rogerluli

OOps not 2067 when she would be 100...2027,,,😃

Li has been in touch with the PSB in Hunan and Hainan and this is what she found out...For her to become a USC before we return to China is not a problem...We would just both have to get Q visas to enter...Then off to Hunan where they would issue what? a residence permit of some kind, and it would be for 1 or 5 years, a bit odd that choice but whatever...But in 2067 she will be 60 and then it becomes permanent...Or so they say... Since she owns houses in Hunan and Hainan we can reside in either province...If we hadn't bought the Hainan place before then that would not be an option...For several years now only Hainan residents could buy in Hainan but that may change with this 2025 opening up...

I only have one worry in your response and that is that, yes my wife and yours under current SS laws can draw our SS account after we die...But the government has to look for ways to restore the entire SS system to solvency and what if one of those ways will be to cut off payments to non citizens and non permanent residents not living in the US...That, of course, is unknowable today...😶 Thanks very much for your responses...It is most appreciated....

Randy, Is your wife a USC ? I realized that we could register and do all the paperwork in Hunan since she has a house there...and then go to Hainan to live most of the time...They don't keep track of your whereabouts do they...😶

Hainan is the only province I'm going to...Li does have 2 places in her home province of Hunan but I would only stay short term there...Hunan is just as hot as Hainan in the summer but is cold in the winter...Her family and friends can come to Hainan to visit any time, we'll have 2 guest bedrooms...We've just spent the last 10 years wintering in Florida so freezing again is not an option...🥶

Hello all... Haven't been on CFL for years but had several million posts in the old days...Anywho Li and I are thinking about moving to China to live...She is still a Chinese citizen with a US Permanent Residency, I am a USC...She may or may not become a USC before we do this... We have an unfinished apartment in Qionghai, Hainan where we would like to live...I'm only going to do this if it's relatively painless...I see that there is a D Visa for such moves...Is it impossible to get this or what...Li also tells me that rules for Hainan are going to change considerably in 2025 as the CCP intends for Hainan to compete with Hong Kong and Macau... D Issued to those who intend to   reside in China permanently. The original and photocopy of the   Confirmation Form for Foreigner’s Permanent Residence Status

We had that size adjustment issue in Hainan...The company gives out the size but then later the government folks show up and calculate the actual size per their criteria...But it wasn't a big difference...As I recall less than a 10 m2 difference in nearly 200 m2...

Long ago my wife worked for a government company that wholesaled everything for restaurants in her Hunan hometown...She had a small apartment from the company in an old building...When the company was privatized she was able to buy the apartment for next to nothing...She had rented the place out for many years...This was one building of maybe 6 others and they were only 4 stories and had gotten quite decrepit...The only thing good about them was their location...They were right at the city center on a river... Eventually the local government stepped in to redevelop the land...Renters were given the heave ho and owners were able to purchase units in the new development...They were credited with the size of their old units and had to only pay quite low prices for new ones...The old ones were like 50 m2 and the new ones were 100 m2 +...This was all started like 5 years ago now...The plan was for 2 32 story buildings with a few levels of parking and a few commercial levels on the lower floors...Ever since then the owners have been collecting a generous rent subsidy, even though few of them had actually been displaced... Construction was painfully slow...I never visited over that time but it sounded like 2 guys and a wheelbarrow... But lo and behold they did actually get the job done...We had selected a 31st floor unit and had also paid for a parking space...Parking spaces were not cheap, I think it was around 25K US$, but it seemed that as car ownership had exploded in China in the intervening years there were far too few spaces available... The wife was just there and was able to finally get the keys to her unit and was having renovation started and then... It seems that this local government entity had also sold these units to other folks as well... This happened to everybody who had the old apartments...So there are 2 sets of names on ownership papers for many/most units...What fun... All these folks are out protesting every day in front of the government offices...Placards, chants and the whole 9 yards of protest activities... How will it all work out...I'm sure I have no idea... China,,,It's another country...

Unbelievable how quickly everything happened with our I-90...July 20 did Biometrics in Duluth...Today, July 28 got the new 10 year G/C...At the USCIS office they said issuing green cards was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy behind and it could take a YEAR to get it...A lot they know... Li will eventually get her USC but she feels unready yet...

Hi Larry, Great to see you still hanging around...Being on the right side of dirt is a good thingmie, sad that Bobby and Carl and Mark are no longer with us... I think I will never beat my grandfather's 6# 5 1/2 oz largemouth from up here...But I have that fish on my wall so it's okay... The only BIG fish I've caught out of this little lake are 3 14" black crappies... Okay so this one was 15"...

Greetings from Loon Lake in the Northwoods of Indianhead Country Wisconsin...We ultimately decided to renew the green card...A very simple process only made painful by having to fork over 540 sheckels to Uncle Sam... Li had her biometrics done yesterday in Duluth, MN, our nearest USCIS office...We were the only ones there and it took all of 10 minutes to finish up and get the Adit sticker attached to her GC which allows another year of use, or until the new card arrives...Otherwise all is well and hope everyone here is the same... Roger...

