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You will probably get arrested. However if you were a Nigerian passport holder with a bomb in your pants you are free to go (unless you try to light the bomb then even the morons can realize they should arrest you).

can't add anything to this; can only agree. I also moved from warm weather in USA to cold weather/big city (first time for both for me) in China. I did not like it and could only survive cold weather because my wife's family is in south china so I get to take some breaks from the winter and see family (two birds with one stone). I still can not get used to the big city. I can imagine your wife will have a hard time to adjust to such a big change in weather and population density. You will have to be patience and understanding with her plus compromise (like moving if she really cannot adjust).

It depends where you are and different states have different rules. I just arrived in the States for less than a month, and I was told (by the SSN officer)that I could not get a SSN before I get married. So me and my fiance went to city hall to get married first and he will pick up the marriage license next week on Tus. It is true that some states, but only a minority, require a SSN to get a marriage license. However this is the first time I ever heard you had to get married to get a SSN???!!! I think they may have meant you needed to have at least applied for AOS first before applying for the SSN but even this is not true.

Ours was complete at NVC on 10.15. 2009 and we interviewed on 02.08.2010. However I waited for two months before sending in the documents needed to schedule the interview. From the day we submitted the P3 package to NVC to the interview date was 1.5 months using electronic processing.

However the K-3 case is now closed by NVC if the I-129F and I-130 petitions are approved and send to NVC at the same time. Based on what we have seen lately in almost every case the two petitions are approved together so the chances of actually getting a K3 Visa are slim to none now. I would not waste the time nor the original documents to apply for a K3 Visa but rather just go for the CR-1 using electronic processing.

No one can answer this question 100%. I can tell you my wife met a woman during her interview that was granted a CR-1 visa even though she had met and married her husband on the first visit to China and he NEVER came back to visit her in China during the waiting period nor did he attend the interview in China.

Wow..I cannot imagine how going through that must have felt.

Sorry. The last time I went back to the States was May 2009. I found this on the internet (because I too could not find the flight from Shanghai on the Delta site). http://www.chinaeconomicreview.com/china-e...ai_flights.html Delta said travelers going from Atlanta to Shanghai would be routed on nonstop SkyTeam alliance flights or through Detroit and Tokyo-Narita, hubs Delta entered through its merger with Northwest Airlines last October. Lani Wong, chair of the National Association of Chinese-Americans, called the news 'devastating' because of all the hard work that went into attracting the Shanghai flight. Ms. Wong, whose organization often hosts Chinese delegates in Atlanta, noted that the Delta flight was nearly full when she returned from Shanghai on May 29. So now you have to take the flight through Tokyo. Tokyo is a nice airport. Should not be a problem. The price is also much cheaper than the direct flight to Shanghai. I saw it was about 3800 RMB round trip. But Delta fought like hell for this Shanghai flight (I even participated in their letter campaign to Congress to get this flight because from the southeast it is hell trying to fly to china). Then they shut it down when they merge with Northwest.

Delta has a direct flight from Shanghai to Atlanta everyday. I have flown it several times. The service is excellent. It is usually $800-1200 for a round trip ticket. Try vayama.com. They have AA flight from Shaghai to Chicago and then Chicago to Atlanta for $769 roundtrip.

Yea same here in Qingdao but also 3 inches of snow. Looks so warm in Yulin ..

And thus ladies and gentlemen of the court, I rest my case regarding the significant difference between the USA and Chinese view of a baby's birth. Thanks Jin! Ditto!! My Yu was telling me about a Chinese mother's month of confinement a while ago. She was amazed by my sister and sister-in-law having babies and being out of the hospital withing a couple of days and being up and doing things the day or so after that. Last month a girl that we see often in a local diner gave birth to twins and brought them to the diner perhaps two days after for friends to see. I guess western women are tougher in this aspect of life, they can give birth and be back to work at home the next day. If I were in this situation I would consider immigrating to the USA after having the child, unless you have aspirations of the Child one day becoming the President of the USA. I don't think I would say that. I think it is more that we forgot how important it is for a woman to rest after giving birth to a baby because of (1) need for two income families to buy all the toys we want and (2) insurance kicks you out after birth..

Yea will that goes to show what a weather forecast can do for you ... it is snowing in here in Qingdao as I type. The whole northeast of China is in a snow blizzard right now.. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-02...ent_9459160.htm

And what have we done with the other 9 incidents involving US citizens and US companies....??? We should have castrated them!!! It ain't no deterrent but it sure does make everyone else feel good. (It does me).

And what have we done with the other 9 incidents involving US citizens and US companies....???

Top ten 2009 food safety stories from food safety news. http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/ho...amp;newsLang=en

Old news .. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2009-08/...ent_8563026.htm Seems that cut some slack with the 5-year sentence: According to the Criminal Law, the heaviest punishment for subversion is life in jail.

At least they don't need lawsuit tort reform in China. $0.30 for a bug in your Sprite. Would probably be at least $1.50 for actual damages and $2.3 million for mental anguish and emotional distress from a USA jury. And heaven forbid they also found some mercury (alleged) in Sprite too. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2010...ent_9429513.htm http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC100204...-tainted-Sprite

It would be helpful to know why you got the white sheet for the K1 and what you think are your possible "red flags". Then the members here can give you lots of advice from their experience and information resources. You have gotten this far on your own. IMO hiring a lawyer at this point will not provide you with any extra help. However having a 1-time consultation visit providing the above information to him and asking for suggestions may (or may not be helpful). I would start off by seeing what input you get here and then decide for yourself later.

