June 8th interview (white)

[lougars]

We went to the interview June 8th, the process for me was very straighforward. My financee had all the paperwork, tons and tons. The problem with the interview was her english was not good, when asked question from the vo she really didnt understand and possible gave wrong answers.

 

I think need to file a CRS1, any input would be good, thank you

[peterd01]

We went to the interview June 8th, the process for me was very straighforward. My financee had all the paperwork, tons and tons. The problem with the interview was her english was not good, when asked question from the vo she really didnt understand and possible gave wrong answers.

 

I think need to file a CRS1, any input would be good, thank you

Sorry to hear about your denial. At least you got white right of the bat, some members have gotten RFE or two, had the process drag out for six months even after resubmitting additional paperwork, then get a letter stating the consulate is returning your petition to USCIS for review and recommended revoking.

Post your timeline (easier to help you if we can see where you are in the process). Use the search option and read everything you can about the ones that got shotdown before you. Put your gal into a good English study, she will need it unless you take up Chinese.

 

Good luck.

[warpedbored]

White slips are becoming more difficult to overcome these days. You might want to get a lawyer well versed in the NOIR process. I suggest you start by reading everything in this forum. http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showforum=39

[heyjimi]

We went to the interview June 8th, the process for me was very straighforward. My financee had all the paperwork, tons and tons. The problem with the interview was her english was not good, when asked question from the vo she really didnt understand and possible gave wrong answers.

 

I think need to file a CRS1, any input would be good, thank you

 

Sorry to hear about your white denial.I been down that road myself,my wifes k3 was denied in Oct.08.We followed up with the CR1,her interview was june 4th and she did pass.When i went to the ACH last monday,i asked if my wife could have her interview in Chinese,in which he said no problem....However,he asked me many questions on ,how do we comunicate.....and i got the sense,Guz is now very concerned about the issue of communication.and i know,there are mant ways to communicate.but Guz they dont know any better,what do they know.?but at the end of the day,it is they who we must account to.....I told the VO,my wife was going to english school,and he was happy to hear this......so my thought,get your wife into english school,and work on her english....and what path you take from their whether k3 or CR1.....i wish you all the best next time around....you can over come,and hell i know it sucks ,like I said i been there.comfort your fiancee,you can overcome this denial.

 

Jimi

[Guest Pommey]

Jimi, agree with you 100%, seeing so much of this now days, abilty to prove a way to communicate (beyond a machine) seems to be Guz's thing now days on bonefide.

 

Realise the usual posters will reply that 3-5 years ago was not a problem for them, but times change.

 

Visits was the thing last year,CCP the year before, etc...etc...etc.

 

generalised yes (shoot me)

 

Folks need to prepare, watch the trends.

 

Said it many times, will say it again. look closely at your cases weakness and address it in preloading or at ACH/ACS.

 

Don't give them a easy out for white/blue.

 

It really is the petitioners responsibility to prepare the beneficiary and present a strong case.

 

very sorry for your white, pm/post get the right advice.

 

There really is a wealth of very smart and intelligent people here who will help you all, but to do it you all have to open up share the truth (in pms if you like) lurkers seem the most common to fail.

 

Lastly imho for f***s sack be there for the interview

[amanda1969]

Jimi, agree with you 100%, seeing so much of this now days, abilty to prove a way to communicate (beyond a machine) seems to be Guz's thing now days on bonefide.

 

Realise the usual posters will reply that 3-5 years ago was not a problem for them, but times change.

 

Visits was the thing last year,CCP the year before, etc...etc...etc.

 

generalised yes (shoot me)

 

Folks need to prepare, watch the trends.

 

Said it many times, will say it again. look closely at your cases weakness and address it in preloading or at ACH/ACS.

 

Don't give them a easy out for white/blue.

 

It really is the petitioners responsibility to prepare the beneficiary and present a strong case.

 

very sorry for your white, pm/post get the right advice.

 

There really is a wealth of very smart and intelligent people here who will help you all, but to do it you all have to open up share the truth (in pms if you like) lurkers seem the most common to fail.

