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Looked there and didn't find anything, maybe i need new glasses but just can't find it. Also is this form required for CR1 or just K3 ? or have it regardless? Dan

Thanks! After 3 hours of filling forms, I never would have spotted that. No problem. This is a VERY confusing form at best. Question 8 is usually not on the the GIV24 that your fiancee will receive from GZ. Oh great, I just spent an hour completing that part. I plan to have Lao po go over the Giv-24 again when she receives the form from Guz. Additionally, she is writing all of my personal information on a separate piece of paper in case the VO asks her something she might not remember. She rememebers everything I tell her for the most part anyway. Do i need to have this GIV-24 for my wife's interview? if so where can i find this form? I've look around the Site for the US Consulate but have not found it. In addition, a google search did not find it either.. thanks Dan

Keep reading about this "Supplement Form" and how some guys here have been "dinged" for it. How do I obtain this form? Thanks Dan

Greetings: I understand that the K1 is good for up to 6 months from the time it is given out. What about the CR1? My wife is pregnant and if we do not get the interview in time for her to travel because she will not be able to travel after her 8th month of pregnancy. She will have to remain in China until after the birth of our child. But yet she will be able to go to her interview up until the day of her delivery. Then after the birth of our child she can't travel for a month or so. So, that is why i am wondering how long is the CR1 good for ? Same as K1? I did try to "google" it but to no avail. Oh, also just out of curiosity, we are going to "OPTIN" for electronic filing once we get there. So how long does it take to get an interview date? Dan

No, she want's it born here Yeah, but the baby would have dual citizenship to age 18 if it was born in China. China does not accept dual citizenship and has gotten sly at figuring out who has USC. I have finally gotten all of my wife's doctors letters translated and i have an info pass appointment on monday to submit my Service request for Expedite. Who knows until you try and we are going to try. After NOA2, we are going to file electronically. But the faster it get's through USCIS the better we are while waiting for our interview date in Guangzhou. I also understand there are different thoughts when it comes to contacting your senator about help. But i have also done this too. Maybe just maybe they will help out. Cheers Dan

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I'll be traveling back to see the wife in April and i will be in Guangzhou and was thinking about going to the ACH. As of now our petition (I-130) is not at the Consulate yet. However, my question is: Even if our petition is NOT at the Consulate yet, would it be a good idea to go? If i did go, are there any really "good" questions to ask? Such as, process questions, or questions related to what we should or should not bring, or ??? Just want to use my time wisely while I am over with the wife again. Never hurts to ask, and i guess the only stupid question is the question we never ask. Dan

Greetings; We'll just one question for now, I hope. Indeed my wife is pregnant and she has expressed concerned about the medical. I understand that part of the medical is to get chest x-rays, correct? Do pregnant women still need to do this since it is obviously detrimental the health of our un born child and to my wife? I need to put her at ease concerning this matter, oh does it matter how far along she is which determines this answer? Dan

but what tools? The US Consulate in Guangzhou really makes me nervous very much. It is almost as if they do not want people to be together. Almost as if they have side bets as to how many they can deny in a day.. what a place... The tools of dotting "i's" and crossing "t's." You must view the goal from the perspective of the US government. They are clear in their requirements as to what can be accepted as proof of a bona fide relationship. The issues that often arise are: 1. Absence of a common language. That means, if you can't speak Chinese, and she can't speak English. If this is the case, you'll need to use alternative and creative methods to illustrate how the two of you communicate. Just saying we love each other won't cut it with the judges. 2. Proof you've met and been places together. Verbal, no good. You need photos and receipts. Keep a daily log book writing notes of where you went, and what you did. Have others take pictures of you while you're there. Label the photos and receipts. Always get a receipt or "fapiao." 3. Draft a comprehensive "Evolution of Relationship" letter. Include dates and cross references to events, conversations, and visits. Cross reference your evidence. Squishy talk in this document is not helpful. Just the facts. and, front load all of these with your initial filing. I submitted all of that with my 4" and 8lbs of paper and over 60 photos and more..

but what tools? The US Consulate in Guangzhou really makes me nervous very much. It is almost as if they do not want people to be together. Almost as if they have side bets as to how many they can deny in a day.. what a place...

