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Is ACH (Petitioner Hour) Mondays at 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock. Seem to find conflicting information on GUZs website. From the info I've read on CFL it should be 3 o'clock, but I just want to make sure it hasn't changed recently. Or is it split one for immigrant visas and one for non-immigrant visas?

 

First Link says 2 o'clock (Question #5)

 

U.S. Citizen petitioners who would like general information on the Immigrant Visa process in Guangzhou may attend an information session hosted by Consular Officers on Mondays at 2:00pm. The purpose of these sessions is to address frequently asked questions and provide you with a better understanding of the process.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/iv_faqs.htm#5

 

Second Link says 3 o'clock

American Citizen Hour

 

American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants (friends, relatives, employees, etc.) to their interview. Instead, if they have general non-immigrant visa questions, they are encouraged to speak to an officer during American citizen hour, which is held each Monday afternoon from 3:00 - 4:00 PM in the NIV waiting room. Please note that specific case information cannot be shared nor can a case be pre-adjudicated.

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/citizen.html

 

 

Greetings: My wife has her interview on 15 June a Tuesday. I will be arriving in Guangzhou before that. So I am wondering if it is a good idea to go to ACH prior to the interview the Monday before? If I did go, what are some good things to point out to the VO about our case?

  • Should I inform them that I am there supporting her?
  • Should I inform them that she is almost 5 months pregnant with our Child?
  • Should I let them know she really wants to try to have the interview in English?
  • Should I try to hand over a new EOR Letter?
  • What other possible things I could offer up that would benefit our case?
  • Oh, I should be sure that the wife has my passport to give to the VO, Correct ?
  • anything else??

 

Any all suggestions are welcome.. The nervous have started already... Leaving 12 June to be with the wife for the interview.

 

Thanks

Dan

Seattle

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Is ACH (Petitioner Hour) Mondays at 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock. Seem to find conflicting information on GUZs website. From the info I've read on CFL it should be 3 o'clock, but I just want to make sure it hasn't changed recently. Or is it split one for immigrant visas and one for non-immigrant visas?

 

First Link says 2 o'clock (Question #5)

 

U.S. Citizen petitioners who would like general information on the Immigrant Visa process in Guangzhou may attend an information session hosted by Consular Officers on Mondays at 2:00pm. The purpose of these sessions is to address frequently asked questions and provide you with a better understanding of the process.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/iv_faqs.htm#5

 

Second Link says 3 o'clock

American Citizen Hour

 

American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants (friends, relatives, employees, etc.) to their interview. Instead, if they have general non-immigrant visa questions, they are encouraged to speak to an officer during American citizen hour, which is held each Monday afternoon from 3:00 - 4:00 PM in the NIV waiting room. Please note that specific case information cannot be shared nor can a case be pre-adjudicated.

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/citizen.html

 

 

Greetings: My wife has her interview on 15 June a Tuesday. I will be arriving in Guangzhou before that. So I am wondering if it is a good idea to go to ACH prior to the interview the Monday before? If I did go, what are some good things to point out to the VO about our case?

  • Should I inform them that I am there supporting her?
  • Should I inform them that she is almost 5 months pregnant with our Child?
  • Should I let them know she really wants to try to have the interview in English?
  • Should I try to hand over a new EOR Letter?
  • What other possible things I could offer up that would benefit our case?
  • Oh, I should be sure that the wife has my passport to give to the VO, Correct ?
  • anything else??

Any all suggestions are welcome.. The nervous have started already... Leaving 12 June to be with the wife for the interview.

 

Thanks

Dan

Seattle

ACH is not for any of the above, they will not take anything from you, it is not for turning in additional documents.

 

ACH is only for asking a few questions conserning the case, simply by you being there they know you are there.

 

In my case, my wife had messed up the P4 documents so I went to ACH to get replacements, I also asked if it was necessary that both the English and Chinese copies of the DS forms be done, the consulate officer told me that doing just the English ones were fine.