 

Lastly imho for f***s sack be there for the interview

That is why I have never seen for GUZ to deny beneficiaries who speak good English or their major were English learning even though some of them had other cases weakness.

[lougars]

Jimi, agree with you 100%, seeing so much of this now days, abilty to prove a way to communicate (beyond a machine) seems to be Guz's thing now days on bonefide.

 

Realise the usual posters will reply that 3-5 years ago was not a problem for them, but times change.

 

Visits was the thing last year,CCP the year before, etc...etc...etc.

 

generalised yes (shoot me)

 

Folks need to prepare, watch the trends.

 

Said it many times, will say it again. look closely at your cases weakness and address it in preloading or at ACH/ACS.

 

Don't give them a easy out for white/blue.

 

It really is the petitioners responsibility to prepare the beneficiary and present a strong case.

 

very sorry for your white, pm/post get the right advice.

 

There really is a wealth of very smart and intelligent people here who will help you all, but to do it you all have to open up share the truth (in pms if you like) lurkers seem the most common to fail.

 

Lastly imho for f***s sack be there for the interview

That is why I have never seen for GUZ to deny beneficiaries who speak good English or their major were English learning even though some of them had other cases weakness.

 

Yes my Ping was attending English school since last Sept. Will need to check into another school with English instructor. Everything hing elese was documented and brought with us to the interview. EVERYTHING,

English English and English is required.

 

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this fileing.

 

Thanks again

[NUWORLD]

Jimi, agree with you 100%, seeing so much of this now days, abilty to prove a way to communicate (beyond a machine) seems to be Guz's thing now days on bonefide.

 

Realise the usual posters will reply that 3-5 years ago was not a problem for them, but times change.

 

Visits was the thing last year,CCP the year before, etc...etc...etc.

 

generalised yes (shoot me)

 

Folks need to prepare, watch the trends.

 

Said it many times, will say it again. look closely at your cases weakness and address it in preloading or at ACH/ACS.

 

Don't give them a easy out for white/blue.

 

It really is the petitioners responsibility to prepare the beneficiary and present a strong case.

 

very sorry for your white, pm/post get the right advice.

 

There really is a wealth of very smart and intelligent people here who will help you all, but to do it you all have to open up share the truth (in pms if you like) lurkers seem the most common to fail.

 

Lastly imho for f***s sack be there for the interview

That is why I have never seen for GUZ to deny beneficiaries who speak good English or their major were English learning even though some of them had other cases weakness.

 

Yes my Ping was attending English school since last Sept. Will need to check into another school with English instructor. Everything hing elese was documented and brought with us to the interview. EVERYTHING,

English English and English is required.

 

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this fileing.

 

Thanks again

 

 

Sorry about the White.

Like Carl ( warpedbored ) said, White slips are becoming more common.

As for your question.

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this filing.

 

I think your talking about CR1

 

Try starting with this link from VJ.

 

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k3guide

Even though it says K3 it is also used for CR1

It's a good start to begin again.

I'm sure Dan and Randy will be along soon with better help.

 

BTW: Welcome to CFL.

 

Mike

[george lee]

Jimi, agree with you 100%, seeing so much of this now days, abilty to prove a way to communicate (beyond a machine) seems to be Guz's thing now days on bonefide.

 

Realise the usual posters will reply that 3-5 years ago was not a problem for them, but times change.

 

Visits was the thing last year,CCP the year before, etc...etc...etc.

 

generalised yes (shoot me)

 

Folks need to prepare, watch the trends.

 

Said it many times, will say it again. look closely at your cases weakness and address it in preloading or at ACH/ACS.

 

Don't give them a easy out for white/blue.

 

It really is the petitioners responsibility to prepare the beneficiary and present a strong case.

 

very sorry for your white, pm/post get the right advice.

 

There really is a wealth of very smart and intelligent people here who will help you all, but to do it you all have to open up share the truth (in pms if you like) lurkers seem the most common to fail.

