Dare we hope?

[beijingjenny]

I'm not optimistic at all, but Jack doesn't think it's a question. He's a retired farmer with no money, no wife, nothing. And we aren't rolling in the money for supporting him (I mean, we can, no problem but don't know if they will see it that way).

 

Any ideas what else he can do/show? He does own land and Jack told him to bring the deed.

 

Also, is there a way for us to pay the visa fee for him? Jack is pretty sure others he knows do this for their parents but I thought it could only be done in person at a CITIC bank in China.

 

Thanks!

[LeeFisher3]

You could send him money for the visa fee by Western Union.

[beijingjenny]

Yeah, we'll have to send money anyway to pay for his ticket, if he gets it. Jack might just send him his bank card. But just wanted to know if it were true we could pay it here or not.

 

Sorry I've been a stranger, we've moved city and state, Jack's working 12 hour days and I'm trying to manage the babes and home on my own...!

[beijingjenny]

Also, anyone have a good link for the list of CITIC banks? The one from the consulate site kept giving me an error.

[Guest pushbrk]

I'm not optimistic at all, but Jack doesn't think it's a question. He's a retired farmer with no money, no wife, nothing. And we aren't rolling in the money for supporting him (I mean, we can, no problem but don't know if they will see it that way).

 

Any ideas what else he can do/show? He does own land and Jack told him to bring the deed.

 

Also, is there a way for us to pay the visa fee for him? Jack is pretty sure others he knows do this for their parents but I thought it could only be done in person at a CITIC bank in China.

 

Thanks!

208379[/snapback]

If you are applying for an immigrant visa for him as a family member, there's no reason he shouldn't eventually get it. However, if it is a visitor visa, I would have strong doubts. Everything you wrote indicates he would have no good reason to go back to China. This would seem to kill the deal for sure on a visitor visa.

[MikeandRong]

Also, anyone have a good link for the list of CITIC banks? The one from the consulate site kept giving me an error.

208408[/snapback]

This is the only link that seems to be working today. The English listing of the banks seems to have been deleted or changed. Todays date, 4/20/2006.

 

http://www.ecitic.com/citicib/branchbank/i...?branchID=10008

[MikeandRong]

Also, anyone have a good link for the list of CITIC banks? The one from the consulate site kept giving me an error.

208408[/snapback]

This is the only link that seems to be working today. The English listing of the banks seems to have been deleted or changed. Todays date, 4/20/2006.

 

http://www.ecitic.com/citicib/branchbank/i...?branchID=10008

208560[/snapback]

I located this list of banks in English from the Guanghzou Consulate web site.

 

http://guangzhou.usconsulate.gov/citic.html

 

Visas to the U.S.

A list of Specified Branches of the CITIC Industrial Bank

Going-Abroad Financial Service Center

Add: 269-271, Huang Pu Da Dao West, Guangzhou 510620

Fax: 020-87587076 Tel: 020-87586720

 

Sub-branch in CITIC Plaza

Add: 233 Tian He North Rd., Guangzhou 510613

Fax: 020-87754463 Tel: 020-87521188

 

Huan Shi Sub-branch

Add: 2 Shui Yin Rd., Guangzhou 510080

Fax: 020-37604926 Tel: 020-37605518

 

Bei Xiu Sub-branch

Add: 179-191, Xiao Bei Rd., Guangzhou 510045

Fax: 020-83556611 Tel: 020-83555963

 

Sub-branch in Beijing Road

Add: 10 Guang Wei Rd., Guangzhou 510030

Fax: 020-83332924 Tel: 020-83340724

 

Dong Shan Sub-branch

Add: 748 Dong Feng East Rd., Guangzhou 510080

Fax: 020-87613576 Tel: 020-87761888

 

Liu Hua Sub-branch

Add: 120 Liu Hua Rd., Guangzhou 510016

Fax: 020-86667770 Tel: 020-86667677

 

Hai Zhu Sub-branch

Add: 134 Jiang Nan Da Dao, Guangzhou 510240

Fax: 020-84493382 Tel: 020-84242947

 

Sub-branch in Ji Chang Rd.