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Is ACH (Petitioner Hour) Mondays at 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock. Seem to find conflicting information on GUZs website. From the info I've read on CFL it should be 3 o'clock, but I just want to make sure it hasn't changed recently. Or is it split one for immigrant visas and one for non-immigrant visas?

 

First Link says 2 o'clock (Question #5)

 

U.S. Citizen petitioners who would like general information on the Immigrant Visa process in Guangzhou may attend an information session hosted by Consular Officers on Mondays at 2:00pm. The purpose of these sessions is to address frequently asked questions and provide you with a better understanding of the process.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/iv_faqs.htm#5

 

Second Link says 3 o'clock

American Citizen Hour

 

American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants (friends, relatives, employees, etc.) to their interview. Instead, if they have general non-immigrant visa questions, they are encouraged to speak to an officer during American citizen hour, which is held each Monday afternoon from 3:00 - 4:00 PM in the NIV waiting room. Please note that specific case information cannot be shared nor can a case be pre-adjudicated.

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/citizen.html

 

 

Greetings: My wife has her interview on 15 June a Tuesday. I will be arriving in Guangzhou before that. So I am wondering if it is a good idea to go to ACH prior to the interview the Monday before? If I did go, what are some good things to point out to the VO about our case?

  • Should I inform them that I am there supporting her?
  • Should I inform them that she is almost 5 months pregnant with our Child?
  • Should I let them know she really wants to try to have the interview in English?
  • Should I try to hand over a new EOR Letter?
  • What other possible things I could offer up that would benefit our case?
  • Oh, I should be sure that the wife has my passport to give to the VO, Correct ?
  • anything else??

Any all suggestions are welcome.. The nervous have started already... Leaving 12 June to be with the wife for the interview.

 

Thanks

Dan

Seattle

 

i went in to make 2 points that i did have concerns with - the friendly junior officer not only listened patiently, but assured me that he took notes on the case computer thus made sure that the actual VO will read the notes before the interview. I was instantly relieved.

 

We then chatted a good few minutes, covering attractions and delicacy temptations in GZ, me being the last on line for ACH.

 

it's been a worthy visit - you get to see where exactly the interview will take place.

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Is ACH (Petitioner Hour) Mondays at 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock. Seem to find conflicting information on GUZs website. From the info I've read on CFL it should be 3 o'clock, but I just want to make sure it hasn't changed recently. Or is it split one for immigrant visas and one for non-immigrant visas?

 

First Link says 2 o'clock (Question #5)

 

U.S. Citizen petitioners who would like general information on the Immigrant Visa process in Guangzhou may attend an information session hosted by Consular Officers on Mondays at 2:00pm. The purpose of these sessions is to address frequently asked questions and provide you with a better understanding of the process.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/iv_faqs.htm#5

 

Second Link says 3 o'clock

American Citizen Hour

 

American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants (friends, relatives, employees, etc.) to their interview. Instead, if they have general non-immigrant visa questions, they are encouraged to speak to an officer during American citizen hour, which is held each Monday afternoon from 3:00 - 4:00 PM in the NIV waiting room. Please note that specific case information cannot be shared nor can a case be pre-adjudicated.

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/citizen.html

 

 

Greetings: My wife has her interview on 15 June a Tuesday. I will be arriving in Guangzhou before that. So I am wondering if it is a good idea to go to ACH prior to the interview the Monday before? If I did go, what are some good things to point out to the VO about our case?

  • Should I inform them that I am there supporting her?
  • Should I inform them that she is almost 5 months pregnant with our Child?
  • Should I let them know she really wants to try to have the interview in English?
  • Should I try to hand over a new EOR Letter?
  • What other possible things I could offer up that would benefit our case?
  • Oh, I should be sure that the wife has my passport to give to the VO, Correct ?
  • anything else??

Any all suggestions are welcome.. The nervous have started already... Leaving 12 June to be with the wife for the interview.

 

Thanks

Dan

Seattle

 

i went in to make 2 points that i did have concerns with - the friendly junior officer not only listened patiently, but assured me that he took notes on the case computer thus made sure that the actual VO will read the notes before the interview. I was instantly relieved.

