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1) don't want the hassle. don't want to pay $500.00 2) don't like anal persons who exceed their authority. (only Federal immigration agents have a right to see Wife's green card) "This discussion has ben about greencard holders, but it seems VERY arbitrary to allow anyone to start asking people for citizenship proof, and you have to presume some percentage of the people asked for "proof" will be citizens. " Exactly the point isn't it? "Some percentage" ??? My guess is that the overwhelming percentage of those who state that they are US Citizens ----and then go on to present their: Driver's licenses, registration, and proof of insurance -------------- are in fact, US Citizens, legally in the country. NOW: My guess is that the overwhelming percentage of those who state that they are Permanent Residents----and then go on to present their: Driver's licenses, registration and proof of insurance ----------- are in fact, Permanent Residents, legally in the country. Do we really want to support the extra hassle ---and yes, in some instances, racial profiling, and as a result--- police possibly asking for favors---- (after midnight on a rural road) ---of our SOs or ANY legal immigrant?? Yep, $370 As for proof of US citizenship, they will not and cannot ask for this. However showing a state ID like a drivers license is enough to satisfy anyone. States do not give out ID's or Driver's license unless legal presence is demonstrated. A green-card holder that presents a State ID or DL will more than likely be treated the same as a US Citizen and waived on. An Illegal Alien more than likely will not have a State ID, or DL. Even if green-card holder or citizen has no ID on them, the authority can quickly verify who you are by looking you up, the states do share this information. So what is the big deal about this new law again? When I read it I saw that they would only ask for proof of immigrant status if one was stopped for a legal/valid reason AND they suspected, due to various factors, that the person was in the country illegally. How did that go to our Chinese spouses being pulled over at midnight and raped in addition to locking down threads???? I am so confused ...

I would agree with those three reasons. i just brought a round trip economy ticket to USA/China for $2,000. Usually about $800 but also Delta eliminated the Shanghai to ATL flight so now I get to fly to Detroit, ATL and then to FLA.

Outcome ... ?

In those two cases it does not seem to be such a bad disease ..

If it wasn't racist then why weren't Germans and Italians put in internment camps too? I told you already why they were not ... they looked like other WASPs Still has nothing to do with the AZ immigration law

That sucks! Sorry, to hear this! When we were in Guangzhou, our apartment was entered twice by strangers who had keys. I hear what you're saying and couldn't agree with you more. http://uschinak1.com/forums/index.php?show...mp;#entry526766 http://uschinak1.com/forums/index.php?s=&a...st&p=526944 Never had this problem in the hotel next to IKEA. It cost 400 RMB/night but that is still cheaper than most hotels in USA. The same is true all over the world ... you get what you pay for .... this does not make GUZ a bad place ...

That sucks! Sorry, to hear this! When we were in Guangzhou, our apartment was entered twice by strangers who had keys. I hear what you're saying and couldn't agree with you more. http://uschinak1.com/forums/index.php?show...mp;#entry526766 http://uschinak1.com/forums/index.php?s=&a...st&p=526944

30 RMB /night?

I agree with what you said about the bad apples but it would seem they could still look at the total situation and make a good judgement. In my case I had been here for an expat assignment with a USA company for 2 years and had a contract clearly showing my end date in China far off into the future. Clearly there was intent for us to come back to China but we got the same response when we tried for the visitor's visa. European expat, however, have no problem getting a vistor's visa for their Chinese spouses.

The Germans and Italians were not rounded up (even the first generation immigrants) because they looked "white American". I, for one, thought we had as a country moved past this thinking (hence I saw no problem with the AZ law).

Only need a copy. Scan and email is fine.