We'll today i looked at my checking account and yes, the I-130 checks have been cashed. I was wondering where and who cashes them. So I looked on the back to find my WAC Number. Next to that shows the bank that cashed it, it said "J P Morgan Chase Chicago" So contrary to some words i heard from our friends at the 800 Number.. The Service Center did not cash my checks.. The Chicago lock box did.. Just thought i'd pass on some information if anyone was also wondering Dan

You will be fine, you did your homework BEFORE filing. EOR has no set format, it is simply a letter detailing how your past relationship ended, how you met your spouse and time leading up to filing. I'd be willing to post the contents of my EOR (minus some specific information) for the benefit of others. I realize it might open up a can of worms, but unless you ask the question how do you know what the answer is? Dan

I agree this is the best way to submit something. What is unclear from a historical point of view is whether it's helpful or not. The main drawbacks from doing this, purely based on a feeling, the package has been reviewed and anything new does not have adequate time to evaluate against the package. If anything gives them the slightest pause, they will just issue a blue to ask for more info or explanation. So, it goes back to our normal advise: It's a case by case issue... if it's really needed, then consider it. As part of the 4" and 8 lbs of paper I sent a did send in a two page notarized letter describing our "Evolution of Relationship" up to the point of our marriage. This included information i knew about my ex-wife, including her SSN#, last know address, full name and when we filed for divorce. Additionally in my I-130 packet i sent in over 60 photos, copies of all receipts, all boarding passes, copies of emails, chats sessions, phone bills, plus evidence of bona fide relationship including her name on the deed to the home, utility bills, life insurance beneficiary, tax changes.. and more i forget about. I truly "front loaded" this petition and would have sent more, but i figure if i sent in anymore they might get upset. I actually scaled it back from 14 lbs of paper.. With all that said, i hope the format of my EOR was correct and it was indeed notarized.. Dan

Rick, very sorry to hear this. I am not positive...and I am sure someone with more knowledge will chime in soon. I believe that there is an appeals process available thru USCIS for a CR-1. I think Dan would know for sure. AS for originals..I am not sure. I do know that there is not much you can do right now other than try to find out when the file willbe sent back to USCIS. I wish you the best of luck and keep at it........you will make it past the gov Robert These are the situations why I am so very nervous about GUZ interview process. What are they looking for as far as bona fide relationship? When i sent in our I-130 for the eventual CR-1 I sent in 4" and 8lbs of paper. I will be there for my wife's interview and plan on doing and bringing everything I can think of. On top of that my wife is now 3 weeks pregnant.. What else can we do to prove we have a real relationship? why did they say this to you? Just really do not understand this consulate. Dan

I have read these posts and i am still someone wondering about the actual "content" of such a letter. I've read the one posted for a I-129F, but we have filed a I-130 / CR1. Content will be different. Should it be done in chronological order? Is it necessary to put information about ex-wife in this letter? If so how much? as it has been posted here many times, giving too much information can also be dangerous as it can the Consular officer more subjects for questions. I apologize for my innate inability to read between the lines on these posts, but i guess can't get it through my thick skull about what exactly to write. D If you're divorced ... when did you divorce? were there any kids? who are they with? when did you start looking for a new wife? how did you come across this lady? how often do you communicate with each other? when did you physically meet? what about her family? did you meet them too? did you do anything together? (attach photos) when did you 2 decide this is "it"? etc ... You get the drift? IMHO this is one of the most important documents you will submit. It should be a story of your lives coming together, the love that developed and the longing to be together forever. It ain't a novel. A couple of pages or 4 should do it. I personally didn't attach photos but what can it hurt? Good Luck! I appreciate the help and if i understand this EOR Letter, the wife will give this letter at the time of the interview, correct ? We'll obviously since i have already sent in our I-130 to USCIS.... This process sure can get confusing... except for the I-864, this i understand, pictures,etc for interview i understand.. but this letter for some reason has just eluded my common sense factors.

