SirLancelot Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) That's right Lance. Boao is right on the coast and Qionghai is 20 km. away.The downsides to being right on the sea are more humidity and typhoons... There is the original town of Boao which is very small and I did not see any new development there. Then there is the new development area for the Asia-Pacific Forum. I know for sure that there is one new development there with all villas. This is way out of my price range but probably pocket change for you... In Qionghai there is quite a bit of new development and more hotels, restaurants, shops, etc. so we thought it a better choice for the half year we plan to be spending there... Also Qionghai has a great hot spring area 7 km away (further from the coast) and we LOVE hot spring pools... Check out our pics in the gallery section if you haven't yet... B) One other comment about being "ON THE BEACH"... I don't know about your SO but my wife definitely DOES NOT WANT TO LIE AROUND ON THE BEACH... okay maybe after dark would be okay... Thanks for the information Roger. Much appreciated. As for lying around on the beach, likewise for my wife, but it's the ocean view we're after, not the direct UV rays on the beach itself. I'll look into that other small town you mentioned in your other post. Thanks again! edit: Roger, are you aware of this website: http://www.hainan-world.com/index.html??? It's pretty decent with lots of links and info about Hanian Island. Edited June 8, 2007 by SirLancelot (see edit history) Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3057/13bxt0.jpg Well our development company in Qionghai, Hainan has notified us that our building is "substantially finished" and it's time to fork over 95% of the purchase price per our contract. Well it's a bit hard to be sure of that by looking at a building swathed in "green stuff" but short of making a quick trip there ourselves we'll just have to trust the people in the sales office who assure us everything is copascetic... The office manager bought an apartment in the same building and told Lu Li that they have already paid. The final 5% is to be paid when everything is FINISHED for sure. I guess this is the time when you want to be sure that your development company is well established and trustworthy. Link to comment
chilton747 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3057/13bxt0.jpg Well our development company in Qionghai, Hainan has notified us that our building is "substantially finished" and it's time to fork over 95% of the purchase price per our contract. Well it's a bit hard to be sure of that by looking at a building swathed in "green stuff" but short of making a quick trip there ourselves we'll just have to trust the people in the sales office who assure us everything is copascetic... The office manager bought an apartment in the same building and told Lu Li that they have already paid. The final 5% is to be paid when everything is FINISHED for sure. I guess this is the time when you want to be sure that your development company is well established and trustworthy.Roger I sincerely hope that things work out for you in this matter. I know it is tough and it feels like a crap shoot. Gotta be a tough decision to trust someone you are REALLY not sure about. But what else can you do? Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3057/13bxt0.jpg Well our development company in Qionghai, Hainan has notified us that our building is "substantially finished" and it's time to fork over 95% of the purchase price per our contract. Well it's a bit hard to be sure of that by looking at a building swathed in "green stuff" but short of making a quick trip there ourselves we'll just have to trust the people in the sales office who assure us everything is copascetic... The office manager bought an apartment in the same building and told Lu Li that they have already paid. The final 5% is to be paid when everything is FINISHED for sure. I guess this is the time when you want to be sure that your development company is well established and trustworthy.Roger I sincerely hope that things work out for you in this matter. I know it is tough and it feels like a crap shoot. Gotta be a tough decision to trust someone you are REALLY not sure about. But what else can you do? "What else can you do?" sums it up completely Charles. I am depending on the owners of the other 23 apartments in our building to make waves if there is some problem. And knowing Chinese people I do not think they would all be quiet about it... For the final inspection of our apartment we are hoping Lu Li's dad will be able to go. When we first looked at the pics they sent Lu Li said how can we know that is even our building??? But I knew it was because the arrangement of the top floor apartments is different in our building than any of the 24 others...She could not believe that I had noticed such a minute detail... Link to comment
