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Welcome home Tsap and Li'l Rabbit!!

I am writing a fairly detailed overview of our ride on the visa roller coaster for the benefit of those who will travel this I am writing a fairly detailed overview of our ride on the visa roller coaster for the benefit of those who will travel this path after me. I have benefited from the writings and advice of those who went before me. Now it is my turn to share with the community for the benefit of others. First, I would like to share our timeline and red flag list with you. Red Flags: Recently divorced before meeting (Filed 02/2010 and finalized 05/2010) Multiple previous divorces Engaged on my first trip to China Short relationship prior to filing the petition Timeline: 06/26/10 - met online 08/12/10 - 08/23/2010 - 1st trip/meeting in Chengdu 09/27/10 - 10/11/2010 - 2nd trip/meeting in Chengdu/Deyang 11/02/10 - I-129F sent to NSC (stoopid da lawyer sent the petition in da slow mail) 11/12/10 - NOA1 12/07/10 - 12/14/2010 - 3rd trip to Chengdu/Deyang 01/27/10 - 02/17/2010 - 4th trip to Chengdu/Deyang (Spent a week together in Thailand with a Chinese tour group) 05/12/11 - received P2 05/19/11 - NVC received 06/01/11 - NVC file scanned and uploaded to Guangzhou 06/13/11 - P3 sent from GUZ 06/23/11 - P3 forms sent to GUZ (Did not receive the packet from GUZ yet) 06/28/11 - P3 received by GUZ 07/04/11 - P4 documents received 07/26/11 - Interview Day - Approved! Other than the 6 month wait for P2 things were fairly smooth. We had everything prepared long before P2 was received and wanted to try to get an August interview date. Surprisingly, our file went to Guangzhou solely via SAFEFILE, a fact I was very happy about. I was calling NVC regularly to stay on top of the process. Now, we only had to time the P3 docs to be received at the consulate. Watching the timelines I estimated 30 - 45 days out from receipt of forms to interview date. I tried to strike the balance so the interview would occur some time in August. No luck, GUZ receives the packet on June 28th and the interview gets scheduled for July 26/27. Oh well..... We did not want to take the chance on a reschedule so we let it goes as it is and sent in the P3 docs right away. Well, the twists and turns now begin and here is our first twist. It comes in 2 parts. First, she realizes that she did not sign the DS-230. The second part is that now her son has changed his mind after she submitted the first P3 packet and now he wants to come to the U.S. I think it would have been difficult for her here without him, but we both felt it was better to let him make the decision. I had no issue with her son changing his mind, in fact I expected this to happen at some point and I really wanted him to join her. Having recently read a horror story about contacting GUZ and making changes with the P3, I was concerned about the impact this may have. However, I didn't say anything to her about that situation and I contacted GUZ immediately. I had GUZ void the irst package and we sent out a new one right way. Ok, that issue is now taken care of and we recieve the P4. The twists and turns only continue at this point. Now, her son's name is not on the appointment letter. SNAFU. Apparently they went by the first packet's information. Damn, this ride is beginning to get a bit wild. More emails to GUZ, again. I'm thinking that this is now a major a disaster in the making. GUZ decides to bypass me and work with her directly which is fine by me. It gets resolved quickly and her new appointment letter is good! Now, this wild ride is not over yet, it only gets better. I sent the I-134, tax returns, etc. to her on the 8th with an expected delivery date no later than the 15th. Sorry Charlie, time for P4 turn 2. This is one hell of a hairy ride now. On the 18th we both try to track the package from our ends. We can't find the problem and she leaves for Guangzhou in a few more days. Considering that she leaves for Guangzhou on the 22nd, I begin to prepare a new package to send her. On the nineteent we find out what the problem is. Apparently there was a suspicious package in the EMS shipment that had my documents to her. The shipment (with my financials in it) could not go by air and had to travel over land. I guess if a truck blows up it'sier to sweep under the rug than if a plane does. Good gravy, can this get any worse? Maybe I shouldn't ask. Ok, we steel ourselves for a Blue slip on the financials while I prepare a new package to send to her. I manage to get all the info together again and I am ready to overnight it to the Yang's in the morning so that she will have it for the interview. We coordinate so that her and the Yang's will expect the package as I will send it overnight first thing in the morning. The following morning (let's not forget the 12 hour time difference, it is now her evening) She tells me that she recieved my original package. Whew! What a relief! Ok, so 12 hours of scrambling on my end for naught but now everything is good and she is ready to head to Guangzhou. Man, it has got to get better now. On Saturday they have their medicals at United Family. She had a medical exam for work in April so we knew this would be a walk in the park. Once again, sorry Charlie, enjoy the ride. After getting all the preliminary work completed and the X-rays taken she is notified that there is a problem. She has another X-ray taken and she is cleared. She thanks them but the doctor makes a comment that stops her and her son in their tracks. It troubles her but she continues on. Since I have not been able to accurately translate this portion of her narrative, I will leave it to those who are better versed in the language than I am. Here is her original narration of the medical. 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The Chinese person taking the materials in seems to have a bad attitude but it is chalked up to the person just being very serious. The document checker reviewed a welcome letter from both a friend of mine as well as one from my son that was attached to my I-134. After going back and forth about it they finally decided to include them with my I-134 during the checkin. She was then questioned about the way her hair was done in the passport pictures and why it was different today. The implication being that it was not the same person and that the pictures were old. On interview day, she begins her review at 4 A.M. since she could not sleep. She wants to make sure her answers are short, accurate, and decisive. At 7 A.M. they are lined up and ready. Fortunately, it is not hot at that hour of the morning. She receives 2 text messages, one from me and one from her eldest sister, wishing her good luck and to take the Pink slip. The interview itself was surprisingly easy. Naturally, Yuhong was nervous. She was worried because her English is not very good. However, she knows that this is her only weak point and is confident of our relationship. About 10 A.M. her number is called and her and her son gather the materials and head towards the window. As she approaches the window she takes the initiative and blurts out "Good morning, nice to meet you!" in English. The VO responded with "nice to meet you, too" and immediately followed it with several English sentences spoken very quickly. At this point she was expecting a simple interview question and was totally unprepared for a long string of quickly spoken English. She is initially flustered and filled with fear at not understanding what the VO said to her. Fortunately, we had practiced this scenario and she quickly regains her composure and is able to reply right away. In English, Yuhong apologized and said that she only speaks a little English and asks if she can use Chinese. The VO said "OK" and switched to Mandarin and said "Chinese is fine". Now that the interview is in Chinese she is fully confident in her ability to answer any question. The questions she was asked (in no particular order) were: VO: How many times did he come to China? Y: 4 VO: When was the first time? Y: Gives the dates VO: When was the second time? Y: Gives the dates VO: When was the third time? Y: Gives the dates VO: When was the fourth time? Y: Gives the dates VO: What does he do for a living? Y: Tells her my occupation. VO: What city does he live in? Y: Jacksonville, Florida VO: What do you love about him? Y: She provides very specific things VO: Your fiance has several children? Y: She tells the VO about my children VO: When was he divorced? Y: Divorced in May 2010, but seperated in February VO: When were you divorced? Y: Gives the date VO: Have you been to the U.S.? Y: No VO: Where have you traveled? Y: Thailand with my fiance VO: How do you communicate? Y: Some English and Some Chinese Her son was asked: VO: Are you are a student? S: I just graduated VO: What will you do when you go to the United States? S: The first thing I must do is study English Returning to Yuhong: VO: Do you have photos? Yuhong hands the photos over to her. The VO looked at some of our pictures (many of them include her family and close friends), read some of our video chat screen shots (shows us writing English, Chinese, and Pinyin). The VO then picked out a screenshot of me holding my grandson during one of our chats. She asked Yuhong "Who is this?" while pointing to him. She tells the VO that it is my grandson and tells her his name. The the VO immediately pulls out the pink slip (apparently it was already prepared) and said "You Passed" She replied "Thank you, have a nice day" and went to sit down and gather her materials and put them away. The others mentioned how quick it was and her son replied, "about 10 minutes". They all laughed and said "No, maybe two minutes at the most"!