I have read these posts and i am still someone wondering about the actual "content" of such a letter. I've read the one posted for a I-129F, but we have filed a I-130 / CR1. Content will be different. Should it be done in chronological order? Is it necessary to put information about ex-wife in this letter? If so how much? as it has been posted here many times, giving too much information can also be dangerous as it can the Consular officer more subjects for questions. I apologize for my innate inability to read between the lines on these posts, but i guess can't get it through my thick skull about what exactly to write. D

I am sure that this is probably an annoying question, but after an extensive search I really am wondering from those who have gone through GUZ what really needs to be in this "Evolution of Relationship" letter? Formatting? notarized or not? Final date of entry of this letter, what i mean is how far should this letter cover up to? any guidance would be greatly appreciated as i would like to start to write this letter and I think a notarized letter will be a good thing too. Thank you Dan

And thus ladies and gentlemen of the court, I rest my case regarding the significant difference between the USA and Chinese view of a baby's birth. Thanks Jin! Ditto!! My Yu was telling me about a Chinese mother's month of confinement a while ago. She was amazed by my sister and sister-in-law having babies and being out of the hospital withing a couple of days and being up and doing things the day or so after that. Last month a girl that we see often in a local diner gave birth to twins and brought them to the diner perhaps two days after for friends to see. I guess western women are tougher in this aspect of life, they can give birth and be back to work at home the next day. If I were in this situation I would consider immigrating to the USA after having the child, unless you have aspirations of the Child one day becoming the President of the USA. I don't think I would say that. I think it is more that we forgot how important it is for a woman to rest after giving birth to a baby because of (1) need for two income families to buy all the toys we want and (2) insurance kicks you out after birth.. Talked with my HR Department today and I was told that the insurance from my company says that as the wife enters the country they will take the date of the stamp in her passport as a significant event in our lives to use as a date to enroll her in my Medical plan. So, again waiting on the USCIS. Still no receipt number for I-130....... "the Games Begin"

Wondering how do i edit my timeline? i've search but cannot find? Dan

Good point, I will need to go talk with my HR Department tomorrow and ask this question. We are using date we were married in Guangzhou as our anniversary date. No reason to get "married" again. We are both hoping the visa will be approved within time for her to get here to give birth. Other wise, i guess i'll be moving to Guangzhou. Which i will say i have no issue with. I'd be glade to move there to be with her. We'll i won't bore everyone with extended / alternate plans in the event that our wonderful USCIS makes this a painful visa journey. Dan

Good point David. Also it is typical for the husband's mother to take care of the daughter-in-law during the marriage and after. The birth of a child here is taken more seriously especially for the mother's health than in the USA (at least in my view). No one here expects the mother will be up and back to work after a few weeks. All good points, sure a lot to think about. Now, we can only concentrate on getting everything done for her visa here. But in retrospect, I-130 sent so we are now in wait mode. But I will try for an expedite, cannot hurt and you never know. As far as support goes, it is my first baby, so I will do all I can. But I guess we will need to talk more about her mom traveling.. Dan Unless your work will give you a few months off to take care of her and the baby 24x7, it's not the support she is culturally expecting if in china; that is Allan's point that they take the birth more seriously; the wife is not supposed to lift a proverbial finger. But ultimately she has to say what her expectations are.... just don't be surprised if a request for black chicken instead of ice cream and pickles comes forth "Black Chicken"? sound just wonderful ... Just asked the wife, and she has told me her mom is to visit next year. But time will tell.

Good point David. Also it is typical for the husband's mother to take care of the daughter-in-law during the marriage and after. The birth of a child here is taken more seriously especially for the mother's health than in the USA (at least in my view). No one here expects the mother will be up and back to work after a few weeks. All good points, sure a lot to think about. Now, we can only concentrate on getting everything done for her visa here. But in retrospect, I-130 sent so we are now in wait mode. But I will try for an expedite, cannot hurt and you never know. As far as support goes, it is my first baby, so I will do all I can. But I guess we will need to talk more about her mom traveling.. Dan

Thank You, I guess another down side for me is that I am now worrying about her health and all things that she does now. Only thing I can do is to try once I get the doctors letter. It doesn't hurt to try, and as it has been said there is no real consistency with the US Government on Any thing.. Dan

No, she want's it born here Yeah, but the baby would have dual citizenship to age 18 if it was born in China. As of now, we are going to hope that her visa get's approved within time. I have read that I can make an infoPass appointment at my local USCIS office and request a "service request" to expedite based on a medical. Therefore, the wife will get a letter from her doctor, translate it and then email to me. Additionally once the wife arrives, she will have full medical insurance. With all that said, I am hoping that everything will go well for us. Dan

No, she want's it born here