Can CR1 Visa holder get driving writen test before SSN available?

[Tang Kai Ling]

My wife is coming soon, we are planning to give her driving writen test first week she arrives so that we can use Vacation & Holiday time to prastice. DMV does not give me an positive answer if she can get a test without SSN. They ask me to provide I-94, she does not has any I-94 since her visa is CR1 .

Anyone has experience pls comment? I am living in Ohio.

[Richard & Li]

It depends on State law.

 

I would go ahead and try it. The worst that could happen is they'll say no (and tell you exactly what is required).

Edited December 2, 2008 by Richard & Li (see edit history)

[Randy W]

The I-94 is the arrival-departure record she fills out on the plane. It will show her legal presence and for how long along with the I-551 stamp in her passport.

 

AND she should get her green card in the mail in a couple of weeks

Edited December 2, 2008 by Randy W (see edit history)

[dnoblett]

CR-1 is NOT an NON-IMMIGRANT so will not have an I-94. I-94 card is only required to be carried by NON-Immigrants like K-Visas and visitors, a CR-1 is an Immigrant and in some cases never "Departs" the USA so has no need for a Departure Record (I-94)

 

The I-551 stamp in passport should indicate at least 1 year, the I-551 stamp is proof of legal presence until you get the actual green-card in the mail.

 

Virtually all states require SSN for driver's license.

 

Wait 2 weeks or so after entry to the USA, and then visit SSA and order a number, sometimes DMV will accept a letter from SSA indicating a card is on order.

Edited December 2, 2008 by dnoblett (see edit history)

[NUWORLD]

My wife is coming soon, we are planning to give her driving writen test first week she arrives so that we can use Vacation & Holiday time to prastice. DMV does not give me an positive answer if she can get a test without SSN. They ask me to provide I-94, she does not has any I-94 since her visa is CR1 .

Anyone has experience pls comment? I am living in Ohio.

 

 

'Tang Kai Ling' I too live in ohio and my wife is CR1 too.

As for drivers test?

 

Like others have said MOST STATES require SS#And Ohio is the same.

We waited the two weeks after she arived went to SS office.

Filled out all the papers.

very quick and easy.

Two weeks after that, her SS card arived in the mail.

 

Next day, Went to BMV and had no problems.

 

Good luck.

 

Mike

[Toplaw]

While it will probably be a whole lot easier to get the SSN before applying, a SSN is not required under Ohio law. It is only required if a SSN has ever been issued.

 

But you must still provide a Primary Document that contains the full name and date of birth, and there is a list of what documents are acceptable for this purpose.

 

One acceptable Primary Document that you might have would be a USCIS document that is original and valid (i.e. the I-94 contains the full name and date of birth), or since she is from another country, her passport accompanied by appropriate USCIS documents (presumably the I-94 or the Visa would suffice for this purpose) will satisfy the statute.

 

And you must also provide a Secondary Document, and again a list of acceptable documents is provided. The Secondary Document must just establish that she is the person who signed the application.

 

A foreign birth certificate accompanied by a translation by an approved translator if the birth certificate is not in English will suffice, as would a copy of your marriage license).

 

But don't take my word for it, as I didn't spend much time reviewing the statute. Here are the rules.

 

 

 

* Ohio Administrative Code

* » 4501:1 Bureau of Motor Vehicles

* » Chapter 4501:1-1 Driver Licenses

 

4501:1-1-21 Acceptable identification to be submitted along with an application for a driver's license, commercial driver's license, and identification card.

 

(A) The person who signs the application for a driver¡¯s license, commercial driver¡¯s license, identification card, or a duplicate of any of the foregoing, shall present along with the application two identification documents establishing that he is the individual whose signature appears on the application. The types of documents that are suitable for this purpose shall establish the date of birth and social security number, if ever assigned to the person. A cosigner for minor applicant must present the same two documents. The primary document shall contain the full name and date of birth and shall be verifiable. The social security number shall be on either the primary document or the secondary document. The name on the documents shall match the person¡¯s current name unless a change of name is established by court order, marriage certificate, or marriage license. The court order may be a primary or secondary document. Only original documents or a copy bearing an original certification by the issuing authority shall be acceptable. Uncertified copies or copies of certified copies shall not be acceptable. Failure to provide two acceptable documents to prove both the date of birth and social security number, if ever assigned, shall result in the denial of the application.

