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Hi Larry, what is the point of your post? Do you think I am Chinese? Do you think I am a "dancing monkey"? I am an American. Do you have any comments about this topic?
This person and the very idea is insidious and insanely laughable... like most ideas about China from the West. Keep hacking away folks. China is just superior and will eventually overcome all your attacks. Why the West wants to control all others is the real joke. The funny thing is China will appear to laugh with you when actually it laughs at you.
You know we use to have another guy on this forum, in fact he still comes around sometimes, that use to sound EXACTLY like you almost word for word. He has been in China for something like 6-8 years now and the next time that he post I want to get the two of you together for a little chat.
Larry
To add: His thoughts mirrored your exactly and he thought that he had turned yellow and become a Chinese person until the S-H-T-F and he found out very quickly that he was not a Chinese and will never be one. He was just another dancing monkey in a foreign country.
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crazy time all around the world when all governments (USA, USSR, PRC, etc.) unleashed everything they could to control an awakening public - lots of sad stories and the PRC is hardly the only one...
Japanese and Western sources like to point at China without adding that other countries shared a dark period.
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omg, beauty, gulp!
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This person and the very idea is insidious and insanely laughable... like most ideas about China from the West. Keep hacking away folks. China is just superior and will eventually overcome all your attacks. Why the West wants to control all others is the real joke. The funny thing is China will appear to laugh with you when actually it laughs at you.
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Taiwan is PRC. Plain and simple. The USA says so.
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I posted the notice last week in the SHOUT OUTS - we are all in the same boat brother
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Chinese and Japanese views toward each other hit 9-year low
http://english.people.com.cn/mediafile/201308/08/F201308080817202992620797.jpg
By Li Xiaokun (China Daily)
The impasse between Beijing and Tokyo over the Diaoyu Islands has badly hurt the attitude of both peoples toward their neighbor, with nine out of 10 saying they dislike the other nation, a recent survey has found.
Results of the survey, co-sponsored by China Daily and the Japanese nonprofit think tank Genron NPO, are the worst in almost a decade. They are even worse than in 2005, when Japan's then-prime minister Junichiro Koizumi repeatedly visited the Yasukuni Shrine honoring Japan's war dead, including war criminals from World War II.
Despite this mutual aversion, 72 percent of Chinese and 74 percent of Japanese see ties as "important". Corresponding figures in Chinese and Japanese intellectual groups reached 80 percent and 92 percent.Without a breakthrough in relations, "similar surveys will find people's emotions hitting a new low in the future", said Lyu Yaodong, head of Japanese diplomacy studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.
With the Japanese government continuing to deny the existence of a dispute over the Diaoyu Islands, there will be little hope for a summit between the two to break the ice, observers said.
The two countries had agreed to put aside issues surrounding the islands as Beijing and Tokyo focused on warming up their political and economic ties over the past four decades. But recent Japanese governments have sought to change the status quo and deny the existence of a dispute, which angered China.
The findings show that 92.8 percent of Chinese surveyed hold a negative attitude toward Japan, 28 percentage points higher than last year. Similarly, 90.1 percent of ordinary Japanese have negative feelings toward China, in contrast to 84.3 percent last year.
Hu Jiping, director of the Institute of Japanese Studies at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, said the neighbors are in urgent need of negotiations to break the ice and stop relations getting worse.
"It is impractical to expect the territorial dispute to be solved completely. We can only agree on provisional arrangements at the moment," Hu said.
The annual China Daily/Genron NPO poll elicits responses from all sections of society.
This year, the poll, conducted in June and July, included 1,540 Chinese in Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, Shenyang and Xi'an, 200 of the social elite from around the country and 802 university students and teachers at five top Beijing universities.
In Japan, 1,000 adults and 805 intellectuals, mostly with experience of China, were interviewed.
The attitudes of intellectuals in both nations are more moderate, with 52.8 percent of the Chinese group and 36.3 percent of the Japanese seeing each other in a positive way.
