chicagosnow Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Dear USCONGUZ: I am an U.S. citizen and I was born in Hong Kong. I lived in Chicago since I was four years old. I am concern about how the U.S. General Consulate will judge a mentally ill petitioner's case. How does the U.S. General Consulate find out about a mentally ill petitioner if they can communicate with a Chinese applicant? How does the U.S. General Consulate protect an U.S. mentally ill citizen to not be cheated and used by a Chinese applicant? Can the U.S. General Consulate find out if the petitioner applied for medical financial help from the U.S. government? This is a real story that happened to my cousin as follows: My cousin has mental illness since he lost his computer job in 2000. He applied for medical financial help from then on. After that, my cousin's parents tried to introduce him to a woman from Taishan, China. They hope my cousin would marry. In early 2002, my cousin married the Taishan woman in Taishan, China. My cousin's parents helped him to finish all the CR1 immigation application work and co-sponsored his wife. During that time, they both were waiting for the visa. My cousin's parents called the Taishan wife every two or three days, but they never allowed my cousin to talk to his wife for a long period of time. Every time they just allowed my cousin to say Hello and Good bye. My cousin's parents talked to the wife in Taishanese. So no one knows their telephone bill was actually a conversation between my cousin's parents and his Taishan wife. They have some letters but they were written by my cousin's parents. They chatted online but every time my cousin was just sitting in front of the computer with his parents talking to the wife for about 15 minutes, and then they stopped just to have some chat records as evidence. In late 2003, my cousin and his parents were very happy because the Taishan wife got the visa and came to the U.S.A. Two months later, the bad news came. The Taishan wife disappeared suddenly. One month later, her lawyer sent a lawsuit letter to my cousin and ask for a divorced lawsuit to his parents stating that she was cheated by her husband's parents to marry a mentally ill person and suited for a lot of money from the parents. From then on, I have never seen my cousin again. My parents said he tried to commit suicide and was hospitalized after that time. His parents are in their sixties and they are very sad about their son now. They have sold the house to pay for the Taishan woman's monthly alimony. I suggest that mentally ill people in the U.S.A. not to have any long distance relationship with any Chinese women in China. As an analyst, I do not think mentally ill people can make the right decisions on their own and can communicate well with people long distance. Once their wife or fiancee comes to the U.S.A. and finds out that he has mental illness and has no ability to work to support the family, they will divorce their husband and make their life worse than before coming to the U.S.A. The women made the mentally ill petitioners as the legal bridge to come to the U.S.A. I wish these kinds of sad stories would not happen to any U.S. family again. The U.S. General Consulate should correct such kind of problems and try to protect the U.S. mentally ill petitioner to not be cheated by some Chinese applicants. Thank you, Best regards from Chicago. Link to comment
IluvmyLi Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 "I wish these kinds of sad stories would not happen to any U.S. family again". Not to mention the poor chinese woman that was duped into getting married to someone that is menally ill. Sorry but that was just WRONG! Link to comment
warpedbored Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 While I agree that it was unethical to not disclose his illness to her she is also somewhat culpable. I can't believe she didn't think something was amiss when his parents would't let him talk long. Link to comment
LeeFisher3 Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Sounds like the parents wanted to get him a caregiver so they could get on with their lives, I just can't imagine the thought process that they followed. I'm happy to hear that the woman was able to help correct their thinking if not just dig deep into their pocketbook for the deception. Link to comment
johnxiaoying Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 (edited) She had some knowledge since they married in China. This would suggest they spent some time together. Looks like a case of the con getting conned. Edited May 6, 2006 by johnxiaoying (see edit history) Link to comment
Randy W Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 This was definitely a scam by the parents on the Taishan woman. I hope she got enough money to compensate for her time, trouble, and heartache. The unfortunate victim here (in addition to the woman) is the son. It's a shame that the parents were so misguided as to do what they did. The petition (and petitioner) was approved by the USCIS, and the NVC (Dept. of State in the US) before it was sent to Guangzhou. The only sign of his mental illness (to USCIS) would have been the lack of a job. But this was compensated for (financially) by his parents co-sponsoring her. So I'm sure that his mental condition was not a factor at any point in the processing. Link to comment
se_lang Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 They had to meet at least once, how could she not know, didn't they have a honey moon, something here sounds amiss! Link to comment
Guest pushbrk Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Sounds to me like everyone is involved in a case of visa fraud.213264[/snapback]That's my read. Well probably everybody but the mentally ill petitioner, if really mentally ill. Link to comment
NewDay2006 Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Sounds to me like everyone is involved in a case of visa fraud.213264[/snapback]That's my read. Well probably everybody but the mentally ill petitioner, if really mentally ill.213266[/snapback]I guess I've heard it all now Link to comment
georgeandli Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 I read this and wonder. No knock on chicagosnow but I can't get one K1 legit? There should have been red flags ahoy. Link to comment
PJ Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 While it is a sad story, I believe strongly that it is not the US Consulate's job to "judge the mental stability of the petitioner". Having a history of depression or mental illness is not a crime, nor is applying for medical help. Denying a visa based on mental health history would essentially criminalize depression. If there was evidence of a relationship that seemed valid (call logs), and the minimum income requirements were met through the co-sponsors, I really believe that the consulate did due dilligence on its part. Link to comment
RLS Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 This kind of BS really hurts those of us who are trying to do this "legally." Link to comment
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