 

We then chatted a good few minutes, covering attractions and delicacy temptations in GZ, me being the last on line for ACH.

 

it's been a worthy visit - you get to see where exactly the interview will take place.

 

 

Thanks, I believe I will attend. I also want to get my new handwritten EOR Notarized by someone in the US Consulate. Cost for Notary?? Alsi I thinki it will probably carry more weight than getting it notarized here in the States before I leave in 22 days, but who is counting.

 

Now, after reading the post before it said "American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants" So, I am assuming it is the same for Immigrant Visa Applicants too, correct ??

 

Any other last minute advice for the interview?

 

Thanks

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30 dollars to notarize something.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/no...ces_260608.html

 

No you can't go with her to her interview.

 

Personally, I don't think, judging by what the VO told me, that notarizing your letter carries much weight at all. Yes, I did it, but I wish I would have saved my money (if I had the choice, I would have done it Stateside). I completely understand if you decide to do it though. The VO told me at ACH that notarizing your EOR letter only verifies that you are the one signing it, not the validity of the content. Basically, he said that I can do it if it will help me sleep better at night - so I did. The officer who notarized my letter, did not ask me any questions about its content. ACH was nice. Again, I'm uncertain if it helped my wife, but it was good for me to see the consulate area and get a general feel for what she was going to go through. That aspect helped me relax a little. The VO himself, refused to look at any of my case specific documents so I had to get creative when asking questions. I'm not 100% certain ACH or ASC helps as much as many think, but I'm not saying it doesn't help at all. Really, I'm sure the VO's are wise to our techniques and have their own criteria to base their decisions on. At least if you do attend, you can say, I've done really all I can do, regardless whether your actions helped or not. Just set reasonable expectations of how much it will "help".

 

I would emphasize organizing all of your documents in a manner that your wife can find them quickly. Also be sure she is extremely familiar with each document and can explain them when necessary.

 

1. Can the petitioner attend the interview?

 

No. Due to space and time limitations, the Consulate cannot allow petitioners to participate in visa interviews. In certain extraordinary circumstances, where the applicant would have difficulty navigating the interview alone (typically due to age or infirmity), an escort may be permitted. These are rare exceptions.

 

 

2. Why didn’t the interviewing officer take all my documents? I had everything with me at the window!

 

Consular officers will occasionally give applicants a refusal sheet requesting that they submit documents that they brought with them to the interview. This happens because the applicant also needs to provide other information that they did not have at the interview, and the officer would prefer to review everything together at a later time, either because the applicant was having difficulty locating documents in a timely manner, or the information was in a format that cannot be stored in the Consulate (such as a large photo album).

 

 

3. Why was my interview so short? The officer only asked me a few questions.

 

Officers have access to a lot of information about each case before the applicant even comes to the window; information gathered from the interview forms only part of the evidence being considered by each officer. Due to severe time constraints, interviews must be handled expeditiously, and so officers are trained to only ask questions that they feel are directly relevant to the adjudication decision.

 

You can read about my ACH and ASC time in Guangzhou here:

 

http://uschinak1.com/forums/index.php?s=&a...st&p=526766

 

http://uschinak1.com/forums/index.php?s=&a...st&p=526944

 

More than anything else, I feel that frontloading your application helps the most. Giving your wife your passport (during her interview) does the same thing, in my opinion, as attending ACH - if your desire is simply to be recognized for your attendance. If you don't have specific concerns when attending ACH, then I wouldn't waste the VO's time. Simply going there and asking them to look over your case files to see if you missed anything isn't going to get you very far.

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Thanks, I believe I will attend. I also want to get my new handwritten EOR Notarized by someone in the US Consulate. Cost for Notary?? Alsi I thinki it will probably carry more weight than getting it notarized here in the States before I leave in 22 days, but who is counting.

 

Now, after reading the post before it said "American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants" So, I am assuming it is the same for Immigrant Visa Applicants too, correct ??

 

Any other last minute advice for the interview?

 

Thanks

FEE; $30 first doc, $20 for each additional doc.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/no...ces_260608.html

 

Better to do this in the USA BEFORE going over, the fee at a US bank is FREE!

