hankster Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Lily passed the written part of the TN driver's license test a couple of weeks ago and received her learner's permit. I scheduled the driving portion for yesterday. We arrived on time and filled out the paperwork with the female examiner. I noticed her East TN accent was very heavy and Lily was having trouble understanding her. Hell, I was born here, and I was having trouble understanding her. Lily reads and writes english very good, and can understand most people's spoken english with no problem. The examiner took Lily to the car and said, "go o'var an git in". Lily said very pleasantly, "sorry I donot understand". I started to interpret for Lily, but the examiner told me to stay 20 ft. away. The examiner barked another instruction which I couldn't make out at that distance, and again Lily didn't understand. At this point, the examiner turned to me, waved her hands like an umpire calling someone "safe", and said, "No communication, No Test. She'll keel both of us'ns. Yuns needs to larn hern batter anglish" (I'm not exaggerating). I started to lose it and you can guess what I wanted to say to her, but I maintained. Hell, we got thru the GUZ ordeal with no problem, so I know we can deal with this. I'm glad I didn't lose it because the examiner apparently had discretionary authority to not mark this down as a "failed" test. She said we would be able to to reschedule and retake the test anytime, but we should "larn hern batter anglish" for the next time.We left with Lily in tears. Took me the rest of the day to make her feel better and realize it wasn't her fault. We'll reschedule at a different examing station in a couple of weeks. Hank Link to comment
TootTaLu Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 She'll keel both of us'ns. Yuns needs to larn hern batter anglish" (I'm not exaggerating). Link to comment
yuehan123 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 similar thing happened to my wife here in Florida. My wife and the examineress walked outside, had some mis-communication to start with, got in the car, drove around one row of cars in the parking lot and returned- 'failed.' We went to a different office the next day. She passed without trouble and everybody had smiles. There just ain't no pleasing some people. Link to comment
jim_julian Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hank, you probably already thought of this, but ... I would be very upfront when next you two go for the road test. When you sign in mount your very best smiles and tell them that Lily is new to TN and has trouble understanding "our" accent; request that they steer her toward someone who doesn't have much of an accent ... could work ... Link to comment
tywy_99 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Lily passed the written part of the TN driver's license test a couple of weeks ago and received her learner's permit. I scheduled the driving portion for yesterday. We arrived on time and filled out the paperwork with the female examiner. I noticed her East TN accent was very heavy and Lily was having trouble understanding her. Hell, I was born here, and I was having trouble understanding her. Lily reads and writes english very good, and can understand most people's spoken english with no problem. The examiner took Lily to the car and said, "go o'var an git in". Lily said very pleasantly, "sorry I donot understand". I started to interpret for Lily, but the examiner told me to stay 20 ft. away. The examiner barked another instruction which I couldn't make out at that distance, and again Lily didn't understand. At this point, the examiner turned to me, waved her hands like an umpire calling someone "safe", and said, "No communication, No Test. She'll keel both of us'ns. Yuns needs to larn hern batter anglish" (I'm not exaggerating). I started to lose it and you can guess what I wanted to say to her, but I maintained. Hell, we got thru the GUZ ordeal with no problem, so I know we can deal with this. I'm glad I didn't lose it because the examiner apparently had discretionary authority to not mark this down as a "failed" test. She said we would be able to to reschedule and retake the test anytime, but we should "larn hern batter anglish" for the next time.We left with Lily in tears. Took me the rest of the day to make her feel better and realize it wasn't her fault. We'll reschedule at a different examing station in a couple of weeks. HankIn the commonwealth of Virginia, a person has 3 chances to pass. If they fail on the third try, they will have to wait 90 days before taking the test again. My wife passed on the third try.The first two trys are a story to their own!... Link to comment
tonado Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Wow. Taking the driving test only two weeks getting the permit. She must have driven in China. Keep trying. It took me 3 tries to get my license. Link to comment
Yuanyang Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Lao po passed her written and driving test on the same day (Yes, she drove in China too). The behavior of the Examiner may have actually have been a violation of you state or even Federal law by excluding her due to language difficulties (mostly on the Examiner's part it per your story). Especially when all that was needed was a little patience on her part. Link to comment
Randy W Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Lao po passed her written and driving test on the same day (Yes, she drove in China too). The behavior of the Examiner may have actually have been a violation of you state or even Federal law by excluding her due to language difficulties (mostly on the Examiner's part it per your story). Especially when all that was needed was a little patience on her part.Especially considering that they have to be able to deal with deaf people. Most of the driving testers are adequately fluent in 'pointing' to be able to get through a driving test with anyone. Link to comment
