Additional 325A needed for Daughter on Original I-129F Submission?

[screamneagle]

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is time for me to come out of the closet and jump into this form with both feet. I have been in the wings reading and gleaning information from this site for many months now but have been reluctant to join in the postings. First let me say that I would have been totally lost without the guidance that has been provided by the many caring, loving and selfless people who are involved with this wonderful website. The information, the tips, the encouragement and the experience of the members in this undertaking are priceless. I have learned so much from reading all the postings. The magnitude of the specific detailed information concerning the various visa processes, the organization of the forms, and things as trivial as knowing the size of the opening at the base of the interview windows at Guangzhou has been enormously helpful. I believe it has adequately prepared me for the journey that lies before my lady and me.

 

I have just returned from my third visit to Chengdu where I spend two beautiful weeks with my lady and her family. While there, in the company of the whole family, I respectfully ask my lady¡¯s father for his permission to marry his daughter. I did this in my broken Mandarin. After the family had a good laugh, he and his wife gave us their enthusiastic approval and permission. The next day at a formal engagement luncheon I presented Chaojian with her engagement ring. The expression of happiness on her face was something I will never forget as long as I live. This was the natural culmination of a loving relationship that began over a year ago after we had met through an agency in Chengdu.

 

Chaojian and I had been talking about marriage for a long time prior to this last trip and I have been working on the I-129F Fianc¨¦e Visa petition for many months. During this last trip I obtained her notarized books for birth proof, divorce certificate, eligibility to marry certificate, custody for her daughter certificate, husband¡¯s death certificate and you name it certificate! She also signed the I-129F and all the copies of the 325A forms. I want to emphasize that all of this would have been impossible without the guidance I obtained from this website. I would have been dead in the water instead of ready to submit my application. I would again like to express a very sincere and heartfelt thanks to all of you!

 

As I said, I am about ready to make the original submission of my I-129F in conjunction with the K-1 visa petition but two last minute wrenches have been thrown into the works. I have email Guangzhou with these questions two weeks ago and still have not received an answer. When I was in Chengdu last week, I went to the American consulate there ¡­ completely useless. I did not see a single American while I was in there and the person I was dealing with called both Guangzhou and Beijing and got two different answers from each place. So now I would like to turn to you ¡­ my brothers and sisters.

 

Here is the situation. I was told by the matchmaking agency in Chengdu that I needed to submit and additional 325A with photo for my wife¡¯s 19 year old daughter who will be accompanying her mother to the U.S. in conjunction with obtaining a K-2 visa. I was under the impression that all I had to do was place the daughter¡¯s name and information in the appropriate box on the I-129F in order for her to obtain this visa. Also, it does not state this in the application instructions. Can anyone clarify this point?

 

Secondly, will the daughter have the same interview date as the mother and will she be able to travel with her mother to the U.S. or does she have to come at a later date?

 

Lastly, I only discovered yesterday that my lady¡¯s older cousin is a member of the CCP. He has been a member since 1997. Is this going to cause any kind of a red flag problem? Should it be addressed on a separate sheet and submitted along with the I-129F package?

 

I have read through the forum and did not see any of these three issues addressed. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. I apologize for the length of this first posting. It is a heck of a baptism of fire. I shall look forward to hearing from you soon, I remain,

Sincerely,

 

Richard

screameagle

[dnoblett]

Welcome to the board.

 

You are doing a K-1/K-2,

 

K-1 will need Evidence free to marry (Death Cert (Photo copy of it) keep the original, and if you were married before a Divorce cert from you).

 

Only Two G-325A, one from you and one from fiancee, child does not need one.

 

K-2 daughter will interview at the same time as K-1 fiancee, unless you wish the child to follow later.

 

Having a relative that is/was in CCP is NOT an issue, only if fiancee is/was in CCP is an issue, but is easily overcome.

 

Cert of marriageability is needed at time of interview, not when filing the petition, but you can send a photo copy if it in with the I-129F

 

Note you are filing this to USCIS not the consulate, so the consulate will have limited information about filing, they are concerned with the interview stage.