The biggest reason for the negative attitude is the Diaoyu Islands, with 53.2 percent of ordinary Japanese choosing it in the multiple-choice question. The number of Chinese dissatisfied over the issue has nearly doubled, from 39.8 percent last year to 77.6 percent this year.
The second major reason for Chinese dislike of Japan is that "Japan has not sincerely apologized for its aggression against China". That corresponds with the second reason for Japanese dislike of China: "Chinese criticism of Japan over historical issues".
When asked about Japan, the most common first thought among Chinese is now the Diaoyu Islands, overtaking "electronic products".
The most common answer among Japanese toward China is still Chinese food, although one-third chose the Diaoyu Islands issue and another third chose air pollution.
To solve the Diaoyu Islands issue, most Japanese chose negotiations and international arbitration. But a majority of the well-educated Japanese said the priority should be avoiding accidental military conflicts, and almost half chose "putting aside disputes and seeking common development of the disputed area".
On the Chinese side, more than half of the respondents support "consolidating Chinese control (over the disputed area) to guard the territory", while the second most supported choice was "having Japan admit the existence of the territorial dispute through diplomatic efforts".
Despite strong Chinese demand for holding onto the islands, nearly half of the Japanese surveyed said there will be no military conflict between China and Japan in the sea.
But in China, more than a third said "there will be military conflict in the future".
China and Japan have not held a summit since tensions escalated in mid 2012.
"We can see a strong demand from the Japanese for negotiations, but the biggest problem in arranging a summit lies with the Japanese government, as Tokyo denies the existence of the territorial dispute," said Hu, from the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations.
"In that case, there will be little possibility for a summit, as such a meeting will be meaningless."
Mo Jingxi contributed to this story.Funny that the most common first thought from the Japanese about China is CHINESE FOOD!
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Okay, so I guess no one here has ever done this. Well, there's a first time for everything.
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My gawd, so much money. Each transfer is more than the average Chinese person makes in a year!
... When my wife went to transact the $7,000 I just sent her... In August I'll be sending Wenyan another $7,000usd ... -
Has anyone on CFL ever had a second child in China with their Chinese spouse? Did they have to pay a fine as if they were both Chinese having a second kid?
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Hopefully we can have a child without paying some fine. i would think the child would be Chinese but at some future date could change to American if it wanted.
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Me and my mate would like to produce a child together. We live in Wuhan, Hubei, PRC. I am an American, she is Chinese. She has a Chinese child from a previous marriage. So this would be her second child. What is the official policy about this? Can she have a child with me in marriage without penalty?
You have two choices - contact her hukou to find out what their policy is, or to register the child's American citizenship.
So, ask someone else? Or register the child as an American? Wouldn't an American child have to pay much more to live in China (we do not have any plan to ever move to the USA)?
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"Lust, Caution" is a good movie by Lee Ang but the fact is "comfort women" are prisoners of war... this movie is about something very different.
Great yet sad memorial to women who are still to this day being used as war conquests.
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Me and my mate would like to produce a child together. We live in Wuhan, Hubei, PRC. I am an American, she is Chinese. She has a Chinese child from a previous marriage. So this would be her second child. What is the official policy about this? Can she have a child with me in marriage without penalty?
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WeChat, a popular social networking application developed by Chinese Internet giant Tencent Holdings Ltd, has attracted more than 70 million overseas users, a company executive said on Wednesday.
"WeChat has successfully entered South Asia markets, such as India, Thailand and Malaysia," said Martin Lau, Tencent president. Other major markets include Mexico and South America.
The number using WeChat overseas reached 40 million in April and 50 million in May.
Lau also pledged to further develop Tencent's presence outside the Chinese mainland.
"We see the mobile Internet industry as the biggest chance to take our business abroad," said Lau. "Tencent is ready to enter the world stage."
I wonder how many USA CFL members have WeChat in their house?
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Former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden's revelations of widespread snooping by his country's security authorities have stirred a fresh round of finger-pointing on cyber issues on the world arena.