You're using a lot of breath here to "not say" something. Update from the DOS on 02.01.2010: How will the Department of State process my K-3 visa petition? Important Notice: Effective February 1st, 2010, when both the I-129F petition for a nonimmigrant K visa and the I-130 petition for an IR-1 (or CR-1) spouse of a U.S. citizen visa have been approved by USCIS and sent to the National Visa Center (NVC), the availability as well as the need for a nonimmigrant K-3 visa ends. If the NVC receives both petitions: The nonimmigrant K visa will be administratively closed. The application process explained below will not be applicable and cannot be used. The NVC will contact the petitioner and you with instructions for processing your IR-1 (or CR-1) immigrant visa. For more information on the immigrant visa process review the Immigrant Visa for a Spouse webpage. http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...pes_2993.html#4

Yeah, all we know for sure is that on July 22, 2002, the rules changed, requiring the security clearance to be completed and back in GZ prior to the issuance of the visa. And when I look back on the domino effect of that one change, the term Black Hole seems so appropriate. The worse part Robert, and you and all of us who went through it know, was the total lack of credible information. For those who weren't around back in those days of horror and woe, don't know what fun you missed. The rule change required the FBI to complete the background check and send it back to GZ prior to the issuance of the visa. Only problem was, somebody forgot to tell the FBI. As a result, most of our cases sat around on various FBI desks for months. What's worse, there was a 90 day window and, if the check was not completed, it had to be resubmitted. Ours was resubmitted at least twice, maybe three times. By the time they got to the second one, the first one had timed out. I could go on and on. Li's visa was approved on August 20, 2002 and they said we could get it in "around 30 days." We picked up our visa, finally, on March 10, 2003. And that was after waiting almost a year, just for the initial interview. Those were, indeed, the days my friend, we thought they'd never end....we'd sing and dance, forever and a day.... I thought this was the result of The Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act signed into law on May 14th, 2002. In the immediate aftermath of this law it was clearly documented by many universities and research organizations that the student visa issuance for students from China and India was severely slowed down due to background checks and delays.

All I can say is wow .... if she actually took the time to read the White Books she would see that it is EXACTLY what she said you needed according to their own webpage. Note: If any of the documents listed are not written in English, the document must be translated and certified by the translator. A number of translation services are listed in the yellow pages. She is probably having a problem because the certified translator is a Chinese government offical and not from the "yellow pages". You should go back and just ask for a supervisor and show them that the White Booklet you are providing more than meets the intent of their instructions -- see this link: http://shenyang.usembassy-china.org.cn/civ...ords_china.html http://www.bedfordny.info/html/d_town_clerk.html

And thus ladies and gentlemen of the court, I rest my case regarding the significant difference between the USA and Chinese view of a baby's birth. Thanks Jin!

You know I think things like this are common in China. Take for example birthdays. I have one day that is the SAME on my birth certificate, my DL, and verbal discussion with my mother. My wife, on the other hand, has the actual day she was born on the Western solar calendar (WSC) . Then she has the WSC date that is listed in her birth certificate documenation that we used for her I-130 application. Lastly we have the Chinese Lunar calendar (CLC) date that her family calls her up on and wishes her a happy birthday. We agreed early on to use her actual WSC date since it was 2 days from my date and we could celebrate together. Ok...good now I only have to remember 1 date. Not so fast Kemosabe!!!! This year on the other two dates she asked me why I don't give her the birthday treatment she is due. I said because you had your birthday already. She said but yes these days are also my birthday. I said ok does that mean you are also 3 times older than your stated age? She said NOTHING. I said Ahhh ... not again with the mop slaps ... Got to love a chinese woman.

OK. I did not want to add another topic (and use up bandwidth/space) with our interview results. However the topic is now "screwing" up other threads so I thought I would post it all here. We received a very easy PINK on Feb. 08, 2010. I will post some specifics later and some other cases I learned about/saw while waiting for my wife in the coffee shop. Thanks for everyone's help and information during the long process. My only complaint is that CFL should have found me BEFORE I pissed away the money on the lawyer ---

The bottom line on that discussion was that it IS possible to legitimately acquire two passports through citizenship by birth (one American, one Chinese parent), but that China does not recognize dual citizenship at any age. Once the child uses his/her American passport in China, then the Chinese citizenship would be revoked (legally, if not in actuality). It looks to me, though, that a child born in the US could keep both citizenships by never using the Chinese passport, but that this would be of little to no benefit. If the child is born in China, he/she would need an exit visa in the American passport - thereby alerting the Chinese authorities that he has one. Today it may be of no benefit to having the Chinese benefit. Tomorrow maybe quite a different story for a baby born today. If we have a baby my wife would either: (1) Have it in HK because a HK passport allows much greater freedom for the Chinese native or (2) Have it in the USA in order to get both passports just like you said and save the Chinese one for the future.