So far so good. Today Fengjie got her green card. She did not understand what it was until I got someone to tell her in Chinese. So it is all good now. Today when I came home from work she had cleaned the garage. She is just that kind of woman. How are you to doing? Life in America is different for the both of us. Michael Glad to hear things are going well. We have settled in nicely and like any married couple have our share of disagreements. Cleaning is not her forte I am also glad that things are going well Michael. Sounds like Fengjie is adapting well. Sam, are you sure that you married a Chinese woman? I am not so sure......maybe I should get a genetic test done. My wife's neither ... she hired a cleaning woman while we are here in China. I keep telling her it will be much more expensive to hire one in the USA. Wait a minute ..... of course, like a Chinese rest./politican, I can hire an illegal immigrant and pay in cash.

Yu's contention was that he did stop, but that the officers simply sat in their car, so he drove on. But the big tip off for the street cops was this little matter of race. Exactly the reason for my op --- as it relates to Arizona. You got an Asian guy without a rear plate, (which is chump change) maybe you want to make it something bigger... maybe not---but you REALLY don't want this guy to just ignore you. You see he's headed into consulate grounds, (don't give us any BS that a cop on the beat every day doesn't know this...) As a beat cop you really have only one option: Radio dispatch to report to the consulate a possible security breach----so that the rather extensive---assigned police contingent can investigate from there, or you can break all protocol and do what happened here. I don't see how it relates to AZ ... it is normal for the police to not get out of their cars after they stop you until they have contacted dispatch and checked the situation. Yu does not say how long he waited for but does it really matter. When you stop for the police you wait for them to come to you not drive off. I seen and had meetings/dinner with enough Chinese govt officals to know what a "dick who thinks there shit dont stink" they can be .. I side with the Houston police.

I like Mikey's idea - beer works. You boil beer ?? I don't but it works for cooking German sausage. I was actually responding to Tony's use for tooth brushing. Not sure I'd waste it for dish washing, though. Yea this is good for a cold .. surprisingly enough to me .. I tried boiled coke with gingers, with suggestions from my wife's friend. It worked fine.

I thought the MIN Wage in NY was $7.25/hr? yes, the min wage in ny is 7.25/hr but she was working in a chinese business and they dont take taxes out, all cash transactions. its the same for most resturants in chinatown and very common too. this is one way an owner can take advantage of you where the wokers dont know english and the law, and most workers need the money so they keep quiet and go with the flow. life goes on. edit: i meant my wife do not pay any taxes. Kind of a pisser for those of us who pay taxes per the law ...

I heard the news. My first reaction is what will happen to my mileages accrued at both carriers. Are they (the combined companies) going to require 70K miles in your account to be eligible to a free round trip ticket between US and China, as it recenly increased from 60K miles to 65K miles? My second thought is what will happen to the prices of US-China routes. Continental and UAL are both major carriers of US-China rountes. I hope this merger will not create any monopolistic power over prices. I've always used Delta because of living in the southeast close to ATL. I imagine this merger will play out like the Delta-Northwest one. They were code share partners so no one lost miles and requirements for free tickets did not change. The new mileage system is however the old Delta one. Regarding flights to China the merger did reduce options and increase price. Used to I could fly directly from Shanghai or use Korean Air as code share partner and go from Hong Kong/Qingdao/etc. Now they force you to go through Japan using the old Northwest flight and their website only gives you the Hong Kong/Korean Air option as a high price (3-4X) alternative now. It will save some money ... all on the back of the employees as they are kicked in the ass and booted out the door.

It was someone's else cash and now it is yours ... thus a Cash Recycling Machine ... For the most part Chinglish at the banks, parks, govt. signs, etc. never were an issue to me. In fact it usually gives me a smile and a laugh while still allowing me to understand what they meant. What always is a pet peeve to me is to go to an expensive chinese/western resturant and find a menu that is completely worthless with the expression such as "Fried Sleeve Fish", "Jew's Ear", etc. It took me 3 months to learn that Fried Sleeve Fish was really Fried Calamari...one would think the management would spend the money and take the time to produce an accurate translation for their menu especially considering the fact that when you ask the wait staff "what is it" they don't know either.

I thought the MIN Wage in NY was $7.25/hr?

