Guest David Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Guangzhou responded to an email I sent them last week. Text of email I received today (Monday, Jan. 13th): >Dear Mr. S:>>We'll resubmit eagle for Ms. C today.>>Immigrant Visa Unit 1) I thought they resubmitted everything on the 10th. Did they just send this email late, did they not finish on the 10th, or was my case lost untill I brought it to their attention? 2) Why does it say "eagle"?? This is a visa type... does it apply to my wife? They ARE talking about namechecks, right? I hope something hasn't been screwed up. Link to comment
Charlotte Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 You should reply to ask about "eagle". Did they watch Eagle's game, last Sat? Link to comment
Marc Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Hi David, Visa Eagle is the type of namecheck required for K applicants from China. Here is part of a telegram that Powell sent to various consulates in September. Unfortunately most interesting parts of the telegram are still classified. I can send you what I have if you PM me. Marc-------------------------------------------------II. Non-official travel Visas Eagle name check requestsVisas Eagle telegrams must be submitted for the followingpersons:(1) K nonimmigrant visa applicants;(2) immigrant visa applicants; and(3) applicants for refugee status. These cases may be brought to conclusion 10 working daysafter submission of the Visas Eagle telegram unlessotherwise advised by the Department. Visas Eagle Mantis(applies to posts in China only) A Visas Eagle Mantis telegram must be submitted onChinese applicants (only when applying at a China post) whoare coming to study (other than undergraduate studentsunder 30 years of age), teach, conduct research, engage incommercial activity, participate in an exchange program,attend meetings or conferences, or be temporarily employedor trained in a scientific or technical field on theTechnology Alert List. Visas Donkey Mantis (applies to all other posts) A Visas Donkey Mantis telegram must be submitted onChinese applicants (when applying outside of China) whoare coming to study (other than undergraduate studentsunder 30 years of age), teach, conduct research, engage incommercial activity, participate in an exchange program,attend meetings or conferences, or be temporarily employedor trained in a scientific or technical field on theTechnology Alert List. The Department's response isrequired prior to issuance. Link to comment
Guest David Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Got it.. Eagle is a security clearance type. I still wonder why it was on the 13th? I wish I could understand why spouses always have to be the slowest/last... well, a few days later than the rest of you is better than never! Link to comment
markimwaiting Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 I cant keep up with all this praying mantis, eager donkey stuff.hehehehehehe Link to comment
Guest David Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Dang Mark, have you been celebrating early? Link to comment
wgraffiks Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 I cant keep up with all this praying mantis, eager donkey stuff.heheheheheheHey, Jasmine told me she was a Horse! Now, what category would THAT put her in? A praying donkey? (I'm a pig, myself, but I didn't understand when she told me that, because I keep the house fairly clean! Bill Link to comment
owenkrout Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 I am not sure why it says that they resubmitted on the 13th, but it does concern me. I was told that everyone needing it had been resubmitted when I called on the 10th. A couple of other e-mail replies from GZ have contained little references that have also concerned me. It does sound like most of these e-mails are being written by the Chinese staff, judging by the grammer and word choice. (You get good at spotting that after you have taught here awhile) That could mean that they are not saying what they really mean because of the problems of communicating in a second language. It also could mean that they are saying what they think you want to hear. (A common cultural trait) What really worries me is that it could mean that they are as confused about the process as we are, or even worse. Link to comment
Charlotte Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 I am not sure why it says that they resubmitted on the 13th, but it does concern me. I was told that everyone needing it had been resubmitted when I called on the 10th. A couple of other e-mail replies from GZ have contained little references that have also concerned me. It does sound like most of these e-mails are being written by the Chinese staff, judging by the grammer and word choice. (You get good at spotting that after you have taught here awhile) That could mean that they are not saying what they really mean because of the problems of communicating in a second language. It also could mean that they are saying what they think you want to hear. (A common cultural trait) What really worries me is that it could mean that they are as confused about the process as we are, or even worse.FYI: I think the email states the correct resubmission date!!!DOS computer shows my daughter's case was resubmitted on Jan 13 also by GZ staff. How do we make of that? Obviously, they did not finish as promised. From my conversation with Katherine at CA, I got the impression that they would work on some programming (working on it) to get all the necessary resubmittion done. I could be wrong, but they definitely did not finish by 1/10. Link to comment
owenkrout Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Of course, as disorganized as they seem to be, they may have discovered some more that they had missed and entered them on the 13th. When I first talked to Cabral on the 10th she said that my wife's case number did not show as resubmitted. But later when she e-mailed me, the e-mail said that her name had been resubmitted. Since she had told me that they expected to have all names resubmitted that day and that a resubmit by DOS might not show up in the computer, I just assumed that the name popped up on the computer a little later. I am starting to get discouraged about GZ's abilities here again. I just hope that they are not screwing things up again. Link to comment
Mick Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Gadzooks Batman! I think you're right Owen. Could be trouble in Gotham (GZ) again. I sent them an e-mail ten days ago, asking for info about resubmission. As of yet, no reply. Hopefully we don't have to, as you recently put it, storm the ramparts. Just in case, keep your lance ready and your sword unsheathed. Link to comment
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