The quarrels, like a fever, sometimes are not a bad thing. They raise the alarm bells towards the urgency to address the root cause of the problem -- in this case, a lack of international norms to govern the cyberspace, said experts participating in the World Peace Forum 2013 in Beijing on June 27-28.
They also warned the scale of cyber theft is so large to the extent that it hurts national interests of many countries where the Internet has become an important infrastructure playing a significant role in such fields as economy, social development and national defense.
Many countries are becoming increasingly vulnerable to cyber attacks, former U.S. ambassador to China J. Stapleton Roy said, noting the issue has become a focus of a large number of governments around the world.
Besides, cyber security has become a major irritant in several bilateral relations, hurting mutual trust and friendship between countries, Roy said.
Chen Xiaogong, a member of Foreign Affairs Committee of the National People's Congress, described cyber space as a new battle field, cautioning that if countries should allow cyber arms race to take place, it could cause consequences worse than a nuclear war.
Acknowledging the urgency to contain the disordering of the cyberspace and set up relevant international norms, experts also expressed optimistic over the world community's ability to do so.
Experts noted that China and the United States, the world's two largest economies, have put the issue of cyber security on top of their cooperation.
Chinese President Xi Jinping and his U.S. counterpart Barack Obama highlighted the importance of cyber security in their summit earlier this month in the U.S. state of California.
In the meantime, the two countries have been preparing a working group specialized in cyber security and they have agreed to hold high-level talks in July.
However, the surprising revelation by Snowden of widespread hacking by U.S. National Security Agency in China's Hong Kong has caused grave concerns from Beijing.
"The United States wants a quick solution to the problem and minimize its negative influence on U.S.-China relations," international relations professor Jia Qingguo of Peking University told Xinhua.
"But the key lies in how much progress the two countries will achieve in July's strategic and economic dialogue. If they can make notable progress, Snowden's adverse impact on bilateral relations will be repaired pretty soon."
The Chinese expert suggested Beijing and Washington try to find broader common grounds on cyber cooperation. The two countries have many common interests in deterring cyber attacks on infrastructure, military and even nuclear facilities, which "could be as terrible as terrorism."
On Internet spying programs, both countries may need to draw up a framework since there is a fine line between attacks and information collection, said the expert.
Still, cyber security is rather a multilateral issue than a bilateral one, which cannot be realized by cooperation only between China and the United States, Chen said.
He suggested countries use the United Nations and other global organizations as platforms to carry out multilateral talks on cyber security and devise rules.
cyber inclusion is the key, not just for countries that can afford it, and those who can't will just be plundered
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In LA officials have filed ordinance violations, nothing more, and just on a couple places. Hardly a "crackdown".
"In China, finding loopholes may still be considered acceptable, if not respected as smart... But we should ask whether we should take advantage of loopholes just because they exist."
I know those in the USA consider it acceptable, probably in every country.
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/27/132492688_51n.jpg
Peter Launsky-Tieffenthal ®, UN Under-Secretary-General for Communications and Public Information, shakes hands with Xinhuanet CEO Tian Shubin in Beijing, June 27, 2013. (Xinhuanet Photo)
BEIJING, June 27 (Xinhuanet) – Cyber security, as a global challenge, is being dealt with by the United Nations, said an United Nations official here on Thursday.
In an exclusive interview with Xinhuanet, Peter Launsky-Tieffenthal, Under-Secretary-General for Communications and Public Information, said, "Cyber security is one of those challenges that can only be faced jointly."
"And since the UN offers a platform to deal with global challenges, cyber security being such a global challenge, is also being dealt with by the UN," he added.
Cyber attacks along with terrorism and piracy are new threats currently facing the international community, and collective efforts should be taken to counter these challenges.
Nearly 14.2 million mainframes in China were hijacked by 73,286 overseas IPs via Trojan or Botnet in 2012, according to a recent report by the National Computer Network Emergency Response Coordination Center, China's top Internet coordination center.
In fact, China itself suffers from Internet hacking, never a major source of such attacks as accused of by some countries.
Being a major victim of cyber attacks, China has reiterated its firm opposition to any form of cyber attacks on many occasions.