 

Lastly imho for f***s sack be there for the interview

That is why I have never seen for GUZ to deny beneficiaries who speak good English or their major were English learning even though some of them had other cases weakness.

 

Yes my Ping was attending English school since last Sept. Will need to check into another school with English instructor. Everything hing elese was documented and brought with us to the interview. EVERYTHING,

English English and English is required.

 

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this fileing.

 

Thanks again

 

 

lougars,

you can view my timeline below to get a feel of things. it took about 1.5 years for my wife to get her visa. i started my CR1 by going to china and marrying her in china. while you are in china, you should get all documents and start filing the I-130 in USA. i did not front load my I-130 and did not attend ACS/ACH in GUZ. my wife received pink due to the following reasons (IMO): both chinese, our first marriage, speak/write chinese, 4 trips to china, wedding banquet with 36 tables in china, video of the wedding banquet, documented all trips together, 7 year as a new york city employee, middle income.

you can also do a search in CFL. it has tons and tons of information regarding CR1s. good luck.

[dnoblett]

You need to find out exactly why it was denied.

 

If it was for "Non-Bonafide" relationship, in many cases USCIS simply closes the case and considers it "expired" because the interview took place after the expiration date on I-129F Notice of Action. Many in this case take the step of marriage and filing for a CR-1 spousal visa.

[dnoblett]

Yes my Ping was attending English school since last Sept. Will need to check into another school with English instructor. Everything hing elese was documented and brought with us to the interview. EVERYTHING,

English English and English is required.

 

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this fileing.

 

Thanks again

 

 

Sorry about the White.

Like Carl ( warpedbored ) said, White slips are becoming more common.

As for your question.

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this filing.

 

I think your talking about CR1

 

Try starting with this link from VJ.

 

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k3guide

Even though it says K3 it is also used for CR1

It's a good start to begin again.

I'm sure Dan and Randy will be along soon with better help.

 

BTW: Welcome to CFL.

 

Mike

About the K-3 and CR-1, K-3 is an OPTIONAL visa type that starts by filing I-130 for a CR-1 visa and then later filing I-129F for the K-3 OPTION.

 

I say optional, because this is what K-3 is OPTIONAL. The K-3 was developed at a time when USCIS was taking a year or longer to process I-130, the K-3 allowed the spouse to travel to the USA and wait for their I-130 to get approved. Recently USCIS has begun the practice of approving I-129F AND I-130 at the same time, the tie te two petitions together and dont approve one without the other, this essentially eliminates the reason for the K-3 (Travel to USA and waiting for I-130 approval), from what I see filing the I-129F after filing I-130 slows the process a bit while USCIS matches up the two petitions.

 

The K-3 is no longer a relevant visa type, it was developed at a time when I-130 for spousal visa was taking a year or longer to process through USCIS, in this case the K-3 allowed entry to the USA to wait for I-130 approval, so that the couple can either adjust status or interview for the spousal visa, since USCIS has begun approving I-129F AND I-130 on the same date, this eliminates the whole reason for K-3 (Entry and waiting for I-130 approval).

 

K-3:

I-130: $355

I-129F: NONE

Consulate: $131

Adjustment Of Status: $1010 I-485

($1496)

 

CR-1

I-130: $355

NVC I-864: $70

NVC Visa fee: $400 ($355+$45)

($825)

 

I see many posts from K-3 holders stating, "Wow this sucks, I am stuck at home because I don't have EAD, DL, etc, or I am having hard time getting added to bank accounts because of NO SSN." K-3 has a 90 day or longer period of limbo while waiting for EAD or Green-card.

 

K-3 was developed at a time when CR-1 was taking much longer that today, NVC and USCIS has greatly streamlined the CR-1 process to the point where K-3 becomes irrelevant.

 

Start with the CR-1 guide. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...page=i130guide1

 

But again first find out the reason the K-1 was denied.

[Randy W]

Jimi, agree with you 100%, seeing so much of this now days, abilty to prove a way to communicate (beyond a machine) seems to be Guz's thing now days on bonefide.