chilton747 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3057/13bxt0.jpg Well our development company in Qionghai, Hainan has notified us that our building is "substantially finished" and it's time to fork over 95% of the purchase price per our contract. Well it's a bit hard to be sure of that by looking at a building swathed in "green stuff" but short of making a quick trip there ourselves we'll just have to trust the people in the sales office who assure us everything is copascetic... The office manager bought an apartment in the same building and told Lu Li that they have already paid. The final 5% is to be paid when everything is FINISHED for sure. I guess this is the time when you want to be sure that your development company is well established and trustworthy.Roger I sincerely hope that things work out for you in this matter. I know it is tough and it feels like a crap shoot. Gotta be a tough decision to trust someone you are REALLY not sure about. But what else can you do? "What else can you do?" sums it up completely Charles. I am depending on the owners of the other 23 apartments in our building to make waves if there is some problem. And knowing Chinese people I do not think they would all be quiet about it... For the final inspection of our apartment we are hoping Lu Li's dad will be able to go. When we first looked at the pics they sent Lu Li said how can we know that is even our building??? But I knew it was because the arrangement of the top floor apartments is different in our building than any of the 24 others...She could not believe that I had noticed such a minute detail... I just showed a picture of your place to my wife. She liked it a lot and said it looked very good to her. I guess she can see through the green mesh As you know we are looking in Zhongshan but she also told me that she wants to look in Hainan if we can't find what we want in ZS. We might be going down that way the end of this month. I'll let you know. Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3057/13bxt0.jpg Well our development company in Qionghai, Hainan has notified us that our building is "substantially finished" and it's time to fork over 95% of the purchase price per our contract. Well it's a bit hard to be sure of that by looking at a building swathed in "green stuff" but short of making a quick trip there ourselves we'll just have to trust the people in the sales office who assure us everything is copascetic... The office manager bought an apartment in the same building and told Lu Li that they have already paid. The final 5% is to be paid when everything is FINISHED for sure. I guess this is the time when you want to be sure that your development company is well established and trustworthy.Roger I sincerely hope that things work out for you in this matter. I know it is tough and it feels like a crap shoot. Gotta be a tough decision to trust someone you are REALLY not sure about. But what else can you do? "What else can you do?" sums it up completely Charles. I am depending on the owners of the other 23 apartments in our building to make waves if there is some problem. And knowing Chinese people I do not think they would all be quiet about it... For the final inspection of our apartment we are hoping Lu Li's dad will be able to go. When we first looked at the pics they sent Lu Li said how can we know that is even our building??? But I knew it was because the arrangement of the top floor apartments is different in our building than any of the 24 others...She could not believe that I had noticed such a minute detail... I just showed a picture of your place to my wife. She liked it a lot and said it looked very good to her. I guess she can see through the green mesh As you know we are looking in Zhongshan but she also told me that she wants to look in Hainan if we can't find what we want in ZS. We might be going down that way the end of this month. I'll let you know. Here's the development website... http://www.16jb.com/ And here's the one for Qionghai City... http://www.wanquanriver.org/en/ Edited October 4, 2007 by rogerluli (see edit history) Link to comment
yaya44 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 i know this is an old topic, but having just gone there with my wife for our honeymoon, i would highly recommend souther Hainan, especially Yaloon Bay, Sanya. Here was the view from out resort hotel there: http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g319/stranx44/China/CIMG1203.jpg Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 (edited) i know this is an old topic, but having just gone there with my wife for our honeymoon, i would highly recommend souther Hainan, especially Yaloon Bay, Sanya. Sanya is nice and has great weather. But house prices are INSANE... B) The thread is about living in China...not just vacationing... Edited October 5, 2007 by rogerluli (see edit history) Link to comment