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Thanks, I believe I will attend. I also want to get my new handwritten EOR Notarized by someone in the US Consulate. Cost for Notary?? Alsi I thinki it will probably carry more weight than getting it notarized here in the States before I leave in 22 days, but who is counting.

 

Now, after reading the post before it said "American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants" So, I am assuming it is the same for Immigrant Visa Applicants too, correct ??

 

Any other last minute advice for the interview?

 

Thanks

FEE; $30 first doc, $20 for each additional doc.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/no...ces_260608.html

 

Better to do this in the USA BEFORE going over, the fee at a US bank is FREE!

 

But..... Do you not think that having it done at the US Consulate will carry more "weight"? Addtionally, "they" will see it? Thoughts?

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Thanks, I believe I will attend. I also want to get my new handwritten EOR Notarized by someone in the US Consulate. Cost for Notary?? Alsi I thinki it will probably carry more weight than getting it notarized here in the States before I leave in 22 days, but who is counting.

 

Now, after reading the post before it said "American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants" So, I am assuming it is the same for Immigrant Visa Applicants too, correct ??

 

Any other last minute advice for the interview?

 

Thanks

FEE; $30 first doc, $20 for each additional doc.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/no...ces_260608.html

 

Better to do this in the USA BEFORE going over, the fee at a US bank is FREE!

 

But..... Do you not think that having it done at the US Consulate will carry more "weight"? Addtionally, "they" will see it? Thoughts?

 

 

I got my EOR notarized at GUZ. It was a waste of time and money.

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Thanks, I believe I will attend. I also want to get my new handwritten EOR Notarized by someone in the US Consulate. Cost for Notary?? Alsi I thinki it will probably carry more weight than getting it notarized here in the States before I leave in 22 days, but who is counting.

 

Now, after reading the post before it said "American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants" So, I am assuming it is the same for Immigrant Visa Applicants too, correct ??

 

Any other last minute advice for the interview?

 

Thanks

FEE; $30 first doc, $20 for each additional doc.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/no...ces_260608.html

 

Better to do this in the USA BEFORE going over, the fee at a US bank is FREE!

 

But..... Do you not think that having it done at the US Consulate will carry more "weight"? Addtionally, "they" will see it? Thoughts?

 

 

I got my EOR notarized at GUZ. It was a waste of time and money.

 

So, it doesn't really matter. In Reference to the EOR. When I submitted our documents to the NVC, electronically. I submitted a newly typed and notarized EOR. I have also been told that I should submit yet another one. A short handwritten one... Good idea or Not?

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Thanks, I believe I will attend. I also want to get my new handwritten EOR Notarized by someone in the US Consulate. Cost for Notary?? Alsi I thinki it will probably carry more weight than getting it notarized here in the States before I leave in 22 days, but who is counting.

 

Now, after reading the post before it said "American citizens are not permitted to accompany NIV applicants" So, I am assuming it is the same for Immigrant Visa Applicants too, correct ??

 

Any other last minute advice for the interview?

 

Thanks

FEE; $30 first doc, $20 for each additional doc.

 

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/no...ces_260608.html

 

Better to do this in the USA BEFORE going over, the fee at a US bank is FREE!

 

But..... Do you not think that having it done at the US Consulate will carry more "weight"? Addtionally, "they" will see it? Thoughts?

 

 

I got my EOR notarized at GUZ. It was a waste of time and money.

 

So, it doesn't really matter. In Reference to the EOR. When I submitted our documents to the NVC, electronically. I submitted a newly typed and notarized EOR. I have also been told that I should submit yet another one. A short handwritten one... Good idea or Not?

 

I filed I129 and did not send an EOR with the application.

My wife had an EOR at the interview but we were not asked for one.

 

GUZ will have the EOR that you sent with your application. I really doubt if they will ask for one at the interview.

 

GUZ has a tendency to request documents you have at the interview as a blue slip.

 

Edited to add: I am not implying you should not have one. Your wife should carry one at the interview.

