Re: Interesting Story about American Teaching English in Guz

[padre]

http://www.teachinginchina.net/pages/darren.html

[David&Wendy]

This is why you definately need to have more information about who is sending you to China, what hours you will work and when will you get your return ticket. On top of all that taking enough money to buy yourself a return ticket "just in case" the unexpected or the promised things are not delivered.

 

From my time living there I definately saw the huge differences between working for an American based company that has a working agreement with the government run Education Bureau of the city and a individual school hiring a 'foreign expert in English' to teach classes.

[Shenzhen K-1]

Very sad story, it makes you worry and wonder!!

 

You just hope the family finds some peace and relief!

[griz326]

I hope to teach in China for several years. In doing my research, I came across this story about a year ago.

 

What seemed clear is that the young man was inexperienced and naive. It cost him his life. At one point he surrended his passport to a school official.

 

Sad.

[David&Wendy]

I hope to teach in China for several years. In doing my research, I came across this story about a year ago.

 

What seemed clear is that the young man was inexperienced and naive. It cost him his life. At one point he surrended his passport to a school official.

 

Sad.

 

There are a couple American companies that are reputable, 1 British TEFL company that I've had friends work for happily.

 

...and then there are the 10s of thousands "opportunities" that give me a second pause. One phrase comes to mind when looking for English teaching jobs in China. "If a teaching job in China it sounds too good to be true it definately is too good to be true."

 

You do have to give your passport up to get your Z visa(residence & work permit) but who you give it to makes a world of difference.

[GZBILL]

http://www.teachinginchina.net/pages/darren.html

 

Yes, an unfortunate event, but not everything is as it seems.

 

Contrary to popular belief, the US diplomatic missions abroad do not have a babysitting section.

 

Secondly, lying does not fortify your case.

[DMikeS4321]

You do have to give your passport up to get your Z visa(residence & work permit) but who you give it to makes a world of difference.

 

Who DO you give it to???

[DMikeS4321]

http://www.teachinginchina.net/pages/darren.html

 

Yes, an unfortunate event, but not everything is as it seems.

 

Contrary to popular belief, the US diplomatic missions abroad do not have a babysitting section.

 

Secondly, lying does not fortify your case.

 

The babysitting part I get, but could you please expand on the "lying" comment?

 

Thanks

[dapigu]

Freezing in Guanzhou? There's something fishy in this story.......

[pkfops]

Here's a video report:

 

http://onemanbandwidth.com/wordpress/?p=221

[GZBILL]

http://www.teachinginchina.net/pages/darren.html

 

Yes, an unfortunate event, but not everything is as it seems.

 

Contrary to popular belief, the US diplomatic missions abroad do not have a babysitting section.

 

Secondly, lying does not fortify your case.

 

The babysitting part I get, but could you please expand on the "lying" comment?

 

Thanks

 

This guy's mom, whether out of grief or whatever, totally screwed up any investigation into his death. Now, perhaps to easer her conscience, is trying to turn the tables on those who, initially, went out of their way to try and help her.

 

Fact: The GZ authorities wanted to conduct an autopsy which would have been open to attendance by US specialists. The mother made a big stink about conducting an autopsy and refused permission. She claimed that her Jewish faith mandated that no autopsy be performed because, in part, burial had to occur within a certain number of hours of death.

 

The GZ authorities were well within their rights to force an autopsy, but because of the mother was making such a big uproar, they had her sign a document stating that under no circumstances would she allow an autopsy due to her faith.

 

There were credible allegations of continued substance abuse, but the fact that there was, at the mother's insistance, no autopsy, there can be no proof.

 

It is the hight of hypocrasy, not to mention stupidity, to start making a fuss now when from the beginning she never allowed authorities to do their job. In all probability the lady is just -- albeit from the death or her son -- some kind of nut case.

[jbray]

True or not, some of the conditions at the schools are terrible. Some of these brokers are very threatening. I had a terrible experience with one in Chengdu (I would LOVE to mention his name). This guy threatened the foreign English teachers. He made us sign contracts and then he would change the schools we were teaching. He would try to doc our pay for EVERYTHING.

 

This guy was really bad. He faked Bank of China documents (he had the bank books and a bank printer), and he blackmailed a principal from one of the best schools in Chengdu to fake student records. Everyone feared him... He was Chinese, but a Canadian citizen.

 

Anyway, I strongly recommend that people that want to teach get certified and make sure you are working at a reputable program. Do you homework!