A "NEW" stimulus package

[sweattrl1]

It one thing to have decided not to give it to someone without a SSN number... but to refuse a partial amount to USCs who file and pay taxes and who happened to have filed [jointly] with someone not yet having a SSN... maybe still out of the country... and denying ALL people on the tax return ANY money is beyond comprehension...

 

I can't believe this honestly... denying USCs in this way...

 

 

Yes David.

 

Not only was mine and my new wife's, who had the ITIN denied, but also my two minor children from my previous marriage (both USC's), whom I always claim on my yearly Form 1040. This was a clear cut case of 'disenfranchisement' for so many USC taxpayers !!!

 

There was a newspaper article out last May, which spoke to this. It seems that a very vocal anti-immigrant lobby group in D.C., was so worried about illegals getting the benefit, they had language quickly inserted which fuc..d many of us and also many US servicemen, who are married to foreign nationals. Following is an excerpt:

 

The group is (FAIR) Federation for American Immigration Reform, who lobbied against a version of the bill that didn't require a Social Security number for the rebate, worried about the prospect of illegal immigrants receiving check. Spokesman Ira Mehlman said the exclusion of legal immigrants and Americans married to non-citizens was an [unintended consequence].

 

"If you're serving abroad and haven't been able to file the paperwork, they should make an exception," he said. "If one spouse is a citizen, is here legally and is filing, they should probably be entitled."

 

Many of the couples snagged by this provision weren't aware that filing taxes using the foreign spouse's IRS-issued Taxpayer Identification Number instead of a Social Security number would cut them out.

 

I wrote to Sen. Feinstein's office in S.F. and in D.C. complaining about the situation and after a six week wait, I received a very generic reply about the overall provisions of the stimulus package; obviously, my detailed letter was not even read, they just pushed a button on the response machine, when they saw what the subject was.

 

I hope they fix this, if another stimulus is truly in the works again.

trust me it is fixed , you don't need to worry,

[NUWORLD]

My wife and I did not receive the stimulus payment because she has an ITIN. Filing married and separate was not a good option for us.

After I explained all of this to her, she was somewhat ok with this until I told her who the USA borrowed the money from.

You could always file an ammended return and change to filing jointly, no use loosing that money as well.

 

Same here! My wife did not receive the stimulus payment.

Even though she has a SS# and i have always filed jointly for the pass two years.

 

So, Try to explain that to a Chinese woman!!

 

I guess steeling from peter to pay paul or something like that.

[LeeFisher3]

It one thing to have decided not to give it to someone without a SSN number... but to refuse a partial amount to USCs who file and pay taxes and who happened to have filed [jointly] with someone not yet having a SSN... maybe still out of the country... and denying ALL people on the tax return ANY money is beyond comprehension...

 

I can't believe this honestly... denying USCs in this way...

 

 

Yes David.

 

Not only was mine and my new wife's, who had the ITIN denied, but also my two minor children from my previous marriage (both USC's), whom I always claim on my yearly Form 1040. This was a clear cut case of 'disenfranchisement' for so many USC taxpayers !!!

 

There was a newspaper article out last May, which spoke to this. It seems that a very vocal anti-immigrant lobby group in D.C., was so worried about illegals getting the benefit, they had language quickly inserted which fuc..d many of us and also many US servicemen, who are married to foreign nationals. Following is an excerpt:

 

The group is (FAIR) Federation for American Immigration Reform, who lobbied against a version of the bill that didn't require a Social Security number for the rebate, worried about the prospect of illegal immigrants receiving check. Spokesman Ira Mehlman said the exclusion of legal immigrants and Americans married to non-citizens was an [unintended consequence].

 

"If you're serving abroad and haven't been able to file the paperwork, they should make an exception," he said. "If one spouse is a citizen, is here legally and is filing, they should probably be entitled."

 

Many of the couples snagged by this provision weren't aware that filing taxes using the foreign spouse's IRS-issued Taxpayer Identification Number instead of a Social Security number would cut them out.

 

I wrote to Sen. Feinstein's office in S.F. and in D.C. complaining about the situation and after a six week wait, I received a very generic reply about the overall provisions of the stimulus package; obviously, my detailed letter was not even read, they just pushed a button on the response machine, when they saw what the subject was.

 

I hope they fix this, if another stimulus is truly in the works again.

trust me it is fixed , you don't need to worry,

Trust is not a word I usually apply to Congress unless it's a case of trusting them to take care of themselves.

 

Have you seen something published that extends the exception made for active duty military to cover all family related visa's?

[chilton747]

My wife and I did not receive the stimulus payment because she has an ITIN. Filing married and separate was not a good option for us.

After I explained all of this to her, she was somewhat ok with this until I told her who the USA borrowed the money from.

You could always file an ammended return and change to filing jointly, no use loosing that money as well.

 

We did file jointly and that is why we did not get the stimulus payment. It's water under the bridge now.

[mikepellicore]

Aren't we supposed to receive our stimulus money when we file our 2008 tax return?

[LeeFisher3]

Aren't we supposed to receive our stimulus money when we file our 2008 tax return?

If you filed an amended return replacing an ITIN with an SSN that is the plan.

 

With the discussion of a NEW stimulus package it would be nice if they didn't use the same half baked rules to prevent distribution to illegal aliens they used the last time.

[Randy W]

There is supposed to be a worksheet in the 2008 package that can be used to claim a rebate that you didn't get - not clear if it will address the ITIN issue, though.

[Randy W]

This is what Turbo-Tax says about it

i didn't get a rebate because I used my Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) when I filed. If I get a Social Security number this year, can I amend my 2007 return and get a rebate?

No. You'll need to wait until 2009 when you file your 2008 tax return.

how can I get my rebate in 2009?

The instructions for filing a 2008 tax return will include a worksheet to help you determine if you qualify.

[jtaylo69]

Hey I Agree 110% on this. But I can't help but wonder about the possibility of seeking legal advice & possibly seeking a class action lawsuit? I mean, if other "Minority" groups ac do it & win, Why can't we? It would just mean us finding a a damn good law firm with huge balls and not afraid to stand up to those clowns.

 

What do ya think? Could it work?