 

( The following are acceptable primary documents: driver¡¯s license from any state, with photograph, current or expired not more than six months; birth certificate, either an original or certified copy, with a seal and issued by an appropriate governmental agency; state issued identification card from any state, with photograph, current or expired not more than six months; United States citizen and immigration services (USCIS) documents which are original and valid, or like documents issued by the successor agency to the USCIS; a certified copy of a court order containing the full name and date of birth; a military identification with photograph; a valid passport, either United States or Canadian, with photograph, or if from another country, a passport accompanied by appropriate USCIS documents; state issued learner¡¯s permit from any state, with photograph, current or expired not more than six months. The following are all acceptable secondary documents: official social security card or number identification (numident) printout but not a metal card; bureau of Indian affairs card or Indian treaty card but not a tribal identification card; certified copy of a court order with or without date of birth; credit card; employer identification card with photograph; foreign birth certificate accompanied by a translation by an approved translator if the birth certificate is not in English; health insurance card; internal revenue service or state tax form issued by the appropriate governmental agency within the past three years, but no W-2 forms; marriage certificate or license; medical records from a doctor or hospital; military dependent identification with photograph; military discharge separation papers; gun permit with photograph; pilot¡¯s license; a certified copy of a school record or transcript; a student identification card, with photograph, issued by a school or university; vehicle title but no vehicle registrations; voter registration card but no Ohio voter registration cards; and welfare card. If the person who signs the application does not provide identification as required by this rule, the application shall not be accepted by the registrar of motor vehicles or any deputy registrar. Additional documentation may be required if the above documentation provided is questionable.

 

© Notwithstanding any other provisions of this rule, a current, valid offender identification card issued by the Ohio department of rehabilitation and correction containing the person¡¯s photograph, name, date of birth, and social security number shall constitute acceptable evidence of the person¡¯s identity for the issuance of an Ohio temporary permit, driver¡¯s license, commercial driver¡¯s license, or Ohio identification card. If any of the required information is missing from the offender identification card, the application shall be denied.

 

(D) Notwithstanding any other provisions of this rule, a current, valid DYS identification card issued by the Ohio department of youth services containing the person¡¯s photograph, name, date of birth, and social security number shall constitute acceptable evidence of the person¡¯s identity for the issuance of an Ohio temporary permit, driver¡¯s license, commercial driver¡¯s license, or Ohio identification card. If any of the required information is missing from the DYS identification card, the application shall be denied.

 

(E) Notwithstanding any other provisions of this rule, an Ohio driver¡¯s license, Ohio commercial driver¡¯s license (CDL), or Ohio identification card, which is current or has been expired for less than six months and for which the person¡¯s social security number has been verified in the records of the bureau of motor vehicles shall constitute acceptable evidence of the person¡¯s identity for all transactions conducted by the registrar or any deputy registrar. If the social security number has not been verified in the records of the bureau of motor vehicles, then the person shall be required to present a second acceptable document verifying the person¡¯s social security number.

 

Effective: 02/01/2008

[NUWORLD]

While it will probably be a whole lot easier to get the SSN before applying, a SSN is not required under Ohio law. It is only required if a SSN has ever been issued.

 

But you must still provide a Primary Document that contains the full name and date of birth, and there is a list of what documents are acceptable for this purpose.

 

One acceptable Primary Document that you might have would be a USCIS document that is original and valid (i.e. the I-94 contains the full name and date of birth), or since she is from another country, her passport accompanied by appropriate USCIS documents (presumably the I-94 or the Visa would suffice for this purpose) will satisfy the statute.

 

And you must also provide a Secondary Document, and again a list of acceptable documents is provided. The Secondary Document must just establish that she is the person who signed the application.

 

A foreign birth certificate accompanied by a translation by an approved translator if the birth certificate is not in English will suffice, as would a copy of your marriage license).

 

But don't take my word for it, as I didn't spend much time reviewing the statute. Here are the rules.

 

 

 

* Ohio Administrative Code

* » 4501:1 Bureau of Motor Vehicles

* » Chapter 4501:1-1 Driver Licenses

 

4501:1-1-21 Acceptable identification to be submitted along with an application for a driver's license, commercial driver's license, and identification card.

 

(A) The person who signs the application for a driver¡¯s license, commercial driver¡¯s license, identification card, or a duplicate of any of the foregoing, shall present along with the application two identification documents establishing that he is the individual whose signature appears on the application. The types of documents that are suitable for this purpose shall establish the date of birth and social security number, if ever assigned to the person. A cosigner for minor applicant must present the same two documents. The primary document shall contain the full name and date of birth and shall be verifiable. The social security number shall be on either the primary document or the secondary document. The name on the documents shall match the person¡¯s current name unless a change of name is established by court order, marriage certificate, or marriage license. The court order may be a primary or secondary document. Only original documents or a copy bearing an original certification by the issuing authority shall be acceptable. Uncertified copies or copies of certified copies shall not be acceptable. Failure to provide two acceptable documents to prove both the date of birth and social security number, if ever assigned, shall result in the denial of the application.

