knloregon Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 "However I never see any of the lead protesters in those cases being nominated for Nobel Peace Prize. " ---give it time. Link to comment
Guest ShaQuaNew Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-07...ent_8393952.htm English version of China Daily also carried the story about Hu returning from the G8 summit. Also German and Dutch Chinese embassies have been protested by Xinjiang separatist supporters and also attacked by unkown groups. Can see many articles about the issue at China Daily. Seems we are going down the same path as Mar08 in Tibet. However there have been, and quite violent, protests in the past by Musilms and other ethic minority groups in western countries. Seems the western media are no so into reporting this as with cases like this one in China. However I never see any of the lead protesters in those cases being nominated for Nobel Peace Prize. The tired old tactic of the West thinking the world will keep buying into their wanting to pin the anti-humanitarian label on China and other countries is running out of gas. The Nobel peace prize has become a joke during this generation. Used more by a certain group of people to further their agenda. Look at some of the people it's been awarded to: Jimmy CarterDali LamaYasser Arafat...and of course...Owl Gore Edited July 8, 2009 by ShaQuaNew (see edit history) Link to comment
chengdu4me Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 More riot police now there.. Leaders at all levels are telling that those that commit violence will be executed... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090708/ap_on_...s_china_protest Link to comment
tonado Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/09/world/as...rss&emc=rss China Official Threatens Death Penalty After Riots Link to comment
Guest ShaQuaNew Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 More riot police now there.. Leaders at all levels are telling that those that commit violence will be executed... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090708/ap_on_...s_china_protest Good. Anyone on the street for that purpose ought to be. Link to comment
chengdu4me Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 More riot police now there.. Leaders at all levels are telling that those that commit violence will be executed... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090708/ap_on_...s_china_protest Good. Anyone on the street for that purpose ought to be. Yes, I agree...I have a very hard time feeling "sympathetic" for anyone that has a grievance, but chooses to use violence rather than intelligence to get a solution. Regardless of how frustrated you are, there are so many other ways to get attention to your plight. In this case, other cases around the globe...authorities should find a leader of the group or a spokesperson, listen to what they have to say, tell everyone to go home, then work together to create a solution. And without any further nonsense, that should be the end of street justice. If it isn't the end...make it the end. Everyone of those people that are burning cars, beating people, killing people, ...they know the law... they know that their actions are going to get them executed if they are caught...they have no valid complaint about "justice". Link to comment
rogerluli Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 What's damned interesting, is that CNN is reporting more than 100-killed. All other news outfits have the number at three (3). Typical. Was it CNN that said China suffers 80,000 riots a year, or was it Fox? In this case, I don't believe either one. Though, CNN has a long history of latching on to what it considers "human rights" stories. This might give CNN an excuse to break away from Michael Jackson coverage; course, I don't think their audience would appreciate it. That number came from some obscure blogger somewhere, who made the statement of some 80,000 unreported riots happening every year in China. It is impossible to tell. China no longer publishes the figures for how many riots take place each year, but most people put the figure at around 80,000 and the vast majority go totally unnoticed. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/malcolmm...ice_in_Shishou/ CNN...Fox...obscure bloggers...ouside agitators...80,000 "mass incidents"...What craziness... Wait a minute though... "China strives to handle mass incidents(Xinhua)Updated: 2006-12-09 17:54 The Communist Party of China (CPC) is exerting efforts to actively prevent and handle mass incidents, and such a move shows the Party's clear recognition of China's current social and economic development and its courage to confront realities. The Resolution of the CPC Central Committee on Major Issues Regarding the Building of a Harmonious Socialist Society, adopted at the Sixth Plenary Session of the 16th Central Committee of the CPC on Oct. 11, is the first major Party document that addresses the issue of mass incidents and makes it an important task in the process of building a harmonious society. China is harmonious and stable in general, but it is undergoing profound changes in social and economic structures with many destabilizing factors. The number and scope of mass incidents have become the most outstanding