All lost in GZ

[tywy_99]

I think I am getting ready to panic.   I was informed by NVC that my case was forwarded to GZ on 23 July.   I have been emailing GZ about every 10 days.   i recieved a few replies stating the case was under processing.  The last two I received are simular to the one stating they have not received the case yet.  I think I am going backwards here insteat of moving forward.

jimb

 

-----Original Message-----

From: jimbnh@prodigy.net [mailto:jimbnh@prodigy.net]

Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:25 AM

To: GuangzhouIVform@state.gov

Subject: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

 

Dear Harold J. Baird,

 

Thanks for your email. The case is now under processing for security

clearance check. Once we finish it, we will set an interview for your wife

and notify her.

 

Yours Sincerely,

The Immigrant Visa Unit

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: jimbnh@prodigy.net [mailto:jimbnh@prodigy.net]

Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:11 PM

To:

Subject: XXXXXXXXXXX  unknown

 

We have searched our files, but there is still no record pertaining to the

applicant. We will start processing when we receive it.

 

guangzhouiv

Have you tracked your mailing date via DHL? Do you know for certain that the mail for your mailing date has been delivered to IV unit? I would make certain of that first. It is the one real fact that one can know.

[Mick]

I think I am getting ready to panic. I was informed by NVC that my case was forwarded to GZ on 23 July. I have been emailing GZ about every 10 days. i recieved a few replies stating the case was under processing.  The last two I received are simular to the one stating they have not received the case yet.  I think I am going backwards here insteat of moving forward.

jimb

 

-----Original Message-----

From: jimbnh@prodigy.net [mailto:jimbnh@prodigy.net]

Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:25 AM

To: GuangzhouIVform@state.gov

Subject: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

 

Dear Harold J. Baird,

 

Thanks for your email. The case is now under processing for security

clearance check. Once we finish it, we will set an interview for your wife

and notify her.

 

Yours Sincerely,

The Immigrant Visa Unit

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: jimbnh@prodigy.net [mailto:jimbnh@prodigy.net]

Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:11 PM

To:

Subject: XXXXXXXXXXX  unknown

 

We have searched our files, but there is still no record pertaining to the

applicant. We will start processing when we receive it.

 

guangzhouiv

Good grief!!!! I don't blame you for the panic Jim.

 

By now nothing should surprise us in terms of GZ but this ranks right up there with the most glaring cases of double-speak and incompetence. What makes it worse is, unless things have changed, it is difficult to talk to a higher up in the GZ food chain. Have you tried calling one of the supervisors? Another thought, maybe you could fax a copy of these conflicting messages to Linda Donahue along with a note asking for clarification of status. Unless you can get to her, or one of the other Directors, you may continue to get mixed messages.

 

I doubt they have lost your case. I suspect that whoever answered your email in October just wasn't paying much attention to what they were doing. Please keep posting as to your progress, or lack thereof.

 

Jeeeezzzz!

[Dave G.]

I suspect that whoever answered your email in October just wasn't paying much attention to what they were doing. Please keep posting as to your progress, or lack thereof.

What??? CFL member Whoever works at GZ??? Why can't we get priority service?

 

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[whoever]

The longest wait between a NVC mailing date and a DHL delivery date is 79 days.

no, the longest day of the hold up is not just that.

 

My case was sent from NVC on May 9th. But, we didn't get our P3 until September 25th. So go figure.

[whoever]

hahaha, Dave.

I probably won't even know about this site if I work for the Consulate. And, if I worked for the Consulate, I'd make damn sure that those people are diligent on my case.

[tywy_99]

The longest wait between a NVC mailing date and a DHL delivery date is 79 days.

no, the longest day of the hold up is not just that.

 

My case was sent from NVC on May 9th. But, we didn't get our P3 until September 25th. So go figure.

Now what did I say here??? NVC mailing to DHL delivery.....

 

NVC 05-09-03.............DHL 07-21-03...............you do the math!

I'm not even counting P3 and P4 time.

 

However, there are some now approaching that time.

[pfsmunki]

I think I am getting ready to panic. I was informed by NVC that my case was forwarded to GZ on 23 July. I have been emailing GZ about every 10 days. i recieved a few replies stating the case was under processing.  The last two I received are simular to the one stating they have not received the case yet.  I think I am going backwards here insteat of moving forward.

jimb

 

-----Original Message-----

From: jimbnh@prodigy.net [mailto:jimbnh@prodigy.net]

Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:25 AM

To: GuangzhouIVform@state.gov

Subject: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

 

Dear Harold J. Baird,

 

Thanks for your email. The case is now under processing for security

clearance check. Once we finish it, we will set an interview for your wife

and notify her.

 

Yours Sincerely,

The Immigrant Visa Unit

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: jimbnh@prodigy.net [mailto:jimbnh@prodigy.net]

Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:11 PM

To:

Subject: XXXXXXXXXXX  unknown

 

We have searched our files, but there is still no record pertaining to the

applicant. We will start processing when we receive it.

 

guangzhouiv

same here

[pfsmunki]

I think I am getting ready to panic. I was informed by NVC that my case was forwarded to GZ on 23 July. I have been emailing GZ about every 10 days. i recieved a few replies stating the case was under processing.  The last two I received are simular to the one stating they have not received the case yet.  I think I am going backwards here insteat of moving forward.

jimb

 

-----Original Message-----

From: jimbnh@prodigy.net [mailto:jimbnh@prodigy.net]

Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:25 AM

To: GuangzhouIVform@state.gov

Subject: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

 

Dear Harold J. Baird,

 

Thanks for your email. The case is now under processing for security

clearance check. Once we finish it, we will set an interview for your wife

and notify her.

