Randy W Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 . A Chinese photo booth (traffic cameras) - these are popping up everywhere. There are 4 (one in each direction) at this intersection, and many around town, Even saw one in the middle of nowhere approaching a small (otherwise dark) town. The lights are on continuously. This is the latest revenue stream for local governments. . Link to comment
Fu Lai Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 All over in Wuhan... and of course in the largest police state in the world: the USA Link to comment
tsap seui Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I first saw those cameras in Australia in 1999...they already had it down to a science by the time I saw the first one. It took years before I saw them in the DC/Baltimore metro area. So far, up here in the sticks if they put one up some good ol' boy would blow it away with his 12 guage Mossberg double barrel. Hey, the coppers gotta make money for the politicos pockets somehow, and who better to pay fer it than city slickers? Eh? tsap seui 1 Link to comment
Fu Lai Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I remember my auto got booted once and I was shocked. When I went to the cop shop they said I owed 28 tickets. I had no idea. Turns out they were all tickets "earned" from those cameras and the address I had on file was an old one, so I never got the notices. Link to comment
Doug Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) Tsap here there are other cameras up looking every direction where those things are. They will see you coming and going. Need one of those EMP bombs to take out all electronics. RW - deleted semi-politcal part Edited December 17, 2012 by Randy W (see edit history) 1 Link to comment
dnoblett Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 They have been setting up red light cams in Rochester NY, most of the revenue goes to the cam operator based in Phoenix AZ. A compleat crock, be aware they also zap for rolling right on red. Fortunately they don't count as point generating violations. Link to comment
Randy W Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yes - at least here, the only penalty is a ¥100 fine. The ticket is given to the registered car owner, who then reports who the driver was. After 12 tickets, the driver needs to re-take the driver's exam. My wife did that once. But so far, we've made it through 2012 without any tickets. Link to comment
dan_ling Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I got one of those Red light tickets, came with a photo of my truck with license plate for proof. It cost me $75. Link to comment
tsap seui Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I got one of those Red light tickets, came with a photo of my truck with license plate for proof. It cost me $75. Dan, you are just a dang wildman animal !!!!!!!! I tells ya. tsap seui Link to comment
Fu Lai Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Yes - at least here, the only penalty is a ¥100 fine. The ticket is given to the registered car owner, who then reports who the driver was. After 12 tickets, the driver needs to re-take the driver's exam. My wife did that once. But so far, we've made it through 2012 without any tickets. Well re-taking the driver's exam is a penalty. In my ol' USA town all cam tickets carried the same points as in-person ones. I don't mind the traffic cams at all or the other surveillance cams all around us. It is a natural progression. Link to comment
hello123 Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Wow! No cameras here in MN. A few years ago these cameras were installed and the government was sued. After a lot of legal business, it was determined that the cameras were not legal under the Minnesota Constitution! So currently, no cameras and I don't think there will be any in the near future. That's how it's done in the great state of Minnesota at least! We need to deal with the tough winters but not some stupid cameras at least. Link to comment
Doug Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 A guy on talk radio went to court over a 75 dollar camera fine. Texas law, and I think all laws, have to do with an individual commiting a crime, not your car. There is no evidence who is driving. So he got objection after objection in in court from the city attn, and so the guy finally asked a question of the city attn if he had any proof that it was him driving the car. No. So the judge dismissed the case. So technically you could probably beat these tickets. I may do the same next time. The man ended his story by admitting he did run the light. But he beat the thing. Link to comment
Randy W Posted December 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 A guy on talk radio went to court over a 75 dollar camera fine. Texas law, and I think all laws, have to do with an individual commiting a crime, not your car. There is no evidence who is driving. So he got objection after objection in in court from the city attn, and so the guy finally asked a question of the city attn if he had any proof that it was him driving the car. No. So the judge dismissed the case. So technically you could probably beat these tickets. I may do the same next time. The man ended his story by admitting he did run the light. But he beat the thing. In China, the question is "Is this your car, or not?". You tell them who was driving, and pay the fine. More of a "You're either guilty or you're not"-type thing than innocent until proven guilty. Link to comment
Doug Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 A guy on talk radio went to court over a 75 dollar camera fine. Texas law, and I think all laws, have to do with an individual commiting a crime, not your car. There is no evidence who is driving. So he got objection after objection in in court from the city attn, and so the guy finally asked a question of the city attn if he had any proof that it was him driving the car. No. So the judge dismissed the case. So technically you could probably beat these tickets. I may do the same next time. The man ended his story by admitting he did run the light. But he beat the thing. In China, the question is "Is this your car, or not?". You tell them who was driving, and pay the fine. More of a "You're either guilty or you're not"-type thing than innocent until proven guilty.Well good ol Plano, TX is sure revenue streaming. And yes you go to a private company to pay. I still need to get my name off of her car title, because guess where the bill comes everytime she turns a corner? Link to comment
Fu Lai Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) ... Well good ol Plano, TX ... You are in Plano???? Check out http://www.collegesportingnews.com and GO BEARKATS!!! But if my name is on the car title then I am ultimately responsible for anyone operating it. Edited December 16, 2012 by Fu Lai (see edit history) Link to comment
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