problem that seriously disturbs social stability. The mass incidents reflect the various social conflicts and problems popping up at the crucial stage of China's reforms. The prevention and proper handling of mass incidents is a major test for the CPC's governing ability. China's booming economic development has largely improved people's living standard, but in the meantime the gaps between the rich and poor, urban and rural have been widened. Against this background, major mass incidents have been increasing and having wider impact. Among these incidents, some economic disputes had been politicized, and violent confrontation has increased so much that any inappropriate dealing would cause bloodshed. Meanwhile, hostile forces inside and outside China are trying all means to intervene and take advantage of mass incidents to instigate and create turbulence. The Party should put priority to solving the problems and difficulties of laid-off workers, land-lost farmers, emigrants from the Three Gorges Dam area, migrant workers, and the poor in both urban and rural areas. The Ministry of Public Security reported 87,000 mass incidents in 2005, up 6.6 percent over that 2004 and 50 percent over 2003. Local governments and CPC committees should stay cautious in deploying police force, using weapons and exercising forceful measures in handling mass incidents, to avoid improper force use that will intensify conflicts and aggravate the situation." It seems the number comes from the Ministry of Public Security but it is well out of date being from 2005...I'm sure with the economic downturn the number is much, much higher today... Have a nice day... Link to comment
whome? Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 What's damned interesting, is that CNN is reporting more than 100-killed. All other news outfits have the number at three (3). Typical. Was it CNN that said China suffers 80,000 riots a year, or was it Fox? In this case, I don't believe either one. Though, CNN has a long history of latching on to what it considers "human rights" stories. This might give CNN an excuse to break away from Michael Jackson coverage; course, I don't think their audience would appreciate it. That number came from some obscure blogger somewhere, who made the statement of some 80,000 unreported riots happening every year in China. It is impossible to tell. China no longer publishes the figures for how many riots take place each year, but most people put the figure at around 80,000 and the vast majority go totally unnoticed. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/malcolmm...ice_in_Shishou/ CNN...Fox...obscure bloggers...ouside agitators...80,000 "mass incidents"...What craziness... Wait a minute though... "China strives to handle mass incidents(Xinhua)Updated: 2006-12-09 17:54 The Communist Party of China (CPC) is exerting efforts to actively prevent and handle mass incidents, and such a move shows the Party's clear recognition of China's current social and economic development and its courage to confront realities. The Resolution of the CPC Central Committee on Major Issues Regarding the Building of a Harmonious Socialist Society, adopted at the Sixth Plenary Session of the 16th Central Committee of the CPC on Oct. 11, is the first major Party document that addresses the issue of mass incidents and makes it an important task in the process of building a harmonious society. China is harmonious and stable in general, but it is undergoing profound changes in social and economic structures with many destabilizing factors. The number and scope of mass incidents have become the most outstanding problem that seriously disturbs social stability. The mass incidents reflect the various social conflicts and problems popping up at the crucial stage of China's reforms. The prevention and proper handling of mass incidents is a major test for the CPC's governing ability. China's booming economic development has largely improved people's living standard, but in the meantime the gaps between the rich and poor, urban and rural have been widened. Against this background, major mass incidents have been increasing and having wider impact. Among these incidents, some economic disputes had been politicized, and violent confrontation has increased so much that any inappropriate dealing would cause bloodshed. Meanwhile, hostile forces inside and outside China are trying all means to intervene and take advantage of mass incidents to instigate and create turbulence. The Party should put priority to solving the problems and difficulties of laid-off workers, land-lost farmers, emigrants from the Three Gorges Dam area, migrant workers, and the poor in both urban and rural areas. The Ministry of Public Security reported 87,000 mass incidents in 2005, up 6.6 percent over that 2004 and 50 percent over 2003. Local governments and CPC committees should stay cautious in deploying police force, using weapons and exercising forceful measures in handling mass incidents, to avoid improper force use that will intensify conflicts and aggravate the situation." It seems the number comes from the Ministry of Public Security but it is well out of date being from 2005...I'm sure with the economic downturn the number is much, much higher today... Have a nice day... And how is this any different than what the French government said a few years back during the summer riots by muslim immigrants ... Amazing the double standard... Link to comment
