Michael & Susan

My Fianc¨¦e passed her interview this last Monday Nov 9, we just confirmed with China Post and passport/visa ready for pickup! The VO was a young Chinese woman. She asked Susan 6 questions and then looked at our pictures for a few minutes and said congratulations you are approved! The questions: How did you meet? When did you meet in person? What does your fianc¨¦ do? Why did you divorce? When did you get pregnant? How many months? Can I see your pictures? She didn¡¯t look at any additional evidence, including my passport to see the 6 trips to visit Susan or even my relationship letter that I spent so much time preparing. Susan offered them to the VO and she said she didn¡¯t need them. I went to both ACH and ACS where I got my relationship letter notarized. At ACH I explained our many red flags which included Susan finalizing her divorce soon after meeting online and her being pregnant. We stayed at the TianYu Garden, Mr. Yang's apartments in GUZ Building, which I highly recommend. Yang¡¯s wife was very helpful in reviewing all our paperwork and gave us a few suggestions. Mr. Yang graciously took us to Susan¡¯s medical exam and picked up the results the next day. Their apartments are clean and comfortable (the bed was softer than most hotels we stayed at) and the kitchen was a plus since we stayed there longer than most to attend ACH the Monday before Susan¡¯s Interview. Thanks to everyone for their advice and answering my many PM messages. The CFL members and wealth of information on CFL greatly helped me through the whole process.

Correction, my finacee just told me they still wanted the Chinese form she filled out. See this related topic. http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37281

Actually the DS-156 can be filled out online in English and after the from is printed you fill out Items 6, 7, 8, 9, 15, 18, 20 manually in Chinese. http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/vi...ation_form.html

What threw me was the notarized documents having her parents address, but after doing some more checking I found out it needs to match the information in her household book were she is registered. I also verified that our notary office is affiliated with the government so it sounds like everything should be ok. Just like yours our documents came in a white book that is pressure sealed and ink stamped with her picture inside with both English and Chinese translations, accompanied with a statement certifying the accuracy of the documents.

I have some questions regarding the P3 packet documents my fianc¨¦e is to obtain as listed in Form 169 and whether the documents she obtained will be accepted by the consulate. Unobtainable birth certificates ¨C As my fianc¨¦e was born at home she obtained a statement of her birth giving the date and location and the names of her parents from her parent¡¯s village official. This statement was stamped by village official apparently authorized to administer such affirmations. Police Certificate ¨C My fianc¨¦e created her own document based on information from the 001 website which she then took to the Police authorities to certify. They in turn stamped the document after verifying that she has no record. Unmarried Certificate ¨C My fianc¨¦e created her own document, again based on information from the 001 website, which she then took to the local marriage registry office. Unfortunately they would not certify it. They told her that she needed to take it to a notary public which would give her an official notarized statement. Translations ¨C She took the certificates to a local notary public office, which provided their own Chinese version of the original document plus an English translation certified by a notary public to the accuracy of the translation. Each was placed in a folder containing their Chinese version of the original certificate, the English translation and a document certifying the accuracy stamped by the notary. The notary told my fianc¨¦e that the original certificates she obtained from the police and the village official would not be needed by the consulate and that they would accept theirs. The concern I have is that after inspecting the English translations I noticed the address where they indicate she resides is actually her parent¡¯s address not the address of her apartment. When I questioned her about this she and the notary stated that it was correct because it is supposed to match the address in her family¡¯s house book since she has lived in her apartment for less than five years. Questions: 1. Will the consulate accept the unmarried certificate provided by the notary? 2. Will the consulate accept the notarized police, birth and unmarried certificates that state her residence as her parents address? 3. Will the consulate accept the notary¡¯s version of the original Chinese certificates or should she also take the original certificates? Thanks

I hope that¡¯s not the case. I can¡¯t image being charged for a duplicate when they never sent the first NOA2 due to an error on their part. Did you change addresses between NOA1 and NOA2?? If so this can explain why you may have not received it. USCIS marks mail "Return Service Requested" So if you move it wont be forwarded. You will need it for AOS http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485instr.pdf (page 5 #15 B ) Indicates this. I didn't move. The USCIS officer had somehow forgotten to scan my petition upon completing his review. The person I spoke to said the notice is automatically sent when he scans it.

I hope that¡¯s not the case. I can¡¯t image being charged for a duplicate when they never sent the first NOA2 due to an error on their part.

Good point - thanks for the advice.

Yes, she told me we would need it for AOS. She said we would be able to obtain NOA2 upon our return to the US since GUZ returns the petition to us. I just wanted to make sure we wouldn¡¯t run into any problems at the interview.

About a week ago I received a letter from NVC stating my approved I-129F petition had been received and within a week the petition would be forwarded to the appropriate visa-issuing post. Thinking the NOA2 was in the mail I waited to call USCIS until today to inquire into the whereabouts of the NOA2. The nice lady on the phone informed me that the officer had somehow forgotten to scan my petition upon the completion of his review. She called NVC only to find out that our petition had already been forwarded to GUZ and told me that she couldn¡¯t issue a NOA2 without a scan of the approval form that the USCIS officer signed. She added that if she inquired about obtaining a scan of the form she needed it might cause a delay of our case at the consulate so she recommend not pursuing it. I am wondering if not having a NOA2 will cause any problems at GUZ when my fianc¨¦e goes to the interview.

Sorry for the late reply. I just got back from another trip to China to visit my fiancee. I now have a certified copy of my divorce decree and getting everything finalized to file my petition this week. Thanks for all you help.

Can anyone tell me for California whether the ¡°Notice of Entry of Judgment¡± or the ¡°Judgment¡± is submitted with my K1 fianc¨¦e petition? Both show the date of the dissolution of the marriage and official court stamp/signatures but the Judgment also includes 11 pages of the settlement details between my ex and myself, which I would rather not include. Thanks for your help

That's strange you say that. Our chats were the focus of our second interview as this was the majority of our communications. The VO specifically asked to see our chat logs and chats and then OKed the visa. My situation with a recent divorce was that of the OP but we were denied our K1. My then fiancee was asked about our communication during our K1 and she answered wrong. If I may ask, how did she answer wrong? I'm just trying to prepare as best we can.

In regard to chat sessions it seems that in Yahoo messenger I can only print the first page of each session even though it is several pages long. (Does anyone know how to get around this?) This is why I was wondering if a page of one session per week is sufficient. Yes, we discussed marriage and decided to get engaged before my divorce was final as I had been legally separated from my ex for over a year and a half and I didn¡¯t know how much longer the divorce would drag on. I wanted my fiancee to know I was serious about our relationship. Fortunately my ex and I finally came to an agreement but it still took another 3 months. Thanks all for your advice and suggestions Go to the chat session in the archive, click message and then click save. This will save the the complete chat session in notepad form. From there you can print the entire conversation. Thanks that works great.

In regard to chat sessions it seems that in Yahoo messenger I can only print the first page of each session even though it is several pages long. (Does anyone know how to get around this?) This is why I was wondering if a page of one session per week is sufficient. Yes, we discussed marriage and decided to get engaged before my divorce was final as I had been legally separated from my ex for over a year and a half and I didn¡¯t know how much longer the divorce would drag on. I wanted my fiancee to know I was serious about our relationship. Fortunately my ex and I finally came to an agreement but it still took another 3 months. Thanks all for your advice and suggestions