Add: 6 Ling An St., Ji Chang Rd., Guangzhou 510405

Fax: 020-86133540 Tel: 020-86133087

 

Sub-branch in International Building

Add: 339 Huan Shi East Rd., Guangzhou 510098

Fax: 020-83317581 Tel: 020-83319595

 

Sub-branch in Zhu Jiang New City

Add: 398 Hua Sui Rd., Zhu Jiang New City, Guangzhou 510623

Fax: 020-38620212 Tel: 020-38620219

 

Pan Yu Sub-branch

Add: 25-29 Gong Hua East Rd., Pan Yu District, Guangzhou 511400

Fax: 020-34518086 Tel: 020-34518888

 

Fo Shan Sub-branch

Add: 91 Fen Jiang South Rd., Foshan 528000

Fax: 0757-3981101 Tel: 0757-3989999

 

Dong Guan Sub-branch

Add: 40 Huang Cun Lu Duan, Guan Tai Da Dao, Dongguan 511715

Fax: 0769-2819151 Tel: 0769-2421188

 

Garden Sub-branch

Add: 432, Huan Shi East Rd., Guangzhou 510075

Fax: 020-87622130 Tel: 020-87622121-121

 

Development Zone Sub-branch

Add: 3, Zhong Shan Da Dao, Tianhe District, Guangzhou 510660

Fax: 020-82578976 Tel: 020-82578953

 

Xihu Road Sub-branch

Add: No. 19, Xihu Road, Guangzhou

Fax: 020-83341548 Tel: 020-83341548

 

Sub-branch in CITIC Building

Add: No.1093, Shennan Central Road, Shenzhen 518031

Fax: 0755-25941940 TelF0755-25941876

 

Luo Hu Sub-branch

Add: 2/F, Xinglong Building, Nanhu Road, Shenzhen 518005

Fax: 0755-82187387 TelF0755-82202841 Contact: Yuping Nie

 

Shang Bu Sub-branch

Add: Sanda Building, Hua Fa North Road, Shenzhen 518031

Fax:0755-83243781 TelF0755-83231401 Contact: Yiqing Luo

 

Bin He Sub-branch

Add: Wireless Administration Building, No.3002, Binghe Ave., Shenzhen 518033

Fax: 0755-83219892 TelF0755-83219887 Contact: Hong Cai

 

Hong Ling Sub-branch

Add: No.2108, Hong Gui Road, Shenzhen 518001

Fax: 0755-25576113 TelF0755-25584091 Contact: Wenjing Huang

 

Sun Gang Sub-branch

Add: ZhongMing Plaza, No.12, Sun Gang Road, Shenzhen 518008

Fax: 0755-82485291 TelF0755-82485293 Contact: Sihong Chen

 

Fu Nan Sub-branch

Add: Investment Building, No.4009, Shen Nan Da Dao, Shenzhen 518009

Fax: 0755-82912249 TelF0755-82912255 Contact: Danli Huang

 

Ba Gua Ling Sub-branch

Add: ,Pengyi Garden, No,1012, Shang Bu North Road, Shenzhen 518029

Fax: 0755-25849070 TelF0755-25849560 Contact: Xun Liu

 

Hong Li Sub-branch

Add: Shenkan Building, No.4, Shang Bu Central Road, Shenzhen 518028

Fax: 0755-83755782 TelF0755-83755162 Contact: Na Li

 

Nan Shan Sub-branch

Add: 2120, Nanxin Rd., Nanshan District, Shenzhen 518052

Fax: 0755-26561741 TelF0755-26561743 Contact: Li Xie

 

Bao' An Sub-branch

Add: 64, Xinan 3nd , Bao'an District, Shenzhen 518100

Fax: 0755-27759092 TelF0755-27759593 Contact: Tanmei Zhong

 

Jin Shan Sub-branch

Add: 1/F, Jinshan Building, No. 5033. Shennan Rd., Shenzhen 518008

Fax: 0755-82073316 TelF0755-82073338 Contact: Xiaorong Xu

 

Hua Lian Sub-Sub-branch

Add: 1/F, Hualian Building, Shennan Rd., Shenzhen 518010

Fax: 0755-83668628 TelF0755-83668508 Contact: Zhiqiang Liang

 

Bu Ji Sub-branch

Add: 1/F Buji Central Square, Buji Town, Shenzhen 518112

Fax: 0755-28526248 TelF0755-28526224 Contact: Weiqiang Chen

 

Hou Hai Sub-branch

Add: 1/F, Yuehai Building, Shennan Rd., Shenzhen

Fax: 0755-26405481 TelF0755-26405481 Contact: Yihui Ling

 

Fu Tian Sub-branch

Add: 1/F, Union Plaza, Caitian Rd., Shenzhen 518026

Fax: 0755-82710824 TelF0755-82910815 Contact: Haitao Ling

 

Long Gang Sub-branch

Add: No. 808, Shenhui Rd., Nanshan District, Shenzhen 518116

Fax: 0755-84803034 TelF0755-84803064 Contact: Ang Li

 