tsap seui Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 CNN...Fox...obscure bloggers...ouside agitators...80,000 "mass incidents"...What craziness... Wait a minute though... "China strives to handle mass incidents(Xinhua)Updated: 2006-12-09 17:54 The Communist Party of China (CPC) is exerting efforts to actively prevent and handle mass incidents, and such a move shows the Party's clear recognition of China's current social and economic development and its courage to confront realities. The Resolution of the CPC Central Committee on Major Issues Regarding the Building of a Harmonious Socialist Society, adopted at the Sixth Plenary Session of the 16th Central Committee of the CPC on Oct. 11, is the first major Party document that addresses the issue of mass incidents and makes it an important task in the process of building a harmonious society. China is harmonious and stable in general, but it is undergoing profound changes in social and economic structures with many destabilizing factors. The number and scope of mass incidents have become the most outstanding problem that seriously disturbs social stability. The mass incidents reflect the various social conflicts and problems popping up at the crucial stage of China's reforms. The prevention and proper handling of mass incidents is a major test for the CPC's governing ability. China's booming economic development has largely improved people's living standard, but in the meantime the gaps between the rich and poor, urban and rural have been widened. Against this background, major mass incidents have been increasing and having wider impact. Among these incidents, some economic disputes had been politicized, and violent confrontation has increased so much that any inappropriate dealing would cause bloodshed. Meanwhile, hostile forces inside and outside China are trying all means to intervene and take advantage of mass incidents to instigate and create turbulence. The Party should put priority to solving the problems and difficulties of laid-off workers, land-lost farmers, emigrants from the Three Gorges Dam area, migrant workers, and the poor in both urban and rural areas. The Ministry of Public Security reported 87,000 mass incidents in 2005, up 6.6 percent over that 2004 and 50 percent over 2003. Local governments and CPC committees should stay cautious in deploying police force, using weapons and exercising forceful measures in handling mass incidents, to avoid improper force use that will intensify conflicts and aggravate the situation." It seems the number comes from the Ministry of Public Security but it is well out of date being from 2005...I'm sure with the economic downturn the number is much, much higher today... Have a nice day... uNcA cUzZin' rogGiE, what is a guy to do? We gots social unrest and buildin's fallin' over in Chinertucky...America has fallen to it's knees. Chairman Mao is dead, Superman is a comic book character (I found out last week) and we've got all yore happy news reportin' on the current happenin's in Chinertucky. Shucks, I don't know rather to shit, or jest go blind. I gots me a house over in Chinertucky, but who knows it may fall over tomorrow and make your palaces fall down too so now I'm afraid to move to China...what with me being an American and a carrier of the dang "pig trouble". I know yore crystal ball is full of bad news, but I don't know who else to axe??? Should I sell my lil' tiny shack in China...before it falls down, it's got lot's of equity (while it's still standin)? Should I jump the good ship America before it sinks the rest of the way? Where...oh where is a man and his lil' family safe these daze? You've got me afraid of China and the rest of these guys have me afraid of America....should I take the family and run off to sumplace safe like Antarctica....nope, scratch that...they've got x-rays from the sun blastin' it everyday....should I take the lil' family and run off to Vietnam and grow me a patch of smoke, eat rice, and sell me a couple of fish in the market each day....I jest don't know!!! tsap seui Link to comment
rogerluli Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 CNN...Fox...obscure bloggers...ouside agitators...80,000 "mass incidents"...What craziness... Wait a minute though... "China strives to handle mass incidents(Xinhua)Updated: 2006-12-09 17:54 The Communist Party of China (CPC) is exerting efforts to actively prevent and handle mass incidents, and such a move shows the Party's clear recognition of China's current social and economic development and its courage to confront realities. The Resolution of the CPC Central Committee on Major Issues Regarding the Building of a Harmonious Socialist Society, adopted at the Sixth Plenary Session of the 16th Central Committee of the CPC on Oct. 11, is the first major Party document that addresses the issue of mass incidents and makes it an important task in the process of building a harmonious society. China is harmonious and stable in general, but it is undergoing profound changes in social and economic structures with many destabilizing factors. The number and scope of mass incidents have become the most outstanding