You're reading it correctly. Just my luck. A few days after I file my petition they reduce the cost. A few days after her interview, they can mail the visa anywhere in China.

One last comment Hey Bobby, I'm right behind you. I'll be going mid September to bring them home. B)

Take a look at Nissan's AWD Rogue. Edit to fix typo.

A Congrats is in order here even though I knew last night. Well done Andrew. My situation was not that far off from yours. We documented every potential red flag up front. I am sure the girls will continue to converse. July has been a good month. Once again, congratulations to you on a job well done.

Thanks everyone! She is scanning her license for me to verify. It appears that there is enough English on it that she will not need the international permit. Florida allows the use of a foreign license as long as it can be identified as a drivers License. The thought of her and her son driving in the U.S. just scares the Bejezus out of me at this point. I sure hope driving school isn't very expensive.

Looking ahead I want my fiancee to get an international driving permit from China. Her Chinese drivers license is valid in my home state of Florida. However, if she is stopped and they do not know it is a drivers license she can be cited. So my question is where would she have to go in order to obtain the international driving permit before she leaves China.

I think yours would be a court-ordered Adjustment of Status, so you should get any details at this hearing or through your lawyer. But yes, I would interpret the response they filed as being an acknowledgment of the ruling, and that all future K-2's will be handled correctly. I have been following this thread closely as my future stepson will turn 21 in November. They will travel to the U.S. in the latter part of September. I do not want to delay our marriage and submission of the AOS in fear of an age-out.

Thanks, hopefully GUZ sees it that way.. With that timeline you should have an easy pink. As long as all your ducks are in a row as far as the proofs and documentation is concerned I don't see any issue at all.

If it wasn't for the members here, and their advice and wisdom, I don't think we would have had an easy approval. David made me re-think my approach and focus on the red flag issues and address them right from the get go. Not only that but his advice made me wait until I had a second visit under my belt before petitioning. Although he seems tough and negative at times, it is a wise man that listens to his advice. The wealth of information and advice on this board is invaluable to anyone going on this ride. I read every post on this board at least once and some more than once. Were it not for Don, this board, and all those who stayed and contributed, I doubt we would have gotten the pink. I believe we would have gotten a white slip if it was not for this board. My hat is off to all those who came before me and stayed here to help and guide the newbies. I only hope that in some small way I will be able to contribute to those coming after me.

Thanks Bull, will do.

Thankin ya kindly sir. From ya'll who have endured more than any couple should, it it is a wonderful blessing. Iffin ya'll don;t mind, while I don't feel worthy given what you'se endured, I'll be takin it and runnin wif it iffin you don't mind .

I will post all the info after she has time to settle down. The only question she remembers right now is "Have you ever been to the U.S.?" LOL I am currently stateside. She is flying back to Chengdu/Deyang tonight. She will come stateside in September. She has a lot of things to tie up before she leaves. She has vacation in August and wants to train her replacement before she leaves. I would not be that dedicated.