The Chinese government has been taking vigorous efforts to crack down on online crimes and hacking attacks.
China has launched dozens of campaigns against backdoor spying and malicious software, cutting off remote control by tens of millions of IP addresses.
Also, it has called on the international community to make a code of conduct for cyberspace and make joint efforts to build a peaceful, secure, open and cooperative cyberspace.
Just as Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a regular press conference that cyberspace needs cooperation and international rules.
Relevant parties should observe the spirit of mutual respect and trust, actively carry out dialogue and cooperation, properly resolve the issue of online security and jointly safeguard peace, security, openness and cooperation in cyberspace, Hua stressed at the conference.
Mutual respect and trust... quite different than mutual assured destruction... kudos to the UN!
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Kudos for the detailed report. Thanks for the considerate and helpful time you spent preparing it.
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I don't see any China bashing in that at all. If they had wanted to "play him for their own benefit" for propaganda purposes, they would have kept him in Hong Kong. Now the issue goes away, at least the public side of it. Any intelligence gathering they did (or didn't do) is now past history and fair game. Hopefully, a lesson learned by the U.S. on security clearances (access to information) and the security of electronic data.
The piece states the Chinese played him for their own benefit, that is bashing. Hopefully a lesson has been learned by the USA to stop spying and hypocrisy, but of course it will not end.
I don't see any China bashing in it either. If anything it is the opposite. It looks to me like China got everything of value they could out of him and cut him loose. IMO Snowden is a criminal who broke several serious laws in disclosing top secret classified information to a foreign government. He was a NSA employee who willingly signed documents promising not to disclose that information yet decided he would be judge and jury as to whether or not the public should know. Every government in the world, everyday, does secret things their citizens would be aghast about if they knew. I would bet money that if a Chinese secret service employee were to do the same he would face very serious consequences.
The piece states the Chinese played him for their own benefit and you agree, that is bashing. "Every government in the world, everyday, does secret things their citizens would be aghast about if they knew" so it is fair that every citizen that pays for the government should know and be allowed to object. Whistleblowers are not criminals, they are patriots.
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Another Western slanted piece on China by the nytimes
China Said to Have Made Call to Let Leaker Depart
By JANE PERLEZ and KEITH BRADSHER Published: June 23, 2013BEIJING — The Chinese government made the final decision to allow Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor, to leave Hong Kong on Sunday, a move that Beijing believed resolved a tough diplomatic problem even as it reaped a publicity windfall from Mr. Snowden’s disclosures, according to people familiar with the situation.
Bobby Yip/ReutersSupporters of Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor, with his photograph at a demonstration outside the American Consulate in Hong Kong this month.
Hong Kong authorities have insisted that their judicial process remained independent of China, but these observers — who like many in this article spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk freely about confidential discussions — said that matters of foreign policy are the domain of the Chinese government, and Beijing exercised that authority in allowing Mr. Snowden to go.
From China’s point of view, analysts said, the departure of Mr. Snowden solved two concerns: how to prevent Beijing’s relationship with the United States from being ensnared in a long legal wrangle in Hong Kong over Mr. Snowden, and how to deal with a Chinese public that widely regards the American computer expert as a hero.
“Behind the door there was definitely some coordination between Hong Kong and Beijing,” said Jin Canrong, professor of international relations at Renmin University in Beijing.
Beijing’s chief concern was the stability of the relationship with the United States, which the Chinese believed had been placed on a surer footing during the meeting between President Xi Jinping and President Obama at the Sunnylands estate in California this month, said Mr. Jin and a person knowledgeable about the Hong Kong government’s handling of Mr. Snowden.
The Chinese government was pleased that Mr. Snowden disclosed the extent of American surveillance of Internet and telephone conversations around the world, giving the Chinese people a chance to talk about what they describe as American hypocrisy regarding surveillance practices, said Mr. Jin and the person familiar with the consultations between Hong Kong and China.
But in the longer term, China’s overall relationship with the United States, which spans global economic, military and security issues, was more important than the feelings of the public in China and Hong Kong, who felt that the contractor should be protected from the reach of the United States, analysts said.