 

A good K-1 application guide: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1guide

[HongKong2LA]

Welcome to the board and congrats on your happiness.

 

I'm filing CR-1 and CR-2 so there are differences in the process from your K1, K2 filing. That said there are some similarities too. From what I understand though, since the daughter is over 18, the K filing is the only way she will be able to accompany her mom the the USA. Others will correct me if this is wrong. There are others on the board that are doing what you are, so you will get good advice here. I didn't need to file a G325a for my daughter, but she is under 18, so not sure about that. If you paid an agency to be introduced, you may have some IMBRA (International Marriage Broker) issues, again not sure what they might be, I'm just trying to identify areas you may need to address over the course of your visa journey.

 

The CCP family member is not an issue, I think every family in China probably has some members. Like Dan said, only an issue if your fiance was a membber and that has been overcome many times.

 

Your initial filing is with USCIS, so the consulate won't have muuch info regarding that, again like Dan said, you'll only deal with the consulate at the interview stage.

 

Good luck and keep reading, it's only just begun.

[screamneagle]

Welcome to the board and congrats on your happiness.

 

I'm filing CR-1 and CR-2 so there are differences in the process from your K1, K2 filing. That said there are some similarities too. From what I understand though, since the daughter is over 18, the K filing is the only way she will be able to accompany her mom the the USA. Others will correct me if this is wrong. There are others on the board that are doing what you are, so you will get good advice here. I didn't need to file a G325a for my daughter, but she is under 18, so not sure about that. If you paid an agency to be introduced, you may have some IMBRA (International Marriage Broker) issues, again not sure what they might be, I'm just trying to identify areas you may need to address over the course of your visa journey.

 

The CCP family member is not an issue, I think every family in China probably has some members. Like Dan said, only an issue if your fiance was a membber and that has been overcome many times.

 

Your initial filing is with USCIS, so the consulate won't have muuch info regarding that, again like Dan said, you'll only deal with the consulate at the interview stage.

 

Good luck and keep reading, it's only just begun.

Thank you dnoblett and HongKong2LA! I have read many of your posts and you gentlemen seem to be right on the mark. The info concerning the CCP membership of my lady's cousin is most welcome. He is a really nice guy and I never even thought to ask. Politics never came up and that is the way it should be. She was never a CCP member.

 

I did not pay the marriage broker but I believe that my lady did. I have included all the appropriate information in a supplemental sheet to I-129F Part B, question 19.

 

I have both my lady's certificate of eligibility to marry and her divorce certificate in hand. I also made sure to bring back 4 signed 325a forms for her daughter along with the photo just in case. Better safe than sorry! I've read too many horror stories on this site and I want to be prepared for all eventualities. dnoblett's info on the certificate of marriageability is very helpful and I will be sure to send a copy along with the I-129F.

 

I know the interview is miles down the road but we are already preparing for it.

Edited March 10, 2010 by screamneagle (see edit history)

[dnoblett]

Thank you dnoblett and HongKong2LA! I have read many of your posts and you gentlemen seem to be right on the mark. The info concerning the CCP membership of my lady's cousin is most welcome. He is a really nice guy and I never even thought to ask. Politics never came up and that is the way it should be. She was never a CCP member.

 

I did not pay the marriage broker but I believe that my lady did. I have included all the appropriate information in a supplemental sheet to I-129F Part B, question 19.

 

I have both my lady's certificate of eligibility to marry and her divorce certificate in hand. I also made sure to bring back 4 signed 325a forms for her daughter along with the photo just in case. Better safe than sorry! I've read too many horror stories on this site and I want to be prepared for all eventualities. dnoblett's info on the certificate of marriageability is very helpful and I will be sure to send a copy along with the I-129F.

 

I know the interview is miles down the road but we are already preparing for it.