Thanks very much for the info guys... It would seem we are pretty safe in applying in July for USC when her GC expires in December...Yes I would certainly want to avoid paying $455 for basically nothing... on top of the N-400 fee... I could mail in the competed application while she is still in China but if she was called in for Biometrics before she got back it could be a problem and really set things back...

Greetings all... It seems that having a green card is nowhere near as secure as was once thought so the wife has finally agreed that she must become a USC...Here's the deal... Her GC expires in December 2018...I read that currently it is taking 5-8 months to get through the process after application...She is going to China in April until July so we cannot apply until she returns I expect...Bottom line is that her GC may have expired before she has gone through the Citizenship process...Is that a big problem... or not...

Are you an expat or an immigrant ??? https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/mar/13/white-people-expats-immigrants-migration

Last year before Luli went back I bought 6 new Zippos per her request...Then she found out that Chinese Customs will not allow them through...I have no links or actual knowledge of same...only 6 lighters sitting in a drawer somewhere...

The only real risk is if you run afoul of the law...Then yes you will be treated as a PRCC and your US citizenship will not help you...If it is merely found out that you are a US citizen by Chinese authorities they will just cancel your passport and hukou...

Doesn't this match up??? 1. Wife leaves US on US passport; 2. Wife arrives Hong Kong on US passport, 3. Wife leaves Hong Kong with Chinese-issued HK travel permit; and 4. Wife arrives China on HK travel permit. Reverse as necessary... Her Chinese passport is never used...

The reason people would want dual citizenship is so that they can work/stay for indefinite periods in either country but also have the right to return to the other country. Perhaps a couple would like to work for 10 years in China, then come back to the U.S., or vice versa. There are also people like RogerLuli who want to retire in China with a Chinese spouse. If his spouse keeps Chinese citizenship and U.S. green card, she will be fine in China for two years with a reentry permit, but then what? She can apply for a new re-entry permit. Then what? And after that, then what? They are retired and there is not an end-date to their stay in China, but she would like to have the door open to the U.S. just in case. (For one thing, once the green card is gone for good, the U.S. would probably not grant her a visitor visa to go see Roger's family.) I thought I heard someone mention me... B) I think using 2 passports is entirely doable but there are risks...People have already laid out the procedure...You must always use a third country to change between the US passport and PRC...Hong Kong and most other southeast asian countries will work...I know there are umpteen thousands of Chinese who are now citizens of the US, Canada, Australia, etc. who are doing it... I think it is too risky...Remember if anything goes wrong inside China you are a Chinese citizen...Your western citizenship is of no use because you declared yourself to be a PRCC by entering on that passport...Of course the bizarre twist is that by becoming a citizen of another country you automatically gave up Chinese citizenship so how can they now imprison you as being Chinese...You could ceratinly make that arguement and good luck with it... If you are not involved in any business dealings, do not drive your own car, don't carry placards demanding freedom for Tibet, are quite sure that there will never be any "issues" between our nations, etc. it is doable and the risk would be very low...Only you and laopo can decide if its worth it...

I just wanted to add that some of the newest double-wides are extremely nice... Rogie, you need to get yourself one of them nice motor homes. I bet the wife wouldn't mind one. http://attachments.techguy.org/attachments/163150d1263559352/motorhome-luxury.jpg Looks like this is the ideal place for cuzzin Roggie's limo. http://www.simplyangel.com/angelfiles/Pictures/TrashyTrailer.jpg Two great ideas boys... B)

I just wanted to add that some of the newest double-wides are extremely nice...

We haven't started finishing anything yet but I aksed the wife about this WETFLOORSWINDSHIELDWIPERTHINGMIE and she claims that's a first floor phenomenon... I'm sorta' curious cuzzzin' on how your spouse got an extra bathroom... In our places the bathrooms are a black hole that goes down about a foot and has stubs for water and sewage and then that space has a lower ceiling than the rest of the house because the guy above you (if there is one) needs the space for his john... so I'm unclear as to how you could make an extra one somewhere other than dividing one up right there...

The Cultural Revolution... But seriously if I stick just to the facts I may not be elected Mr Cultural Sensitivity... so I'll just tell y'all what Thomas Jefferson said to me one day... When the people fear the government there is tyranny...When the government fears the people there is freedom...

So who wants to go wade through some of this slop next time you are in Beijing? ewwwww B) At least Uncle Mao considered all the residents of Beijing. The nuclear bunkers in Washington are designed only for the president, his cabinet and a handful of congresscritters and buddies. Funny one Bill... Is this the same Chairman Mao who didn't worry about losing a few hundred million Chinese in a nuclear war and is the greatest mass murderer in history... The worst genocides of the 20th Century Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000 Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine) Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII) Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908) 8,000,000 Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII) Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20) Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps) http://www.scaruffi....ics/dictat.html

We will be living half the year...mid-April to mid-October in the US when we retire in 3 years...and the other half in Hainan and Hunan...

Here's an article about the central guvmint putting the brakes on developers being able to raise money for new projects... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/business....html?src=busln Excuse my naivete but doesn't supply and demand work in China too... So they think by lowering availability of new developments it will somehow cause prices to fall...