The I-134

[RLS]

The expiration date on the I-134 that I will use is 4-30-07. Can I assume that is the latest version? On the finacial part of the form, if we show that we are making well above the 125% poverty level, do we leave everything else blank? i.e. mortgage, life ins., personal property, stocks and bonds. In other words, we don't write "none" or "N/A" in any of those fields, except the income field - am I correct? I know this has been covered a million times, but one more won't hurt, especially for those of us who are getting ready for that part of the process.

[yuehan123]

The latest form version (link valid 11-07-2006) can be found at http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

1. The direct answer is yes. "Edition: 6/17/04. Other editions acceptable only through 9/30/04."

2. I left everything else blank on both 134 and the 864

[dnoblett]

It is best not to leave lines blank, since they are for dollar amounts, place a zero on those lines.

 

Note: The form on the USCIS site is annoying how it is not a fillable one. Try this one: http://www.visapro.com/US-INS-Forms/Form-I-134-INS.asp If you want to fill it out on the computer and print it out. It is the newest one like the one on the USCIS site just can be filled out and printed.

[yuehan123]

It is best not to leave lines blank, since they are for dollar amounts, place a zero on those lines.

Generally, I agree do not leave any lines blank. The specific exception is this one. Rhetorically, why in the world would I choose to tell the VO my other assets are $0? As long as the annual income meets the poverty guideline requirements, no other assets are needed. Therefore, any data beyond annual income is superfluous, but not $0.

[RLS]

It is best not to leave lines blank, since they are for dollar amounts, place a zero on those lines.

Generally, I agree do not leave any lines blank. The specific exception is this one. Rhetorically, why in the world would I choose to tell the VO my other assets are $0? As long as the annual income meets the poverty guideline requirements, no other assets are needed. Therefore, any data beyond annual income is superfluous, but not $0.

 

dnoblett - thanks for the link to the I-134. Evidently there are quite a few versions out there. I also thought about putting zeros in the blanks, but, then I thought, as you do, that it might not look good to show any additional assests as "zero."

[Randy W]

There's always '-------' or 'N/A'. I simply answered each of the questions.

[Juette]

Ron, I chose to put dollar amounts in each of the fields. I think it just looks bad to put $0; however, CFL members have put only income and the result was a successful outcome.

Edited November 8, 2006 by Juette (see edit history)

[david_dawei]

It is best not to leave lines blank, since they are for dollar amounts, place a zero on those lines.

Generally, I agree do not leave any lines blank. The specific exception is this one. Rhetorically, why in the world would I choose to tell the VO my other assets are $0? As long as the annual income meets the poverty guideline requirements, no other assets are needed. Therefore, any data beyond annual income is superfluous, but not $0.

This is what I did (blank for dollar amounts not filling in).. and the VJ sample does the same.

[Guest ShaQuaNew]

It is best not to leave lines blank, since they are for dollar amounts, place a zero on those lines.

Generally, I agree do not leave any lines blank. The specific exception is this one. Rhetorically, why in the world would I choose to tell the VO my other assets are $0? As long as the annual income meets the poverty guideline requirements, no other assets are needed. Therefore, any data beyond annual income is superfluous, but not $0.

This is what I did (blank for dollar amounts not filling in).. and the VJ sample does the same.

It's likely not a big deal whether one leaves a monetary field blank, or enters a zero (0), but I can tell you that government protocol does not allow such activity for internal or legal documents. The rule is, every field has something in it, whether NA, NONE, or ZERO (0), as dictated by the context.

 

There is a good reason for it; it simply reduces the chance for the reader to confuse the meaning of the author. I'm all for that, and why not? How long does it take to put something there.

 

One of the more common mistakes are confusing the use of NA and NONE. If a field asks whether you have children, if you have none, you write NONE. If the next field asks the age, then put N/A. But hey, if someone leaves it blank, why not. Personally, as a documentation specialist, I never leave anything blank, even if someone says it's okay to do so.

[yuehan123]

Personally, as a documentation specialist, I never leave anything blank, even if someone says it's okay to do so.

Begging the question then, because these forms ask for dollar values, what did you put in those fields on the I-134 and I-834? Dollar figures, N/A, None or Zero? The OP asked for guidance.

[Guest Duke]

Personally, as a documentation specialist, I never leave anything blank, even if someone says it's okay to do so.

Begging the question then, because these forms ask for dollar values, what did you put in those fields on the I-134 and I-834? Dollar figures, N/A, None or Zero? The OP asked for guidance.

 

I left them blank. She enjoyed her taco today for lunch.

[SirLancelot]

Personally, as a documentation specialist, I never leave anything blank, even if someone says it's okay to do so.

Begging the question then, because these forms ask for dollar values, what did you put in those fields on the I-134 and I-834? Dollar figures, N/A, None or Zero? The OP asked for guidance.

 

Write "Not Applicable" in each of the fields for assets if you feel income alone is enough to satisfy the public charge requirement.

 

Now, what about the cases when there is no wage income but plenty of assets. What to do then? List as little assets as possible or list all of them? Say a person has 3 houses and 2 of them are completely paid off and one still has a mortgage. Say each house is worth 700,000 now. List all the assets and show them the deed/mortgage or just list one?

 

If no wage income, should one still provide tax returns? Will the mortgage/deed of trust of the completely paid off house(s) be enough to show adequate assets to meet the public charge requirement?

[Randy W]

Now, what about the cases when there is no wage income but plenty of assets. What to do then? List as little assets as possible or list all of them? Say a person has 3 houses and 2 of them are completely paid off and one still has a mortgage. Say each house is worth 700,000 now. List all the assets and show them the deed/mortgage or just list one?

 

If no wage income, should one still provide tax returns? Will the mortgage/deed of trust of the completely paid off house(s) be enough to show adequate assets to meet the public charge requirement?

 

 

The contribution of a house to your net worth is its value minus your mortgage. Any (and every) house, whether paid off or not, can be listed as an asset.

 

I don't see why you wouldn't list all assets (if a value is readily available), in any case.

 

If you have no income, your combined assets must total at least 5 times the poverty wage.

 

For any year in which you had no income tax return, you should include a written explanation.

[Randy W]

. And the VO blue slipped your SO for you to provide info on our rental income?

 

Don't give them anything more than is absolutely necessary.

 

 

He may do that anyway, since they show up on your income tax.

[yuehan123]

And it was such a simple concept. Income plus nothing else. Good grief charlie brown. Is this twisted candle or visa help? Now I know why there is such a poor ratio of #replies:#reads.