 

Yours Sincerely,

The Immigrant Visa Unit

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: jimbnh@prodigy.net [mailto:jimbnh@prodigy.net]

Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:11 PM

To:

Subject: XXXXXXXXXXX  unknown

 

We have searched our files, but there is still no record pertaining to the

applicant. We will start processing when we receive it.

 

guangzhouiv

----- Original Message -----

From: "GuangzhouIV" <GuangzhouIV@state.gov>

To: myemail

Subject: RE: my case

 

We are still waiting for the namecheck clearance for the case. When

it is completed, we will contact the applicant for visa processing.

 

guangzhouiv

 

what's different between "namecheck clearance" and "security

clearance check",i thought NVC already did those check,why GZ do it again?

[pfsmunki]

what's different between "namecheck clearance" and "security

clearance check",i thought NVC already did those check,why GZ do it again?

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

 

There are at least 3 separate checks done by/through DOS which includes NVC, CA and GZ. 9 FAM refers to them all as 'name check'. How can you be sure that everyone using the term means the same thing? You can't.

 

VISAS EAGLE is sent to the FBI who coordinates with 10 different agencies to see if the applicant is a security risk. When DOS (or NVC) gets the response, they issue a Security Advisory Opinion.

 

VISAS EAGLE is a criminal background check sent to the FBI to run through their NCIC and IIS systems.

 

CLASS is a system run by DOS and is known as the Counsular Look Out Something System (I'm too lazy to look it up). It stores info any previous visa applications, visa problems, customs problems, etc.

 

Which 'name check' is the problem?

if we have any previous visa problems then we couldn't pass these check? right

[tywy_99]

GZ says they don't have any record of our case.  NVC says our case was forwarded to GZ on Sept 5.  All the DHL shipments around that time (Sept 5 and Sept 8) show as having been delivered.

 

Anyone have any idea how to shake our case free of this void?

 

Yes, I'm emailing GZ IVunit once a week.  

Rob,

 

Is your NVC mailing date Sept. 5th? I checked with DHL and they have delivered all mail of that date as you have said. There were three parcels altogether, 1) 1.5 lbs, 2) 6 lbs, 3) documents, all delivered.

 

Sept. 8th mail has 4 parcels with one delivered and 3 in delay. The one delivered was listed as "documents" so maybe that is the petitions.

[robhon]

what's different between "namecheck clearance" and "security

clearance check",i thought NVC already did those check,why GZ do it again?

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

 

There are at least 3 separate checks done by/through DOS which includes NVC, CA and GZ. 9 FAM refers to them all as 'name check'. How can you be sure that everyone using the term means the same thing? You can't.

 

VISAS EAGLE is sent to the FBI who coordinates with 10 different agencies to see if the applicant is a security risk. When DOS (or NVC) gets the response, they issue a Security Advisory Opinion.

 

VISAS EAGLE is a criminal background check sent to the FBI to run through their NCIC and IIS systems.

 

CLASS is a system run by DOS and is known as the Counsular Look Out Something System (I'm too lazy to look it up). It stores info any previous visa applications, visa problems, customs problems, etc.

 

Which 'name check' is the problem?

Don,

 

I think I've seen you answer this same question about six times on this site in the time I've been here (once when I asked). You should save your reply and just do a canned response the same way GZ does. It saves tons of time! Really, it does!!

[robhon]

GZ says they don't have any record of our case.  NVC says our case was forwarded to GZ on Sept 5.  All the DHL shipments around that time (Sept 5 and Sept 8) show as having been delivered.

 

Anyone have any idea how to shake our case free of this void?

 

Yes, I'm emailing GZ IVunit once a week.  

Rob,

 

Is your NVC mailing date Sept. 5th? I checked with DHL and they have delivered all mail of that date as you have said. There were three parcels altogether, 1) 1.5 lbs, 2) 6 lbs, 3) documents, all delivered.

 

Sept. 8th mail has 4 parcels with one delivered and 3 in delay. The one delivered was listed as "documents" so maybe that is the petitions.

 

The NVC swears up and down our package went out on the 5th. Is there any way to connect our specific case with an specific DHL tracking number? Otherwise I'm just going on their word, which I take with an entire mine of salt.

[whoever]

Robhon:

I don't think you will find anything about your case until it's logged in GZ computer system.

 

Even the Consular General won't be able to tell that. But, they can make sure that your case is still there, not lost. That's the only thing they could promise.

 

Have you tried your Congressman? He/she could send a request to GZ and ask why it's taking that long for GZ to process your case.

 

Despite what GZ may tell you with any reasons of delay, GZ may give you a "Provisional Case" number to flag your case. So they will take special care for it. However, I don't know how special they take care of it though.

 

Give a try with your Congressman if you hit bricks of walls.

[Bob & Minglian]

I suspect that whoever answered your email in October just wasn't paying much attention to what they were doing. Please keep posting as to your progress, or lack thereof.

What??? CFL member Whoever works at GZ??? Why can't we get priority service?

 

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Dave, now that's funny! Good catch and great sense of humor!

[whoever]

hehe, he meant me