This man was an intruder, and presented a clear and present danger, not only to those in the consulate, but to anyone in the vicinity Your claims have no bearing on the story - the details will come out There seems to be confusion on how it actually "went down" but if you read the China Daily article it says: 1. He was driving in a car and a MARKED Houston police car attempted to pull him over 2. He did not slow down or stop but went into the Chinese consulate garage with the police in pursuit 3. The officers then chased him into the building and placed him in handcuffs Now with this chain of events just where would the police have determined that he was a diplomat and they should not investigate the matter any further?

Actually here is what a LPR is required to do in order to stay in the USA (see page 8) http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/M-618.pdf There is a requirement to obey federal, state, and local laws. The wording says: "Permanent residents are issued a valid Permanent Resident Card (Form I-551) as proof of their legal status in the United States. Some people call this a "Green Card". If you are a permanent resident who is 18 years or older, you must carry proof of your immigrant status. You must show it to an immigration officer if asked for it." The GC is PROOF of one's legal status. One must carry PROOF of one's legal status. This would seem to imply that one must carry the GC as proof of LPR status at all time. What else would be the proof of the LPR status? Note that is does not say you must carry a COPY of PROOF. The AZ law has noting to do with LPR carrying or not carrying proof of their status. It makes it easier for local and state police to deal with any illegal immigrants they catch by not having to call and then wait for Border Security or some other jackass Fed. agency to put down a cup of coffee and stop looking at internet porn and come deal with an illegal immigration issue that they so clearly could care less about. From an Immigration Lawyer's website: http://immigrationroad.com/blog/do-i-have-...en-card-around/ Many people ask this question after becoming a permanent resident. The official answer is: Yes, you do. In fact, Form I-797 that came with your fresh new green card says: When you receive your card you must carry it with you at all times if you are 18 or older. It is the law. So there you go. The perfect answer.

I am retired also. At the K1 Interview in Dec 09, the VO made the comment that my income is low, $18,000 for 2. I have 2 houses, clear deed/title, plenty in CDs at bank, rental income, but did not impress the VO. I have filed I-130 this time,April, so I will go with the co-sponsor just to try to avoid any problems. Good Luck,,,,,Bob,,,,,, Good luck guys... My wife just saw a woman get a blue slip at her interview because her Vietnam vet husband's taxfree $3,990 monthly income from the VA and SSDI didn't measure up. The blue slip stated one thing...he needed a co-sponsor. Looks like the DOS doesn't even trust the rest of the American government. Wonders never cease when dealing with the visa thugs in Guano. I may well wind up living in China, having a bank send over my VA and SSDI money... IF damn near $48,000 taxfree paid for by Uncle Scam ain't enough money then my fifty something thousand probably ain't gonna be either. tsap seui Well Tsap it also depends on how many people are in his household. If it was just him and his wife than $48,000 tax free seems good. If he has others living in the household then it is a different story..

Well the first thing of interest in how this plays out is that some people decided they can divorce and get around the law ... http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-04...ent_9798238.htm

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2010-05...ent_9800107.htm China Daily write-up of the event. They way they wrote it up it sounds like he never even stopped the car and just tried to get into the garage. However they don't talk about beating, major injuries, etc. Seems rather tame.

Because it is a Federal law that a legal permanent resident carry their documentation of this at ALL times. Same in China.

her income (retirement) will continue, but she's living in china....she's interviewing in guangzhou. So then she qualifies under the second "way": The intending immigrant is the sponsor's spouse and the intending immigrant can show that his or her income will continue from the same source after acquisition of permanent residence. This is a tricky one, I would suspect the consulate may have problems with this, if income is an issue, I would be getting a good joint sponsor in the USA. If their two incomes together are high enough AND they can prove it will continue with some translated documentation then I don't see an issue. The instructions are fairly clear but it they are still, say less than 200% of poverty, then yes a joint sponsor would be a good backup plan.