Steve and Aiwen Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Lily passed the written part of the TN driver's license test a couple of weeks ago and received her learner's permit. I scheduled the driving portion for yesterday. We arrived on time and filled out the paperwork with the female examiner. I noticed her East TN accent was very heavy and Lily was having trouble understanding her. Hell, I was born here, and I was having trouble understanding her. Lily reads and writes english very good, and can understand most people's spoken english with no problem. The examiner took Lily to the car and said, "go o'var an git in". Lily said very pleasantly, "sorry I donot understand". I started to interpret for Lily, but the examiner told me to stay 20 ft. away. The examiner barked another instruction which I couldn't make out at that distance, and again Lily didn't understand. At this point, the examiner turned to me, waved her hands like an umpire calling someone "safe", and said, "No communication, No Test. She'll keel both of us'ns. Yuns needs to larn hern batter anglish" (I'm not exaggerating). I started to lose it and you can guess what I wanted to say to her, but I maintained. Hell, we got thru the GUZ ordeal with no problem, so I know we can deal with this. I'm glad I didn't lose it because the examiner apparently had discretionary authority to not mark this down as a "failed" test. She said we would be able to to reschedule and retake the test anytime, but we should "larn hern batter anglish" for the next time.We left with Lily in tears. Took me the rest of the day to make her feel better and realize it wasn't her fault. We'll reschedule at a different examing station in a couple of weeks. Hank Shoot 'far, Hank, ya'll fergot tuh brang the jug, you'ns oughtta done knowed it's better 'n' if'n' ya'll gitten the 'zammner likkerrd up fust....... Jest put the 'shine in wunn them newfangeld water jugs everbudys suckin' on these days...."here, Ma'mm....wudja hole my watter?" Oughtta work.... Steve Link to comment
notrevorich Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Lao po passed her written and driving test on the same day (Yes, she drove in China too). The behavior of the Examiner may have actually have been a violation of you state or even Federal law by excluding her due to language difficulties (mostly on the Examiner's part it per your story). Especially when all that was needed was a little patience on her part.This behavior has been a common experience for me , most of the time I just let it ride and go on with life , This week I had a county employee run me through the wringer on a new motorcycle title ,and claimed we were lying in a pointed reference to my wife being from over there-I never fiqured out what we were lying about , but went to the head of the tag agency and filed a written complaint I Solved the problem to-I hit them where it hurt , They lost the license fee and sales tax to Georgia and since I am buying another new car they lost the sales tax fee and licensing fee on that one too.Since Lisa is a legal resident of Georgia and I am a Legal resident of Florida .I can do that The county lost about $2800 in fees since I did not get an apology . I told the Tax collector that his employee does represent him and maybe it would be nice if they started leaving a comment box so that the citizens could comment on the lousy service and outrageous attitude of his clerks . Link to comment
hankster Posted July 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Hank, you probably already thought of this, but ... I would be very upfront when next you two go for the road test. When you sign in mount your very best smiles and tell them that Lily is new to TN and has trouble understanding "our" accent; request that they steer her toward someone who doesn't have much of an accent ... could work ...You're right Jim, and I did try this approach to a certain extent when we were doing the pre-test paperwork, telling the examiner I must speak clearly and without contractions when communicating with Lily. She ignored me! I think my biggest mistake was scheduling the test at 4:30 pm. I believe it was the last appointment of the day and the examiner just wanted out of there so she used the communication issue to knock off a little early. Lao po passed her written and driving test on the same day (Yes, she drove in China too). The behavior of the Examiner may have actually have been a violation of you state or even Federal law by excluding her due to language difficulties (mostly on the Examiner's part it per your story). Especially when all that was needed was a little patience on her part.Especially considering that they have to be able to deal with deaf people. Most of the driving testers are adequately fluent in 'pointing' to be able to get through a driving test with anyone. That's what I thought too, Randy. I know several deaf people with Licenses. Yes, Lily had driven in china. Had a chinese License. Shoot 'far, Hank, ya'll fergot tuh brang the jug, you'ns oughtta done knowed it's better 'n' if'n' ya'll gitten the 'zammner likkerrd up fust....... Jest put the 'shine in wunn them newfangeld water jugs everbudys suckin' on these days...."here, Ma'mm....wudja hole my watter?" Oughtta work.... Steve It Ourtta, Steve. A good drank uv splo might'a hepped. Link to comment
panthr Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I feel your pain Hank. I am in a region on NC where there are alot of people from elsewhere in the US. They all say that Fang speaks better English that the native North Carolinians Link to comment
SirLancelot Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 That's what I thought too, Randy. I know several deaf people with Licenses. Hi Hank. That's reprehensible what happened. I'm not making light of your wife' situation and this is not a joke so please take this suggestion/idea seriously. Can you just tell your next examiner that your wife is deaf? Then the examiner should just point as Randy indicated. Deaf people are legally able to drive, so it shouldn't matter at all--legally--if your wife understands the examiner in English or not. So long as your wife can read and understand English signs and instructions, her ability to comprehend oral English should be irrelevant, as in the case of deaf people. What am I missing here? Link to comment
warpedbored Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) This is pure speculation on my part but wouldn't they just want a translator that knows sign language? I found this link that says they allow interpreters for deaf people in NJhttp://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Licenses/Dr...l/Chapter_2.pdf Edited August 7, 2007 by warpedbored (see edit history) Link to comment
Randy W Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 This is pure speculation on my part but wouldn't they just want a translater that knows sign language? I found this link that says they allow interpreters for deaf people in NJhttp://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Licenses/Dr...l/Chapter_2.pdf Texas allows interpreters for the written test, but not for the driving test. Link to comment
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