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Mine was typed. My penmanship is atrocious, so I opted not to write one by hand. I'm not certain why it would really matter, especially if you're just rehashing the same information only in handwritten form. Also, how are you going to get it into their hands? There is absolutely no guarantee that they are going to take it at ACH, or at her interview. Are you planning on submitting it electronically? You did right in submitting your first letter with your other electronic files. At least you know (or can assume) it's already in your file.

 

But..... Do you not think that having it done at the US Consulate will carry more "weight"? Addtionally, "they" will see it? Thoughts?

 

From my own personal experiences, no. I'm assuming in my ACS post that he was matching dates. He didn't tell me that that's what he was doing. I was simply guessing from my observations 20 feet away. He may have been thinking about what he was going to eat for lunch for all I know. If I had the option to get something notarized for free, I would have taken it. When I first turned in my I-130, I submitted copies of my birth cert and SSN card, the copies were made in the US and notarized as copies of the originals (free at a bank). They wanted to see the notary's stamp, but after concluding it was legit, they happily took the notarized copies.

 

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Mine was typed. My penmanship is atrocious, so I opted not to write one by hand. I'm not certain why it would really matter, especially if you're just rehashing the same information only in handwritten form. Also, how are you going to get it into their hands? There is absolutely no guarantee that they are going to take it at ACH, or at her interview. Are you planning on submitting it electronically? You did right in submitting your first letter with your other electronic files. At least you know (or can assume) it's already in your file.

 

But..... Do you not think that having it done at the US Consulate will carry more "weight"? Addtionally, "they" will see it? Thoughts?

 

From my own personal experiences, no. I'm assuming in my ACS post that he was matching dates. He didn't tell me that that's what he was doing. I was simply guessing from my observations 20 feet away. He may have been thinking about what he was going to eat for lunch for all I know. If I had the option to get something notarized for free, I would have taken it. When I first turned in my I-130, I submitted copies of my birth cert and SSN card, the copies were made in the US and notarized as copies of the originals (free at a bank). They wanted to see the notary's stamp, but after concluding it was legit, they happily took the notarized copies.

 

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After reading, it appears that it really doesn't matter if it is notarized in the States or the US Consulate. Because I filed Electronically at the NVC, I emailed them the "new" EOR that was notarized here in the states. According to the NVC, "ALL" documents emailed to the NVC were forwarded to the Consulate. So, they have the newley update, notarized (copy) EOR. The wife will have all "Orginial" documents for the interview as we have been told to do becuase we did do electronic processing.

 

Now, there has been a lot "thoughts" about the interview process. Some say that the decision has already been made even before teh interview starts, some say that the interview is a deciding factor in granting the wife her visa. Any further thoughts? I guess because of the "horror stories" coming out of Guangzhou, my nerves are getting the best of me already. We have every possible document I can think of and more. Evidence, going back to nearly day one. I could make a list, but I'd probably bore everyone. But Maybe I will just as a double check from those who have been there. Any issues If I submit my list for "review" from those in the know ???

 

Dan

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Mine was typed. My penmanship is atrocious, so I opted not to write one by hand. I'm not certain why it would really matter, especially if you're just rehashing the same information only in handwritten form. Also, how are you going to get it into their hands? There is absolutely no guarantee that they are going to take it at ACH, or at her interview. Are you planning on submitting it electronically? You did right in submitting your first letter with your other electronic files. At least you know (or can assume) it's already in your file.

 

But..... Do you not think that having it done at the US Consulate will carry more "weight"? Addtionally, "they" will see it? Thoughts?

 

From my own personal experiences, no. I'm assuming in my ACS post that he was matching dates. He didn't tell me that that's what he was doing. I was simply guessing from my observations 20 feet away. He may have been thinking about what he was going to eat for lunch for all I know. If I had the option to get something notarized for free, I would have taken it. When I first turned in my I-130, I submitted copies of my birth cert and SSN card, the copies were made in the US and notarized as copies of the originals (free at a bank). They wanted to see the notary's stamp, but after concluding it was legit, they happily took the notarized copies.

