Dennis143 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Add to this the fact that China is racist. Why do you say Chinese are racist? Although I did not make the statement...it seems to me than Han Chinese IN GENERAL look down on the minority peoples of China... Well...now that it's been asked... Certainly there is racism in all cultures and societies. Tribal allegiances, religious persecution, skin tone discrimination...these aren't unique to just one country. China is no exception. Although us Americans don't see or probably don't relate to Chinese racism like we do or can to racism in America, I see class and skin color distinction and discrimination frequently within my Chinese circle of friends and acquaintances. It's seems to be accepted and understood that it is just the way life IS. Link to comment
Richard & Li Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I want to teach at a chinese university and/or consult for chinese companies. They can handle the visa issues and sign the papers i need signed. That is one of the only ways i know to get the longer visas and to not worry about them renewing the visas. Anyone else have additional ideas?Besides working at a tire factory? The pay is not nearly what we make at American universities. I'll be doing curriculum development for a Chinese university this summer. However, it's through the American 'sister' university. My salary is based on the American university's pay scale (and they're paying for my international air fare and room & board). A Chinese university would never give you a deal like that. (Not even Peking University, which is the highest ranked in China.) That's how I got a 90 day business visa. If you were going to stay and teach you would get a Z type visa, which can be for a longer period of time. I've never had any problem getting visa extensions in China. I have heard (unsubstantiated) that a Chinese 'green card' is next to impossible to get approved. Maybe, they think they have enough people? Link to comment
rogerluli Posted March 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I want to teach at a chinese university and/or consult for chinese companies. They can handle the visa issues and sign the papers i need signed. That is one of the only ways i know to get the longer visas and to not worry about them renewing the visas. Anyone else have additional ideas?Besides working at a tire factory? The pay is not nearly what we make at American universities. I'll be doing curriculum development for a Chinese university this summer. However, it's through the American 'sister' university. My salary is based on the American university's pay scale (and they're paying for my international air fare and room & board). A Chinese university would never give you a deal like that. (Not even Peking University, which is the highest ranked in China.) That's how I got a 90 day business visa. If you were going to stay and teach you would get a Z type visa, which can be for a longer period of time. I've never had any problem getting visa extensions in China. I have heard (unsubstantiated) that a Chinese 'green card' is next to impossible to get approved. Maybe, they think they have enough people? We actually have a member who has achieved the nearly impossible... GZBILL...check out this thread Richard... http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26331 Link to comment
tsap seui Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 The pay for teachers that I have found on a very limited search is 5,500rmb per month and on up, with a few at 3,500rmb (this includes paying for your trip to and from China, meeting you in Beijing and taking you to the city you'll teach in, medical, an apartment and a few other incentives). No, I'm not expecting the medical bene's or the apartment to be very much And, they'll take care of your Z visa. While that isn't up to an american University professors pay, if one MUST compare "apples to oranges" then, I think the american's pay would be pared down substansially by the cost of an american home and the taxes on that home and the cost of living in america. I talk often to another guy on here who is in contact with lots of teachers in China and he's found pay scales in some cities that starts at 12,500 for a few months and if you and the school are happy, then it goes to 16,000 monthly. Seek, and ye shall recieve...maybe. tsap seui Link to comment
Richard & Li Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I wasn't advising against it. Sorry, if I made it sound like that. Teaching at a Chinese university is a great experience. If a person has the opportunity, I'd say "go for it". The salary range you mentioned is about right (although > 10,000 RMB per month would be a lot for a visiting foreign prof.) and they do provide pretty nice living quarters. A professor is a very well respected position in China. In terms of American pay ranges. Between $80K & $100K is about average. You won't get rich doing it, but it's a pretty good job. Link to comment
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