Xin Zhou Sub-branch

Add: 1/F, Renmin building, Shennan Rd., Shenzhen 518009

Fax: 0755-83904794 TelF0755-83905221 Contact: Zhiming Jin

 

Dong Men Sub-branch

Add: Lixin Garden, Renmin North Rd., Luohu District, Shenzhen, 518003

Fax: 0755-25198125 TelF0755-82197745 Contact: Xiao Li

 

Cui Zhu Sub-branch

Add: 1146, Cuizhu Rd., luohu District, Shenzhen 518020

Fax: 0755-25624103 TelF0755-25624092 Contact: Jianyu Chen

 

Fuzhou Branch

Business Division, Fuzhou Branch

Add: No. 99, Hudong Road, Fuzhou 350001

Fax: 0591-7613275 TelF0591-7539196

 

Xia Men Sub-branch

Add: 79 Hu Bin South Road, Xiamen 361004

Fax: 0592-2233515 TelF0592-2232506

[beijingjenny]

Thanks so much! Are any of those next to the consulate, do you know?

 

Is he even entitled to an immigrant visa, being as Jack is not a citizen?

[yuliki]

Thanks so much! Are any of those next to the consulate, do you know?

 

Is he even entitled to an immigrant visa, being as Jack is not a citizen?

208634[/snapback]

I think the easier way: you just phone the bank directly and ask them questiones you want to know. Maybe you will get some firsthand informations.

 

should be this one is nearest to GZ consulat office

 

Sub-branch in CITIC Plaza

Add: 233 Tian He North Rd., Guangzhou 510613

Fax: 020-87754463 Tel: 020-87521188

Edited April 21, 2006 by yuliki (see edit history)

[warpedbored]

If you want the father to move here Jack can file an I-130 for him. It is a second priority visa though and subject to quotas. It would take a few years to make it's way through the system. Don brought up once though that if the Chinese petitioner were to go ahead and file it now, then once they become an american citizen they are no longer subject to quotas. The process is then much like a K-visa in timeline and you would be that much further along because of filing while still a resident alien.

Edited April 22, 2006 by warpedbored (see edit history)

[skibum]

Getting a tourist visa seems to depend on how many siblings he Jack has still in China. If there are none, poor chance.

[lishelisa]

Jenny, you can apply for your father in law, the chance is 50/50. My husband and I applied for my father to attend my graduation. My father is a poor farmer, unfortunatly, he was denied in the 1st interview. My husband and I were able to try again, fortunatly, he got his B2 visa in couple seconds this time . Because my village is far from us consulate, he had to travel by bus, mini bus, taxi and over night stay in hotel. It was so expensive for him to make visa trip, once cost 2500 yuan, which is his 6 months hard working on the field without eating.

 

Now he is here over 1 month, and we are planning to bring him boating and fishing on "father'"s day. He had been on our local newspaper "Poststar" frontpage this is really make him proud. When he was denied in 1st interview, I was so upset. My daddy always asked me that is my life look like the television shows on the phone. So I am so earge to want he see and experience my life here in USA. I am very appericiate my husband make this happen.

 

Now, we are really enjoy living together for some quality time now. So, Please keep try.

Edited June 16, 2006 by lishelisa (see edit history)

[beijingjenny]

Congrats! That must be so nice to have him there. Enjoy your time And thanks for the encouragement. We certainly will try!

[change2marrow]

I wrote this in a post involving the same issue as yours. Hope it will help.

 

Never been to another country will be an issue and most likely one that will be brought up in the interview or one of the reasons for a denial. I tried to look at it from "what are the odds" point of view too, but you can't really do that. There is no defined criteria, so you can't use any kind of number system.

 

One option is to get as close as you can to their undefined criteria and schedule an interview. After the first denial you'll know what to overcome so you can change the status of the denial. Repeat the same steps to change the next denial. Crazy as it sounds, it's common to interview 2, 3,... times.

 

Someone else mentioned on CFL about traveling with a tour group, but I have no idea how that works or if it works.

 

Note: I've witnessed one case that the person trying to travel to the states didn't have employment and money. So, they came back providing proof of employment and financial records. The consulate did their homework and found that the employment was fake and found a recent large sum of money was deposited into the bank account. They were denied again and was told that they had a 10% chance of ever coming to the states. So, be careful how you handle the overcoming evidence.

 

At any rate, try and see what happens.

 

Good luck.

[beijingjenny]

Thanks - we will see what happens.