beijingjenny Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 I wanted to get Jack some Beijing duck, since I know he misses it. But we live in a very small town with nowhere to get something like that. Do you know if it's possible to order that by mail from somewhere? Just something like those prepackaged things you get in Beijing supermarkets. Link to comment
tywy_99 Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 http://www.pittsburghpostgazette.com/food/19990311duck1.asp This was the nearest thing I could find for "mail order Beijing Duck" but I found it!....Behold! the power of the internet!...it sure isn't my parents "World Book Encyclopedias" I grew up with!!............. Link to comment
Randy W Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Peking Duck v. Beijing Duck, Can we settle this once and for all? Link to comment
tywy_99 Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 (edited) Peking Duck v. Beijing Duck, Can we settle this once and for all?171852[/snapback]Interesting link, Randy. I noticed the talk about Peking Duck closely "sounding" like Pekin Duck, a type of breed.....lol. It's funny about Peking and Beijing because I have a 1978 TIME magazine published ATLAS and on the map of China, Beijing is called Peking, Guangzhou is Canton and Nanjing is called Nanking. Of course, Shanghai is called Shanghai is called Shanghai!...... So,, what happend with the names after 1978??.............. Edited November 26, 2005 by tywy_99 (see edit history) Link to comment
Randy W Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 (edited) An older Western name for Beijing is Peking. The term originated with French missionaries four hundred years ago, and corresponds to an older, now obsolete pronunciation predating a subsequent sound change in Mandarin from [k0µ3] to [t0¬1]. ([t0¬1] is represented in pinyin as j, as in Beijing.) I think that with the simplified Chinese, a lot of names took on a more local, standard pronunciation. Edited November 27, 2005 by Randy W (see edit history) Link to comment
beijingjenny Posted November 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Thanks! Now I just need to find one with the sauce and pancakes... and that I can afford I think most Westerners call it Peking Duck, while in Beijing for some reason they call it Beijing Duck Link to comment
jim_julian Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Ever look at your baggage tag when flying internationally into Beijing? PEK Link to comment
warpedbored Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Guangzhou is also CAN. I asked my wife about Peking vs Beijing once and she told me that years ago she called it Peking too. She doesn't know why. Link to comment
pkfops Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Guangzhou is also CAN. I asked my wife about Peking vs Beijing once and she told me that years ago she called it Peking too. She doesn't know why.172255[/snapback]Beijing (±±¾©) literally means "northern capital", in line with the common East Asian tradition whereby capital cities are explicitly named as such. Other cities similarly named include Nanjing (ÄϾ©), China, meaning "southern capital"; Tokyo (–|¾©), Japan, and Tonkin (–|¾©; now Hanoi), Vietnam, both meaning "eastern capital"; as well as Kyoto (¾©¶¼), Japan, and Gyeongseong (¾©³Ç; now Seoul), Korea, both meaning simply "capital". An older Western name for Beijing is Peking. The term originated with French missionaries four hundred years ago, and corresponds to an older, now obsolete pronunciation predating a subsequent sound change in Mandarin from [kʲ] to [tɕ]. ([tɕ] is represented in pinyin as j, as in Beijing.) In China, the city has had many names. Between 1928 [1] and 1949, it was known as Beiping (±±Æ½, Pinyin: Beiping, Wade-Giles: Pei-p'ing), literally "Northern Peace". The name was changed¡ªwith the removal of the element meaning "capital" (jing or king, ¾©)¡ªto reflect the fact that, with the Kuomintang government having established its capital in Nanking (pinyin: Nanjing), Peking was no longer the capital of China, and that the warlord government based in Peking was not legitimate. The Communist Party of China reverted the name to Beijing (Peking) in 1949 again in part to emphasize that Beijing had returned to its role as China's capital. The government of the Republic of China on Taiwan has never formally recognized the name change, and during the 1950s and 1960s it was common for Beijing to be called Peiping on Taiwan to imply the illegitimacy of the PRC. Today, almost all of Taiwan, including the ROC government, uses Beijing, although some maps of China from Taiwan still use the old name along with pre-1949 political boundaries. Yanjing (Wade Giles: Yenching) is and has been another popular informal name for Beijing, a reference to the ancient State of Yan that existed here during the Zhou Dynasty. This name is reflected in the locally-brewed Yanjing Beer as well as Yenching University, an institution of higher learner formerly located in Beijing. Beijing is also the Cambaluc (Khanbalik) described in Marco Polo's accounts. Link to comment
pkfops Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 If you can't get one of your city friends to stop at the Chinese deliand pick one up for you, try this. http://chinesefood.about.com/od/poultryrec.../pekingduck.htm Link to comment
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