I understand what you're saying David. I thought the article brought up some interesting points,whether we agree with them or not. I didn't post it to further any bashing of China. Actually I didn't think it came across as as much of a China-bashing piece as you did. After all, most of the quotes and facts cited in the article, including one you used, are from Chinese citizens,researchers,officials and academia. And the article's author cited some of our own short-comings to show correlations between our past and China's possbile future. I just thought it was interesting and fairly even-handed.