 

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After reading, it appears that it really doesn't matter if it is notarized in the States or the US Consulate. Because I filed Electronically at the NVC, I emailed them the "new" EOR that was notarized here in the states. According to the NVC, "ALL" documents emailed to the NVC were forwarded to the Consulate. So, they have the newley update, notarized (copy) EOR. The wife will have all "Orginial" documents for the interview as we have been told to do becuase we did do electronic processing.

 

Now, there has been a lot "thoughts" about the interview process. Some say that the decision has already been made even before teh interview starts, some say that the interview is a deciding factor in granting the wife her visa. Any further thoughts? I guess because of the "horror stories" coming out of Guangzhou, my nerves are getting the best of me already. We have every possible document I can think of and more. Evidence, going back to nearly day one. I could make a list, but I'd probably bore everyone. But Maybe I will just as a double check from those who have been there. Any issues If I submit my list for "review" from those in the know ???

 

Dan

 

 

Heres my 2 cents on our interview process.

 

I went to ACH because of a couple of red flags and the VO told me how to handle that.

I am fairly certain that going to ACH was a big factor in our pink.

At the interview Fen was asked about 3 questions, photos and emails. Thats it.

All questions were asked in Chinese and only one in English.

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After reading, it appears that it really doesn't matter if it is notarized in the States or the US Consulate. Because I filed Electronically at the NVC, I emailed them the "new" EOR that was notarized here in the states. According to the NVC, "ALL" documents emailed to the NVC were forwarded to the Consulate. So, they have the newley update, notarized (copy) EOR. The wife will have all "Orginial" documents for the interview as we have been told to do becuase we did do electronic processing.

 

Now, there has been a lot "thoughts" about the interview process. Some say that the decision has already been made even before teh interview starts, some say that the interview is a deciding factor in granting the wife her visa. Any further thoughts? I guess because of the "horror stories" coming out of Guangzhou, my nerves are getting the best of me already. We have every possible document I can think of and more. Evidence, going back to nearly day one. I could make a list, but I'd probably bore everyone. But Maybe I will just as a double check from those who have been there. Any issues If I submit my list for "review" from those in the know ???

 

Dan

Note: The notary at the consulate more than likely has no connection to the IV Unit, the notary is part of the ACS unit, the VO that will interview your wife is part of the IV unit. All a notary is for is to verify that it is YOU who are signing the document. So if it is a notary in the states or at the consulate makes no difference.
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After reading, it appears that it really doesn't matter if it is notarized in the States or the US Consulate. Because I filed Electronically at the NVC, I emailed them the "new" EOR that was notarized here in the states. According to the NVC, "ALL" documents emailed to the NVC were forwarded to the Consulate. So, they have the newley update, notarized (copy) EOR. The wife will have all "Orginial" documents for the interview as we have been told to do becuase we did do electronic processing.

 

Now, there has been a lot "thoughts" about the interview process. Some say that the decision has already been made even before teh interview starts, some say that the interview is a deciding factor in granting the wife her visa. Any further thoughts? I guess because of the "horror stories" coming out of Guangzhou, my nerves are getting the best of me already. We have every possible document I can think of and more. Evidence, going back to nearly day one. I could make a list, but I'd probably bore everyone. But Maybe I will just as a double check from those who have been there. Any issues If I submit my list for "review" from those in the know ???

 

Dan

Note: The notary at the consulate more than likely has no connection to the IV Unit, the notary is part of the ACS unit, the VO that will interview your wife is part of the IV unit. All a notary is for is to verify that it is YOU who are signing the document. So if it is a notary in the states or at the consulate makes no difference.

 

 

Understand, So, I'll just get any documents notarized here in the states. I've been reading alot about the interviews that take place in The US Consulate in Guangzhou. It appears to me that there are a few areas that they concentrate on.

  • Bon Fide Relationship "Biggest one i think"
  • Financials - Missing 3 years of taxes
  • How much does the sponser make ?
  • How many times has the sponser been to China
  • Any CCP ties ?
  • incorrectly notarized documents
  • Missing forms - i.e P3 Supplements

Sound about right? I've read consulate reviews going back to January 2009, and in the past year these are the main items. Any thoughts?

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