Mainland Chinese officials “will be relieved he’s gone — the popular sentiment in Hong Kong and China is to protect him because he revealed United States surveillance here, but the governments don’t want trouble in the relationship,” said the person familiar with the consultations between Beijing and Hong Kong.
Mr. Snowden went public in Hong Kong on June 9, the day after the meeting between Mr. Obama and Mr. Xi ended, as the source of a series of disclosures in the British newspaper The Guardian and The Washington Post about classified national security programs.
The stream of information about the extent of American worldwide eavesdropping shifted the focus in the public sniping between the Obama administration and China over cybersecurity that had been unfolding for months.
In a series of speeches, senior officials in the Obama administration, including the national security adviser, Tom Donilon, and the defense secretary, Chuck Hagel, had taken the offensive against China, publicly accusing it of cyberespionage against American businesses. Mr. Donilon said in a speech in March that China was responsible for theft of confidential business information and proprietary technologies through digital intrusions on an “unprecedented scale.”
In response to those accusations, China said that it was the victim of cyberattacks from the United States.
Mr. Snowden’s disclosures appeared to confirm the Chinese government’s argument, and put the United States on the defensive. The highly classified documents that Mr. Snowden gave to the two newspapers showed that the N.S.A. compiled logs of virtually all telephone calls in the United States and collected the e-mail of foreigners from American Internet companies.
Mr. Snowden has denied giving China classified documents and said he had spoken only to journalists. But his public statements, directly and to reporters, have contained intelligence information of great interest to China.
Two Western intelligence experts, who worked for major government spy agencies, said they believed that the Chinese government had managed to drain the contents of the four laptops that Mr. Snowden said he brought to Hong Kong, and that he said were with him during his stay at a Hong Kong hotel.
If that were the case, they said, China would no longer need or want to have Mr. Snowden remain in Hong Kong.
The disclosures by Mr. Snowden set off a surge of commentary against American “double faced” and “arrogant” behavior by many users of China’s version of Twitter.
In some instances, the Chinese news media made snide references to what it called the gap between how the United States portrayed itself, and what the United States practiced. “Washington must be grinding its teeth because Snowden’s revelations have almost overturned the image of the U.S. as the defender of a free Internet,” Global Times, which often reflects the official point of view, wrote in an editorial.
The precise details of how the Chinese government dealt with Hong Kong authorities were not immediately known.
But Beijing appears to have decided that weeks of focus on Mr. Snowden in Hong Kong and his disclosures about the American government’s global surveillance practices were enough, and that he could turn into a liability, said a second person familiar with the handling of Mr. Snowden. “Beijing has gotten the most they can out of the Snowden situation,” that person said.
A senior diplomat familiar with the way the Chinese government works said just before the departure of Mr. Snowden became public that he believed that Beijing would do all it could to keep Mr. Snowden out of American hands. The Chinese public would be outraged if the contractor was extradited, put on trial and jailed, he said. At the same time, the Obama administration would put relentless pressure on Beijing to get Mr. Snowden, he said.
“I see the sun of Sunnylands disappearing into the snow of Snowden,” the diplomat said.
A very cynical and speculative piece, that somehow Snowden is bad but the government and people of China just played him for their own benefit. Snide anti-China piece again from the nytimes.
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Would someone like to share info on how the cost of medical in the USA is soooooo expensive? A low deductible might be because you pay so much for insurance in the first place? No industrialized nation in the world runs a for-profit system like the USA does at such high costs.
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... My lady is coming along with me (on a travel visa). Before the got the visa the ticket prices were hovering around the $1000 mark, but then after she secured her travel visa on June 3, the prices, much to our chagrin, spiked up. Our patience paid off and I was really happy to get the $1000 tickets last week.....
Actually, I live in Beijing, and have continuously for the past 3 years. This is going to be my first trip back to Milwaukee in since June 2010. I also previously spent a year in Beijing in 2005, and 10 months in Guangzhou in 2007...
I am very happy that your lady is going and about the the travel visa.
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