yaya44 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Sanya is nice and has great weather. But house prices are INSANE... The thread is about living in China...not just vacationing... It cannot be worse then the SF Bay Area Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Sanya is nice and has great weather. But house prices are INSANE... The thread is about living in China...not just vacationing... It cannot be worse then the SF Bay Area Nope it isn't THAT bad... Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Well October finds us back on Hainan Dao for the winter season... Temps are running 74 at night to 84 during the day, humidity 70% and East winds of about 10 mph...The seafood and tropical fruit are still cheap and fresh and the beer is still cold... ...Days we have to decide between exploring the interior, lolling on the beach or at a hot springs park...and then evenings where to go for seafood... to keep laopo from getting dark on the beach we use a Hainan umbrella... it's a tough job but somebody has to do it... http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4555/hainanumbrella2xh4.jpg Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Well October finds us back on Hainan Dao for the winter season... Temps are running 74 at night to 84 during the day, humidity 70% and East winds of about 10 mph...The seafood and tropical fruit are still cheap and fresh and the beer is still cold... ...Days we have to decide between exploring the interior, lolling on the beach or at a hot springs park...and then evenings where to go for seafood... to keep laopo from getting dark on the beach we use a Hainan umbrella... it's a tough job but somebody has to do it... http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4555/hainanumbrella2xh4.jpg Hainan real estate development continues at a blistering pace...When we first started to look for a development in a smaller city two years ago(i.e. not Haikou or Sanya) there was only one listed on Soufun for Qionghai and none for Wenchang. A year ago when we bought ours in Qionghai there were nine there and still none in Wenchang. Now there are 16 in Qionghai and 6 in Wenchang. Also prices have gone up 40% in the year since we bought... Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Hainan Travel China Hainan China Elevation extremesWith Mt. Wuzhi (Fiver Fingers) and Mt. Yingge (Parrot) standing at its very heart, Hainan Island has a staircase-like topographic structure descending step by step from towering mountains to flat tablelands and plains at its periphery.Most mountains on Hainan Island are 500 to 800 meters high, but 81 of its peaks are higher than 1,000 meters. Among those rising 1,500 meters or higher above sea level are Mount Wuzhi, Mount Yingge, Mount Ezong, Mount Houmi, Yajiada Ridge and Mount Diaoluo. These mountains mostly fall into three mountain ranges: the Wuzhi Mountain located in the central part of Hainan Island with its highest peak also the highest peak on the whole island at an elevation of 1,867.1 meters; the Yingge Mountain lying northwest of Mt. Wuzhi with its highest peak at an elevation of 1,811.6 meters; and the Yajiada Mountain in the west of the island with its highest peak rising 1,519.1 meters above sea level. Most rivers on the island origins from the central mountainous area, forming a radiating river system. The inland has 154 streams flowing directly into the sea. The total drainage area covered by the three major rivers of Nandu, Changhua and Wanquan accounts for 47 percent of the island's territory.ClimateA tropical maritime climate prevails in Hainan, bringing it all-year-round windy but warm days, abundant rainfall, clearly divided dry and wet seasons, frequent tropical storms and typhoons, as well as diversified climatic resources. Winterless Hainan Island has an annual sunshine time of 1,750 to 2,650 hours, a yearly average temperature of 23?C to 25?C, and an average annual rainfall of above 1,600 mm. The wet central part and east coast of Hainan receives more rainfall than the semi-dry southwest coast and other semi-wet areas. Winter and spring are usually dry while summer and autumn produce the wettest seasons.Natural resourcesHainan Island makes up 42.5 percent of the nation's total tropical land, with an average per capita possession of 0.48 hectares of land used for agriculture, forestry, animal husbandry and fishery. As a result of such excellent conditions as sunlight, heat and water, farmlands here can be cultivated anytime of the year, and many plants can yield two or three crops a year. Based on their suitability, the land in Hainan Island can break down into seven major categories: that suitable for farming, for rubber planting, for tropical crops growing, for forestation, for livestock breeding, for aquaculture, and for other purposes. Currently, 3.152 million hectares of land in Hainan Island have been cultivated, while 260,000 hectares remain virgin soil, around 90 percent of which are potential farming lands. Most wastelands awaiting reclamation join together, favorable for large-scale exploitation and tractor-ploughing.Grain crops, which have the widest distribution and highest yield in Hainan, mainly comprise rice, upland rice, shanlanpo rice, wheat, sweet potato, cassava, taro, maize, Chinese sorghum, millet and beans. Among the industrial crops are sugarcane, hemp, peanut, sesame, tea, etc. There also exist great variety of both cultivated