 

Realise the usual posters will reply that 3-5 years ago was not a problem for them, but times change.

 

Visits was the thing last year,CCP the year before, etc...etc...etc.

 

generalised yes (shoot me)

 

Folks need to prepare, watch the trends.

 

Said it many times, will say it again. look closely at your cases weakness and address it in preloading or at ACH/ACS.

 

Don't give them a easy out for white/blue.

 

It really is the petitioners responsibility to prepare the beneficiary and present a strong case.

 

very sorry for your white, pm/post get the right advice.

 

There really is a wealth of very smart and intelligent people here who will help you all, but to do it you all have to open up share the truth (in pms if you like) lurkers seem the most common to fail.

 

Lastly imho for f***s sack be there for the interview

That is why I have never seen for GUZ to deny beneficiaries who speak good English or their major were English learning even though some of them had other cases weakness.

 

 

Your spouse should also be comfortable enough to ask the VO to repeat a question in Chinese when she does not understand.

 

Sometimes, however, she is not given this chance

[NUWORLD]

Yes my Ping was attending English school since last Sept. Will need to check into another school with English instructor. Everything hing elese was documented and brought with us to the interview. EVERYTHING,

English English and English is required.

 

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this fileing.

 

Thanks again

 

 

Sorry about the White.

Like Carl ( warpedbored ) said, White slips are becoming more common.

As for your question.

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this filing.

 

I think your talking about CR1

 

Try starting with this link from VJ.

 

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k3guide

Even though it says K3 it is also used for CR1

It's a good start to begin again.

I'm sure Dan and Randy will be along soon with better help.

 

BTW: Welcome to CFL.

 

Mike

About the K-3 and CR-1, K-3 is an OPTIONAL visa type that starts by filing I-130 for a CR-1 visa and then later filing I-129F for the K-3 OPTION.

 

I say optional, because this is what K-3 is OPTIONAL. The K-3 was developed at a time when USCIS was taking a year or longer to process I-130, the K-3 allowed the spouse to travel to the USA and wait for their I-130 to get approved. Recently USCIS has begun the practice of approving I-129F AND I-130 at the same time, the tie te two petitions together and dont approve one without the other, this essentially eliminates the reason for the K-3 (Travel to USA and waiting for I-130 approval), from what I see filing the I-129F after filing I-130 slows the process a bit while USCIS matches up the two petitions.

 

The K-3 is no longer a relevant visa type, it was developed at a time when I-130 for spousal visa was taking a year or longer to process through USCIS, in this case the K-3 allowed entry to the USA to wait for I-130 approval, so that the couple can either adjust status or interview for the spousal visa, since USCIS has begun approving I-129F AND I-130 on the same date, this eliminates the whole reason for K-3 (Entry and waiting for I-130 approval).

 

K-3:

I-130: $355

I-129F: NONE

Consulate: $131

Adjustment Of Status: $1010 I-485

($1496)

 

CR-1

I-130: $355

NVC I-864: $70

NVC Visa fee: $400 ($355+$45)

($825)

 

I see many posts from K-3 holders stating, "Wow this sucks, I am stuck at home because I don't have EAD, DL, etc, or I am having hard time getting added to bank accounts because of NO SSN." K-3 has a 90 day or longer period of limbo while waiting for EAD or Green-card.

 

K-3 was developed at a time when CR-1 was taking much longer that today, NVC and USCIS has greatly streamlined the CR-1 process to the point where K-3 becomes irrelevant.

 

Start with the CR-1 guide. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...page=i130guide1

 

But again first find out the reason the K-1 was denied.

 

 

Thanks Dan, I knew you would come through.

Yes indeed your right, When i did our CR1 that was years ago and things have changed.

 

Like ya said:

 

I see many posts from K-3 holders stating, "Wow this sucks, I am stuck at home because I don't have EAD, DL, etc, or I am having hard time getting added to bank accounts because of NO SSN." K-3 has a 90 day or longer period of limbo while waiting for EAD or Green-card.

 

My wife has a small hand full of friends in this same boat here in the U.S.

