steveandrong Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 was just wondering...the mysterious "touches" that happen along this process, do they stop at some point?...or do these occur throughout the complete process?....just i do not want to waste my time logging in to the uscis website to look for something that will not happen Link to comment
dnoblett Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 USCIS logs any time they look or work on a petition, can be for anything Name-checks, adding something to the file... You may see touches long after a case has been approved and completed. Link to comment
Guest Rob & Jin Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 was just wondering...the mysterious "touches" that happen along this process, do they stop at some point?...or do these occur throughout the complete process?....just i do not want to waste my time logging in to the uscis website to look for something that will not happen Have never ever been touched by USCIS, either for my geen card , citizenship, or for this K-1. Link to comment
Shenzhen K-1 Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 was just wondering...the mysterious "touches" that happen along this process, do they stop at some point?...or do these occur throughout the complete process?....just i do not want to waste my time logging in to the uscis website to look for something that will not happen We went from accepted to approval without one touch or anything else!! I would be happy with a P-3 touch, brush off or anything else!!! Link to comment
Daviation Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 We never had "touches" either. With P4 interview next week - 11 Dec, the USCIS web site still shows "Case Received and Pending" for status. The lack of "touches" left us frustrated for months (count 'em 5) between P2 and P3 as we were constantly told by DOS that our package was "stuck in China customs". Best Wishes, David Link to comment
I love Sunshine Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 There really isn't any relationship between a touch and an approval. About the only thing you can guarantee is that your petition hasn't been lost! We had one touch about a month after our P1. I suspect the workload was initially given to one person to process, and she/he went on holiday, was too overloaded, etc. and it was moved to someone else. No touches after that until BAM! Approval! Some get many touches, some get none as others have mentioned. But trying to analyze the touches could prove as damaging to your health as eating cheetos during the long wait! Link to comment
jim_julian Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I have 5 cases sitting in the internet portfolio. They are now all approved. One is still listed as pending. A few months ago all the days and months stayed the same but the years flipped to 2007. It's an accurate, well designed system. Luckily to protect this information we must change our passwords every 90 days ... sigh Link to comment
Claire Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Oh now I see what "Touch" mean here. Link to comment
Guest Rob & Jin Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 (edited) We never had "touches" either. With P4 interview next week - 11 Dec, the USCIS web site still shows "Case Received and Pending" for status. The lack of "touches" left us frustrated for months (count 'em 5) between P2 and P3 as we were constantly told by DOS that our package was "stuck in China customs". Best Wishes, David Of course after petition approval by USCIS (NOA-2)there will be no further touches for p-3 OR P-4 as thats DOS/GUZ.Therefore will not be "touched " by USCIS web site. So it seems the only way to keep updated with DOS is through constant phone calling. Edited December 7, 2007 by Rob & Jin (see edit history) Link to comment
Shenzhen K-1 Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 We never had "touches" either. With P4 interview next week - 11 Dec, the USCIS web site still shows "Case Received and Pending" for status. The lack of "touches" left us frustrated for months (count 'em 5) between P2 and P3 as we were constantly told by DOS that our package was "stuck in China customs". Best Wishes, David Of course after petition approval by USCIS (NOA-2)there will be no further touches for p-3 OR P-4 as thats DOS/GUZ.Therefore will not be "touched " by USCIS web site. So it seems the only way to keep updated with DOS is through constant phone calling. It has been awhile since I have been "touched"!!!! Link to comment
izus Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 i have no idea what this means? Link to comment
jim_julian Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Bill!! ... this is the second instance ... how can you be here so long and not know this "stuff"?? Touches ... Pink ... White ... Blue ... The only conclusion I can come to is that your Lao Po is toooo beautiful and has you totally distracted! Link to comment
MikeandRong Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Bill!! ... this is the second instance ... how can you be here so long and not know this "stuff"?? Touches ... Pink ... White ... Blue ... The only conclusion I can come to is that your Lao Po is toooo beautiful and has you totally distracted! In answer to your question about touches. An Adjudicators job performance is based on several factors. 1) how many files (petitions) you process everyday 2) number of applications "kicked back" because you made a mistake and they shouldn't have been approved and 3) attention to details and how many errors you make. Management gets a report on each Adjudicator (we all have a individual ID #) showing the total # of petitions processed, number kicked back and how many errors we made. They can call this up anytime and we were required to keep a daily tally of the work we did. When performance appraisal time came around, you would discuss your individual performance with your supervisor. That¡¯s one of the reasons why you might see that your application was "touched" several times on a given day but no change in status. The adjudicator began working it (touch), went to lunch (touch), came back from lunch (touch) and finished reviewing it and sent it off to be processed (touch). Its touched when it goes back into the queue and etc... Keep in mind every time a file changes hands whether