and wild fruits that come under 29 families and 53 genera. Cultivated commodity fruits consist of pineapple, litchi, longan, banana, plantain, citrus, mango, watermelon, parambola, jackfruit, and the like. In addition, over 120 kinds of vegetables are grown here. Hainan Island is rich in tropical crop resources. Major tropical crops with large growing area and of high economic value include rubber plant, coconut palm, oil palm, betel palm, pepper, sisal hemp, lemon grass, cashew, cocoa and others.More than 4,000 kinds of plants grow in Hainan, roughly one-seventh of the nation's total, of which over 600 are peculiar to this island. Its tropical forests characterized by conspicuous vertical zoning and mixed growth of trees of different species and ages, and with high trunks and broad crowns are mainly distributed over the mountains of Wuzhi, Jianfeng, Bawang, Diaoluo and Limu, with those in the Wuzhi Mountain belonging to rain forests.Hainan is home to over 500 species of terrestrial vertebrates, including 37 kinds of amphibians (of which 11 are only discovered in Hainan, and eight have been listed as animals unique to China), 104 kinds of reptiles, 344 kinds of birds and 82 varieties of mammals (21 of which are peculiar to Hainan). In addition to black-crested gibbon one of the four anthropoid apes living on earth ¡¡ìC and slope deer (Cervus eldi) that are among the rarest species of the world, there are such treasured animals as sambar (Cervus unicolour), macaque and cloud-leopard. Currently, 14 kinds of wild animals here are under first-class state protection, and 88 under second-class state protection.Hainan is rich in medicinal herbs. Of the 4,000-odd kinds of plants growing here, about 2,500 can be used as medicinal herbs. Besides, about 50 kinds of animals and marine products can be used to serve medicinal purposes too.Vast offshore fishing grounds with an area of nearly 300,000 square kilometers, great variety of aquatic products with a short growth period, and long fishing season form the characteristics of Hainan's aquatic and marine resources turns Hainan into an ideal place to develop tropical marine fishery. There are more than 800 kinds of aquatic products here, including 600-odd fishes, of which over 40 are cash fishes. The province's coastal beaches that can be used for sea-farming totals up to 25,700 hectares.Hainan Island is China's ideal natural saltworks. Salt can be made by evaporating brine in the sun along its long coast stretching for hundreds of miles from Sanya to Dongfang. At present, several large saltworks, such as Yinggehai, Dongfang and Yuya, have been developed. Tourism resourcesDistinctive tourism resources abound in Hainan. Sandy coasts take about 50 to 60 percent of its 1,528-kilometer coastline. The beaches are usually hundreds of or thousands of meters wide, stretching gently into the sea with a slope of five degrees. Located alongside an unruffled sea, with crystal-clear seawater at the temperatures between 18 ?C and 30?C, plus bright and abundant sunlight, most of its beaches are good for swimming, sunbath, sand-bath and wind-bath almost all year round. Under the cool shade of the trees, the air is very refreshing too. Over 60 spots dispersed along the eastern coastline between Haikou and Sanya can be developed to bathing beaches. Also lie along the eastern coastline are mangroves and coral reefs that are unique to tropical coastal areas.Hainan is noted for its singularly-shaped mountains, of which many are tourist attractions and summer resorts. Densely spread tropical primeval forests are characteristic of Hainan's lofty mountains, such as the four most well-known virgin forest regions of Mount Jianfeng in Ledong County, Mount Bawang in Changjiang County, Mount Diaoluo in Lingshui County and Mount Wuzhi in Qiongzhong County.To protect rare birds and animals, several wildlife reserves and domesticating fields have been established in Hainan, including the Bawangling Black-crested Gibbon Reserve in Changjiang County, the Datian Slope Deer Reserve in Dongfang County, the Dazhou Isle Esculent Swift Reserve in Wanning City, and the Macaque Reserve on the Nanwan Peninsula in Lingshui County.Hainan Island is densely crossed by limpid rivers. Winding streams, deep pools, fantastic waterfalls and mirror-like reservoirs dotted in the mountains and virgin forests add beauty to the landscapes and attract tourists.Historical volcanic eruptions have left many craters on Hainan Island. Two typical craters connected by a caving-in gap-bed ridge are located on Mount Shuangling with an elevation of over 200 meters in Shishan, Qiongshan city. The nearby Leihuling Crater and Luojingpan Crater are also well preserved. In addition, there are a number of karst caves such as the well-known Luobi (Pen-dropping) Cave in Sanya, Qianlong (Thousand Dragon) Cave in Baoting County and Huangdi (Emperor) Cave in Changjiang County.Hot springs are widely dispersed on the island. Due to their low mineralization, high temperature, big flow and high quality, many of the hot spring waters have curative effects. Furthermore, the hot springs are all located in places with attractive landscapes, providing excellent conditions for developing holiday resorts for combined purposes of tourism, sightseeing, convalescence, and scientific researches.The island also offer many historical sites, such as the Wugong (Five Revered Officials) Temple in memory of five renowned court officials of the Tang (960-1279) and Song (618-907) dynasties who were relegated to Hainan Island; the Dongpo Academy of Classical Learning and Lord Su?