 

(B) The following are acceptable primary documents: driver¡¯s license from any state, with photograph, current or expired not more than six months; birth certificate, either an original or certified copy, with a seal and issued by an appropriate governmental agency; state issued identification card from any state, with photograph, current or expired not more than six months; United States citizen and immigration services (USCIS) documents which are original and valid, or like documents issued by the successor agency to the USCIS; a certified copy of a court order containing the full name and date of birth; a military identification with photograph; a valid passport, either United States or Canadian, with photograph, or if from another country, a passport accompanied by appropriate USCIS documents; state issued learner¡¯s permit from any state, with photograph, current or expired not more than six months. The following are all acceptable secondary documents: official social security card or number identification (numident) printout but not a metal card; bureau of Indian affairs card or Indian treaty card but not a tribal identification card; certified copy of a court order with or without date of birth; credit card; employer identification card with photograph; foreign birth certificate accompanied by a translation by an approved translator if the birth certificate is not in English; health insurance card; internal revenue service or state tax form issued by the appropriate governmental agency within the past three years, but no W-2 forms; marriage certificate or license; medical records from a doctor or hospital; military dependent identification with photograph; military discharge separation papers; gun permit with photograph; pilot¡¯s license; a certified copy of a school record or transcript; a student identification card, with photograph, issued by a school or university; vehicle title but no vehicle registrations; voter registration card but no Ohio voter registration cards; and welfare card. If the person who signs the application does not provide identification as required by this rule, the application shall not be accepted by the registrar of motor vehicles or any deputy registrar. Additional documentation may be required if the above documentation provided is questionable.

 

© Notwithstanding any other provisions of this rule, a current, valid offender identification card issued by the Ohio department of rehabilitation and correction containing the person¡¯s photograph, name, date of birth, and social security number shall constitute acceptable evidence of the person¡¯s identity for the issuance of an Ohio temporary permit, driver¡¯s license, commercial driver¡¯s license, or Ohio identification card. If any of the required information is missing from the offender identification card, the application shall be denied.

 

(D) Notwithstanding any other provisions of this rule, a current, valid DYS identification card issued by the Ohio department of youth services containing the person¡¯s photograph, name, date of birth, and social security number shall constitute acceptable evidence of the person¡¯s identity for the issuance of an Ohio temporary permit, driver¡¯s license, commercial driver¡¯s license, or Ohio identification card. If any of the required information is missing from the DYS identification card, the application shall be denied.

 

(E) Notwithstanding any other provisions of this rule, an Ohio driver¡¯s license, Ohio commercial driver¡¯s license (CDL), or Ohio identification card, which is current or has been expired for less than six months and for which the person¡¯s social security number has been verified in the records of the bureau of motor vehicles shall constitute acceptable evidence of the person¡¯s identity for all transactions conducted by the registrar or any deputy registrar. If the social security number has not been verified in the records of the bureau of motor vehicles, then the person shall be required to present a second acceptable document verifying the person¡¯s social security number.

 

Effective: 02/01/2008

 

Yes, This is true for Ohio, BUT Every time i (Myself) go into the BMV to do ANYTHING! they always ask for drivers license/ID and SS card.

 

WHY? they ask for the SS card? I have no idea.

But i do know, While waiting in line to be served.

There are signs everywhere stating they WILL! ask for SS card.

 

This was the first thing they asked from my wife plus her I-94 card.

She is CR1 and no need for I-94. Just her passport with the I-551 stamp

 

Seeing she had no U.S. ID card at the time (That is why we were there) she just gave them her Passport ( With the I-551 stamp) and her SS card and within 5 minutes she had her Ohio stated ID card.

 

Now were just working on the learning to drive part.

[Missingyou]

Not sure how many here is from WA. For DMV here, you need to show legal residency in WA and if you have no SSN, they will require you sign a piece of paper stating that you have legally came into US and not able to obtain SSN at the moment.

 

My hus got his driver lic already. As for written test here, they check nothing. It is for the road test part that they begin all the questions and want to see paperwork.

[Tang Kai Ling]

Thanks everyone sharing your experience.

We will go bring her passport( with I-551 ), birthday/marriage certificates trying to get a test first week she arrives. Hope it works.