The question about IMBRA was the Broker involved in you and your fiancee meeting? In my case I got a "admirer" message from CHN-Love which is a broker, however I later spotted my wife on Cherry Blossoms which is NOT an IMB. My wife had paid CHN-Love for posting there, but we did not note anything about the IMB since the IMB was NOT involved in our meeting on line. I believe if YOU paid and used the service of an IMB to find your fiancee then YOU list this.

 

As for G-325A, last summer USCIS reduced that form to just one page, it is no longer a special 4 part form with 4 DIFFERENT pages, so only one page is needed. SEE: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-325a.pdf

[screamneagle]

Thank you dnoblett and HongKong2LA! I have read many of your posts and you gentlemen seem to be right on the mark. The info concerning the CCP membership of my lady's cousin is most welcome. He is a really nice guy and I never even thought to ask. Politics never came up and that is the way it should be. She was never a CCP member.

 

I did not pay the marriage broker but I believe that my lady did. I have included all the appropriate information in a supplemental sheet to I-129F Part B, question 19.

 

I have both my lady's certificate of eligibility to marry and her divorce certificate in hand. I also made sure to bring back 4 signed 325a forms for her daughter along with the photo just in case. Better safe than sorry! I've read too many horror stories on this site and I want to be prepared for all eventualities. dnoblett's info on the certificate of marriageability is very helpful and I will be sure to send a copy along with the I-129F.

 

I know the interview is miles down the road but we are already preparing for it.

The question about IMBRA was the Broker involved in you and your fiancee meeting? In my case I got a "admirer" message from CHN-Love which is a broker, however I later spotted my wife on Cherry Blossoms which is NOT an IMB. My wife had paid CHN-Love for posting there, but we did not note anything about the IMB since the IMB was NOT involved in our meeting on line. I believe if YOU paid and used the service of an IMB to find your fiancee then YOU list this.

 

As for G-325A, last summer USCIS reduced that form to just one page, it is no longer a special 4 part form with 4 DIFFERENT pages, so only one page is needed. SEE: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-325a.pdf

I saw my lady's profile on the CHN-Love website and sent a "cupid note". She replied positively and our relationship began from that point. As I mentioned, I have not paid the agency anything and they have not requested it from me. However, I recall my lady mentioning that she had to pay to get her profile on the website and also had to pay when I went to visit her the first time. She said she had signed a contract with them.

 

The agency told me about the form reduction from 4 sheets to 1 but I didn't believe them. So now I have 4 originals. Should I include one of these for each of us with the I-129f submission instead of a copy? What's your thought?

[dnoblett]

The question about IMBRA was the Broker involved in you and your fiancee meeting? In my case I got a "admirer" message from CHN-Love which is a broker, however I later spotted my wife on Cherry Blossoms which is NOT an IMB. My wife had paid CHN-Love for posting there, but we did not note anything about the IMB since the IMB was NOT involved in our meeting on line. I believe if YOU paid and used the service of an IMB to find your fiancee then YOU list this.

 

As for G-325A, last summer USCIS reduced that form to just one page, it is no longer a special 4 part form with 4 DIFFERENT pages, so only one page is needed. SEE: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-325a.pdf

I saw my lady's profile on the CHN-Love website and sent a "cupid note". She replied positively and our relationship began from that point. As I mentioned, I have not paid the agency anything and they have not requested it from me. However, I recall my lady mentioning that she had to pay to get her profile on the website and also had to pay when I went to visit her the first time. She said she had signed a contract with them.

 

The agency told me about the form reduction from 4 sheets to 1 but I didn't believe them. So now I have 4 originals. Should I include one of these for each of us with the I-129f submission instead of a copy? What's your thought?

In this case, note CHN-Love as where you met your fiancee and leave it at that. An EOR may be included to explain how met detailing your visits etc, in this case CHN-Love was more of a dating site that an IMB, but CHN-Love has registered and they do comply with IMB rules.

 

As for G-325A send just the single page for you and fiancee, it is how the form is designed now.

 

The old G-325A literally had 4 pages that were slightly different at the bottom of the pages, in the day some would get RFE if the sent 4 copies of page one of the form.

Edited March 10, 2010 by dnoblett (see edit history)

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