Life In America

[SheLikesME?]

made sure I had a better control of my wallet while in China because, as she put it,"people here no good".

In almost a dozen cities in six months.. I was never told to worry about my wallet.

 

I wonder if she would give that warning to a chinese friend visiting her, or only to a western visiting? If the latter only, then maybe she's too sensitive to what a 'foreigner might want to hear'...

I never felt threatened. But I see a bunch of guys followed Dennis around a lot. Wonder what interested them?

[SirLancelot]

 

Jumping to another topic, during a survey of the Chinese who has been to U.S, its not hard to find out that in our eyes, U.S. is comfortable for Retirement, but China is definitely the heaven for energetic people who have the young hearts~.

 

Yuki~

@Shanghai

 

Haha.. I have to chuckle at this.

 

While I disagree with Feather's assessment of how safe the US is compared to China--I also believe China is a lot safer than the US in terms of violence--but I also question where you've visited in China verses where you've visited in the US, Yuki. If you've only been to Boonsville Nebraska or Middleflatland Kansas, then you can't compare that to Shanghai, China. You need to visit Manhattan New York, Westwood California, South Beach Florida and, of course, Las Vegas Nevada. There are plenty of places in the US that's plenty exciting and energetic for both young and old.

 

Having lived in China for 2 years in the very recent past, I can absolutely say China is overall much, much safer in terms of physical violence, but petty theft is rampant as people are in such close proximity to each other and lack of private transportation forces everyone onto public transportation where pick pockets are working 24 hours a day.

 

In a big city like Shanghai, I was never once afraid to be out at wee hours of the night walking. There's no way I'd feel as secure in a comparably big city in the US-such as NYC.

 

Just my 2 cents.

[Dennis143]

made sure I had a better control of my wallet while in China because, as she put it,"people here no good".

In almost a dozen cities in six months.. I was never told to worry about my wallet.

 

I wonder if she would give that warning to a chinese friend visiting her, or only to a western visiting? If the latter only, then maybe she's too sensitive to what a 'foreigner might want to hear'...

I never felt threatened. But I see a bunch of guys followed Dennis around a lot. Wonder what interested them?

I suspect they wanted that big wad in my trousers, Doug.

[SheLikesME?]

made sure I had a better control of my wallet while in China because, as she put it,"people here no good".

In almost a dozen cities in six months.. I was never told to worry about my wallet.

 

I wonder if she would give that warning to a chinese friend visiting her, or only to a western visiting? If the latter only, then maybe she's too sensitive to what a 'foreigner might want to hear'...

I never felt threatened. But I see a bunch of guys followed Dennis around a lot. Wonder what interested them?

I suspect they wanted that big wad in my trousers, Doug.

Exactly what I was thinking. We saw the pic not long ago.

[Dennis143]

made sure I had a better control of my wallet while in China because, as she put it,"people here no good".

In almost a dozen cities in six months.. I was never told to worry about my wallet.

 

I wonder if she would give that warning to a chinese friend visiting her, or only to a western visiting? If the latter only, then maybe she's too sensitive to what a 'foreigner might want to hear'...

I never felt threatened. But I see a bunch of guys followed Dennis around a lot. Wonder what interested them?

I suspect they wanted that big wad in my trousers, Doug.

Exactly what I was thinking. We saw the pic not long ago.

Douuuuug!! You are thinking too much again!!!

[SheLikesME?]

I'll be on the road soon enough and probably not here for a day or so anyway. Man you guys had some long threads I see while I was (busy). I'm cleaning out all the email from posts and junk before I head North for 6 hrs tonight.

 

I caried US cash in one pocket up front and my wallet with plenty RMB in the other front pocket. Just a precaution, but I never felt uneasy anywhere I went. I ventured out on my own plenty, but then aerospace towns and cities are probably pretty safe all the time. I don't know.

Edited March 6, 2007 by SheLikesME? (see edit history)

[kenshin77]

 

Jumping to another topic, during a survey of the Chinese who has been to U.S, its not hard to find out that in our eyes, U.S. is comfortable for Retirement, but China is definitely the heaven for energetic people who have the young hearts~.

 

Yuki~

@Shanghai

 

Haha.. I have to chuckle at this.

 

While I disagree with Feather's assessment of how safe the US is compared to China--I also believe China is a lot safer than the US in terms of violence--but I also question where you've visited in China verses where you've visited in the US, Yuki. If you've only been to Boonsville Nebraska or Middleflatland Kansas, then you can't compare that to Shanghai, China. You need to visit Manhattan New York, Westwood California, South Beach Florida and, of course, Las Vegas Nevada. There are plenty of places in the US that's plenty exciting and energetic for both young and old.

 

Having lived in China for 2 years in the very recent past, I can absolutely say China is overall much, much safer in terms of physical violence, but petty theft is rampant as people are in such close proximity to each other and lack of private transportation forces everyone onto public transportation where pick pockets are working 24 hours a day.