problem that seriously disturbs social stability. The mass incidents reflect the various social conflicts and problems popping up at the crucial stage of China's reforms. The prevention and proper handling of mass incidents is a major test for the CPC's governing ability. China's booming economic development has largely improved people's living standard, but in the meantime the gaps between the rich and poor, urban and rural have been widened. Against this background, major mass incidents have been increasing and having wider impact. Among these incidents, some economic disputes had been politicized, and violent confrontation has increased so much that any inappropriate dealing would cause bloodshed. Meanwhile, hostile forces inside and outside China are trying all means to intervene and take advantage of mass incidents to instigate and create turbulence. The Party should put priority to solving the problems and difficulties of laid-off workers, land-lost farmers, emigrants from the Three Gorges Dam area, migrant workers, and the poor in both urban and rural areas. The Ministry of Public Security reported 87,000 mass incidents in 2005, up 6.6 percent over that 2004 and 50 percent over 2003. Local governments and CPC committees should stay cautious in deploying police force, using weapons and exercising forceful measures in handling mass incidents, to avoid improper force use that will intensify conflicts and aggravate the situation." It seems the number comes from the Ministry of Public Security but it is well out of date being from 2005...I'm sure with the economic downturn the number is much, much higher today... Have a nice day... uNcA cUzZin' rogGiE, what is a guy to do? We gots social unrest and buildin's fallin' over in Chinertucky...America has fallen to it's knees. Chairman Mao is dead, Superman is a comic book character (I found out last week) and we've got all yore happy news reportin' on the current happenin's in Chinertucky. Shucks, I don't know rather to shit, or jest go blind. I gots me a house over in Chinertucky, but who knows it may fall over tomorrow and make your palaces fall down too so now I'm afraid to move to China...what with me being an American and a carrier of the dang "pig trouble". I know yore crystal ball is full of bad news, but I don't know who else to axe??? Should I sell my lil' tiny shack in China...before it falls down, it's got lot's of equity (while it's still standin)? Should I jump the good ship America before it sinks the rest of the way? Where...oh where is a man and his lil' family safe these daze? You've got me afraid of China and the rest of these guys have me afraid of America....should I take the family and run off to sumplace safe like Antarctica....nope, scratch that...they've got x-rays from the sun blastin' it everyday....should I take the lil' family and run off to Vietnam and grow me a patch of smoke, eat rice, and sell me a couple of fish in the market each day....I jest don't know!!! tsap seui I hear Dalat, Vietnam is real nice with great highland weather...Or I'm checking out Cuenca, Ecuador myself...At 8200' and on the equator = great weather and houses are CHEAP...And Ecuador uses the $$$ for its currency... B) Link to comment
weiaijiayou Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 For several thousand years there has been an ebb and flow of Chinese (Han) culture throughout Xinjiang ----Han to the west, Uighurs to the east---as a part of the great Silk Road dynamic. Politically, its substantially more complicated than our: "Manifest Destiny" Kim, I really wasn't familiar with the Uighur people until this story broke the other day. I noticed on the map that this region is located north of Tibet along the old silk road. How long have these people been in that area, and can you share some of their history if you're familiar? --edit-- I did find this, which is helpful... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people but was wondering whether you knew of anything else to share?after a year in china you weren't familiar with uighurs? tisk, spending too much time on CFL in your city, i imagine the uighurs would be the guys standing by bicycles selling fruit and nut cakes. if you talk to them most will be happy to teach you a little of their language. Link to comment
weiaijiayou Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 well, maybe before all this happened... Link to comment
samsong Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Photographs. Caution- contains graphic images. http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200907...312-882923.html Link to comment
Guest Pommey Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 JEEZ, this was a mindless bunch of thugs killing people in a orgy of hatred and rage and you can try and excuse it any way you like. Really there is no excuse for their behaviour, they know it we all know it. But while the Chinese Goverment feels it needs to play it soft for the benifit of the western press crazies we will see this unfortunatly. They should have ended this real fast, with 50 cal into the mob. Link to comment
chengdu4me Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Time tot bring in the hard hitters and stop this crap... Link to comment
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