¡¥s Temple in commemoration of Su Dongpo, a literary giant of the Northern Song Dynasty (960-1127); the Tomb of Qiu Jun, a noted official of the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644); the Grave of Hai Rui, an upright official of the Ming Dynasty; and Mafubo Well dug by General Fubo of the Eastern Han Dynasty (25-220), as said in legends. Other attractions of historical interest include the Ancient Town in Yazhou, the Wei Family Temple, Qiongtai Academy of Classical Learning, and Wenchang Pavilion. There are also revolutionary sites such as the former site of the Qiongya Corps headquarters; memorial statue to the Red Detachment of Women in Jiaji town; Jinniuling Cemetery of Revolutionary Martyrs; Memorial Hall of Baisha Uprising; Ancestral Home of the Song Family; and Mme Soong Ching-ling's Memorial Museum.Hainan is the home of the Li as well as many other ethnic groups who still hold to their unsophisticated folk customs and unique living habits, which have made the island even more valuable in culture and tourism.Farms of tropical crops on the island also present charming pictures of unique rural scenery.Environment and current issuesThe province has spared no efforts in maintaining the environment index at and above the first class. Comprehensive measures for improving urban environment have reduced noise pollution in main cities. The quality of both surface water and seawater in most areas has reached or even surpassed the country?¡¥s second class level. By the end of 2002, 19 environmental monitoring stations with 283 monitoring personnel have been established in the province, and 65 nature reserves, including six national and 22 provincial, have been set up. Total Population: 8.03 million (2002).Population growth rateIn 2002, Hainan had a birthrate of 15.2??, a mortality rate of 5.72?? and a natural Population growth rate of 9.48??.EthnicityHainan Province is home to 36 ethnic groups. Besides the Han, China?¡¥s majority, the Li, Miao and Hui are also natives of Hainan, with the Li being the earliest inhabitants on the island. As a consequence of Hainan?¡¥s development since 1950, the other 33 ethnic groups moved in successively. Most of the Li, Miao and Hui people settle in central and south Hainan, while the Han people inhabit northeast and north Hainan as well as the coastal areas.LiteracyIn 2002, 99.43 percent of school-aged children in Hainan went to school. Throughout that year, there were 1.02 million primary school pupils, 377,900 junior high school students, 78,300 high school students, 8,416 secondary vocational school students, 31,813 secondary technical school and normal school students, and 34,711 college students. HighwaysHainan's land communication relies mainly on highways with a total traffic mileage of over 17,000 km. A highway network links up all parts of the province owing to the three south-north and four east-west arterial highways that lead directly to all ports, cities and counties. Feeder highways stretch even farther into 318 villages and towns as well as all scenic spots on the island.Marine transportMarine transport occupies an important place in communications of sea-surrounded Hainan. The province has 68 natural harbors, of which 24 have been developed into ports, including the four largest, Haikou, Sanya, Basuo and Yangpu. Other major harbors encompass Qinglan, Puqian, Xincun, Baimajing, Bo?¡¥ao, Xinying, etc. The ports of Haikou and Sanya have opened 69 ocean navigation lines to reach overseas ports in 24 foreign countries and regions.AirportsTwo international airports, the Meilan International Airport in Haikou and the Fenghuang International Airport in Sanya, have been built in Hainan. From there, scheduled flights can reach 39 domestic and overseas cities, including Beijing, Shanghai, Tianjin, Guangzhou, Shenyang, Taiyuan, Xian, Changchun, Harbin, Dalian, Jinan, Qingdao, Yantai, Nanjing, Hefei, Ningbo, Fuzhou, Xiamen, Wenzhou, Chengdu, Chongqing, Kunming, Guiyang, Guilin, Zhengzhou, Wuhan, Changsha, Shenzhen, Shantou, Zhanjiang, Beihai, Changzhou, Lanzhou, Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, etc. Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Another tough day on Hainan Dao... http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8756/hainanmonkeyac2.jpg Link to comment
rogerluli Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Life on Hainan is for the birds...Hainan Blue Flycatcher http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2987/hainanblueflykhaoyai200yw1.jpg Link to comment
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