 

In a big city like Shanghai, I was never once afraid to be out at wee hours of the night walking. There's no way I'd feel as secure in a comparably big city in the US-such as NYC.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Alrighty, It was 8 years ago when I visited U.S. and I was 17. The 6 years in between till 2005, I resided in Ontario, Canada. and Now I'm living in Shanghai with my parents.

 

I'm pretty sure theres a lot of changes now. Im just trying to pull my memory out and share it with you.

 

The Cities in U.S. that I went to are: L.A. San Gabriel, San Diego, Minneapolis, NYC.

 

On the way back from NYC to L.A. I stopped at Las Vegas with Teammates, but since I was only 17, I could only stay in the Hotel or just walk with all the friends on the street, and It was the prettiest city in my eyes at that time. We watched the show outside of different Casinos and Hotels, I still didn't get the point why we stopped there since none of us was above 21, but I guess its our English Instructor's idea

 

We went back from Las Vegas to L.A. We also visited Mexico at the border, I must say thats completely different experience to me in Mexico, and U.S. Overall, I like L.A. the most perhaps b'coz of the large Asian population I've seen at that time. oh,oh, and also the Theme parks were our favorites~

 

I feel relaxed when I was in the cities in CA and yes never had to worry about the safety.

 

However,

 

I remember when we flew to NYC, our instructor whos a white guy told us that don't hang the DV around your neck, don't carry anything expensive with you, don't bring Cash, most of all. We were all just surprised that he said that to us. While walking on the street, everyone's being like super cautious lol... idk but at that time, what we had to do was just to take people's advises.

 

I've lived my first 15 years in Jiangsu province in China, I've also been to a lot of cities in China, small or big, nice or dirty, yet, I love them all, Im chinese, no reason not to, right? Like I said, nothing is absolute, U.S. or China, this is an endless discussion, but to me, neither of them is extremely bad or extremely good in some ways~ and for our goal, is still coming back to China in the near future~

 

Cheers,

 

Yuki

Edited March 6, 2007 by kenshin77 (see edit history)

[david_dawei]

We were all just surprised that he said that to us. While walking on the street, everyone's being like super cautious lol... idk but at that time, what we had to do was just to take people's advises.

and do you think that all the people walking around the street that day were all super cautious?

 

I guess no. The warning is just a 'foreigner beware' warning.. unfortunate since if he told you nothing, you'd enjoy the walk more.

 

Overprotection is over advice sometimes. Maybe it's universal.

[kenshin77]

We were all just surprised that he said that to us. While walking on the street, everyone's being like super cautious lol... idk but at that time, what we had to do was just to take people's advises.

and do you think that all the people walking around the street that day were all super cautious?

 

I guess no. The warning is just a 'foreigner beware' warning.. unfortunate since if he told you nothing, you'd enjoy the walk more.

 

Overprotection is over advice sometimes. Maybe it's universal.

 

I think so too, the influences of the memory at that age was really huge

[Feathers268]

I'm not trying to say that the US is a stronghold of safety vs China, but at the same time, China is not a utopia of law abiding citizens. Anicdotal evidence doesn't show the whole picture. If I didn't follow the news on TV or radio, I would not know of 1% of the crime here in the US.

I felt safe in China, Jen's reaction was for me as a foriener looking like an easy mark. But then, Jen would not wear her rings due to fear of robbery. Others her in the past had SO's rings stolen, even from their homes. An occurence that seemed regular in some neiborhoods. Again very much like some places here in the states.

[lili58]

In a big city like Shanghai, I was never once afraid to be out at wee hours of the night walking. There's no way I'd feel as secure in a comparably big city in the US-such as NYC.

 

Just my 2 cents.

I second that. Shanghai is very safe. I tend to think that "safety" in China has to do with communism. Communism didn't allow people to behave wild or use guns ... etc. I am not sure if people will agree with that.

[david_dawei]

In a big city like Shanghai, I was never once afraid to be out at wee hours of the night walking. There's no way I'd feel as secure in a comparably big city in the US-such as NYC.

 

Just my 2 cents.

I second that. Shanghai is very safe. I tend to think that "safety" in China has to do with communism. Communism didn't allow people to behave wild or use guns ... etc. I am not sure if people will agree with that.

I would think the history of 'bad behavior as taboo' goes back a long way... even to touch a girl in traditional china could get an arm cut off... (lends itself to sexual suppression on some level)

[Feathers268]

In a big city like Shanghai, I was never once afraid to be out at wee hours of the night walking. There's no way I'd feel as secure in a comparably big city in the US-such as NYC.

 

Just my 2 cents.

I second that. Shanghai is very safe. I tend to think that "safety" in China has to do with communism. Communism didn't allow people to behave wild or use guns ... etc. I am not sure if people will agree with that.

That runs into the all too often debate of safety vs. civil liberty. I for one would not be willing to give up rights for percieved safety.

I have known people from Reno that felt threatened in SF due to the difference in size and the peception of "the big city". When US media only focuses on the bad things, "if it bleeds, it leads", any place can get a bad reputation. I for one would not feel any different in either place. I'll keep my eyes open and aware of my surroundings.