its signed out to an Adjudicator or some staff person, its gets "wanded" into the system so they can track who specifically has the file. Each file has a scannable bar code. Sometimes you'd be working a file that has someone else working another component of the file or one of the family members. We would always try to keep family members together and approve them at the same time. Getting back to the way it works, If at any time you weren't processing enough petitions you would usually be talked to by your supervisor. Generally, this was only if there appeared to be a "trend" in your productivity. Everyone has days when they could process a lot vs. other "slower" days. A lot depends on the complexity of the petition you were working and some other "bean counting" tricks you could use to keep your #'s up. Everyone is trained on certain petitions first and progresses to the more complicated ones. This way they have the more experienced Adjudicators working the more difficult petitions like the 485's etcr question, this may help you understand touches. Link to comment
rogerinca Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Bill!! ... this is the second instance ... how can you be here so long and not know this "stuff"?? Touches ... Pink ... White ... Blue ... The only conclusion I can come to is that your Lao Po is toooo beautiful and has you totally distracted! In answer to your question about touches. An Adjudicators job performance is based on several factors. 1) how many files (petitions) you process everyday 2) number of applications "kicked back" because you made a mistake and they shouldn't have been approved and 3) attention to details and how many errors you make. Management gets a report on each Adjudicator (we all have a individual ID #) showing the total # of petitions processed, number kicked back and how many errors we made. They can call this up anytime and we were required to keep a daily tally of the work we did. When performance appraisal time came around, you would discuss your individual performance with your supervisor. That¡¯s one of the reasons why you might see that your application was "touched" several times on a given day but no change in status. The adjudicator began working it (touch), went to lunch (touch), came back from lunch (touch) and finished reviewing it and sent it off to be processed (touch). Its touched when it goes back into the queue and etc... Keep in mind every time a file changes hands whether its signed out to an Adjudicator or some staff person, its gets "wanded" into the system so they can track who specifically has the file. Each file has a scannable bar code. Sometimes you'd be working a file that has someone else working another component of the file or one of the family members. We would always try to keep family members together and approve them at the same time. Getting back to the way it works, If at any time you weren't processing enough petitions you would usually be talked to by your supervisor. Generally, this was only if there appeared to be a "trend" in your productivity. Everyone has days when they could process a lot vs. other "slower" days. A lot depends on the complexity of the petition you were working and some other "bean counting" tricks you could use to keep your #'s up. Everyone is trained on certain petitions first and progresses to the more complicated ones. This way they have the more experienced Adjudicators working the more difficult petitions like the 485's etcr question, this may help you understand touches. Great overview Michael !! I understand and can relate to all you have outlined here. Law enforcement, supervision/management oversight, works in similar fashion. Part of the reason why arrest/citation quotas, were legislatively outlawed in California in 1977/1980. Link to comment
Guest Rob & Jin Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Bill!! ... this is the second instance ... how can you be here so long and not know this "stuff"?? Touches ... Pink ... White ... Blue ... The only conclusion I can come to is that your Lao Po is toooo beautiful and has you totally distracted! In answer to your question about touches. An Adjudicators job performance is based on several factors. 1) how many files (petitions) you process everyday 2) number of applications "kicked back" because you made a mistake and they shouldn't have been approved and 3) attention to details and how many errors you make. Management gets a report on each Adjudicator (we all have a individual ID #) showing the total # of petitions processed, number kicked back and how many errors we made. They can call this up anytime and we were required to keep a daily tally of the work we did. When performance appraisal time came around, you would discuss your individual performance with your supervisor. That¡¯s one of the reasons why you might see that your application was "touched" several times on a given day but no change in status. The adjudicator began working it (touch), went to lunch (touch), came back from lunch (touch) and finished reviewing it and sent it off to be processed (touch). Its touched when it goes back into the queue and etc... Keep in mind every time a file changes hands whether its signed out to an Adjudicator or some staff person, its gets "wanded" into the system so they can track who specifically has the file. Each file has a scannable bar code. Sometimes you'd be working a file that has someone else working another component of the file or one of the family members. We would always try to keep family members together and approve them at the same time. Getting back to the way it works, If at any time you weren't processing enough petitions you would usually be talked to by your supervisor. Generally, this was only if there appeared to be a "trend" in your productivity. Everyone has days when they could process a lot vs. other "slower" days. A lot depends on the complexity of the petition you were working and some other "bean counting" tricks you could use to keep your #'s up. Everyone is trained on certain petitions first and progresses to the more complicated ones. This way they have the more experienced Adjudicators working the more difficult petitions like the 485's etcr question, this may help you understand touches. Guess you work/ed there ? Link to comment
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