 

Thanks again.

 

Mike

[lougars]

Yes my Ping was attending English school since last Sept. Will need to check into another school with English instructor. Everything hing elese was documented and brought with us to the interview. EVERYTHING,

English English and English is required.

 

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this fileing.

 

Thanks again

 

 

Sorry about the White.

Like Carl ( warpedbored ) said, White slips are becoming more common.

As for your question.

What about the CRS1 can anyone give me any input on this filing.

 

I think your talking about CR1

 

Try starting with this link from VJ.

 

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k3guide

Even though it says K3 it is also used for CR1

It's a good start to begin again.

I'm sure Dan and Randy will be along soon with better help.

 

BTW: Welcome to CFL.

 

Mike

About the K-3 and CR-1, K-3 is an OPTIONAL visa type that starts by filing I-130 for a CR-1 visa and then later filing I-129F for the K-3 OPTION.

 

I say optional, because this is what K-3 is OPTIONAL. The K-3 was developed at a time when USCIS was taking a year or longer to process I-130, the K-3 allowed the spouse to travel to the USA and wait for their I-130 to get approved. Recently USCIS has begun the practice of approving I-129F AND I-130 at the same time, the tie te two petitions together and dont approve one without the other, this essentially eliminates the reason for the K-3 (Travel to USA and waiting for I-130 approval), from what I see filing the I-129F after filing I-130 slows the process a bit while USCIS matches up the two petitions.

 

The K-3 is no longer a relevant visa type, it was developed at a time when I-130 for spousal visa was taking a year or longer to process through USCIS, in this case the K-3 allowed entry to the USA to wait for I-130 approval, so that the couple can either adjust status or interview for the spousal visa, since USCIS has begun approving I-129F AND I-130 on the same date, this eliminates the whole reason for K-3 (Entry and waiting for I-130 approval).

 

K-3:

I-130: $355

I-129F: NONE

Consulate: $131

Adjustment Of Status: $1010 I-485

($1496)

 

CR-1

I-130: $355

NVC I-864: $70

NVC Visa fee: $400 ($355+$45)

($825)

 

I see many posts from K-3 holders stating, "Wow this sucks, I am stuck at home because I don't have EAD, DL, etc, or I am having hard time getting added to bank accounts because of NO SSN." K-3 has a 90 day or longer period of limbo while waiting for EAD or Green-card.

 

K-3 was developed at a time when CR-1 was taking much longer that today, NVC and USCIS has greatly streamlined the CR-1 process to the point where K-3 becomes irrelevant.

 

Start with the CR-1 guide. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...page=i130guide1

 

But again first find out the reason the K-1 was denied.

 

 

Thanks Dan, I knew you would come through.

Yes indeed your right, When i did our CR1 that was years ago and things have changed.

 

Like ya said:

 

I see many posts from K-3 holders stating, "Wow this sucks, I am stuck at home because I don't have EAD, DL, etc, or I am having hard time getting added to bank accounts because of NO SSN." K-3 has a 90 day or longer period of limbo while waiting for EAD or Green-card.

 

My wife has a small hand full of friends in this same boat here in the U.S.

 

Thanks again.

 

Mike

 

Thank you for the input, you all are very helpful in this process.

I am now back in the USA, pissed of course with the process.

At the interview the white standard denial letter was given, not a bonifide relationship. Of course we had the kitchen sink all the paperwork and supporting evidence. I did attend the ACH and ASH, asked questions. Of course the reason for the denial are not told to you, but i ascertain the lack of speaking english was the main problem.

 

It was my 3rd trip to china to be with my ping. All the other paperwork was in order.

 

We of course was married and filed the marriage in China a few days after the denial.

Am I correct in thinking the only filing should be is with the CR-1? and not to follow up with the K-3 filing after? little confused with this, thank you for any input on the process.

[Yuanyang]

So sorry to hear this. It's cruel and fluent English is not required; but they test to see if real communications could take place.

File the CR1 in the states and wait. Ours took 16 months.

Good Luck!