got white in mail

[Guest jin979]

If you get married in Hong Kong will can interview for a K-3 visa there bypassing Guangzhou.

Once a upon a time, VO screwed Fujian people so it's pretty easy for our CFLers to get a visa. Since Fujian people switched to Europe, VO started to screw our CFLers.

 

By the time the wife of OP has her interview in Hong Kong, they may have started to screw mainland Chinese in Hong Kong!

 

 

seems very true, most/many chinese now look to immigrate to Australia, Canada and Europe as opposed to USA.

 

 

maybe GUZ tells DHS, we deny this # every year, as less chinese apply to USA, more innocents get denied so Guz can keep it denial rate the same. maybe they get bonus money who knows

or maybe there are other reasons to, but it it interesting visa denials are highest from emerging superpowers (not aligned to usa) China @ India or from the middle east.

An example look at July 2007 posters thread on VJ, Uk/europe benifiaciaries got interview in 5-6 months and present nothig in the way of evidence . on the surface there seems to very strange discrepancies between DHS policies in different countries, why ? we can speculate.

Edited February 17, 2009 by jin979 (see edit history)

[heyjimi]

Just like everyone who got a white result, I now know their pain and anger. My fiancee got the blue during the interview for a K1 visa and we submitted everything on the list. I went back to China 3 times, have thousands of pictures from many places in China, have our engagement party and wedding gown pictures taken. I have a cosponsor and gave all the financial records. Plus I am in the military right now. I am baffled and angry and wonder why, why. I have moved from the shock and now plan on going back to China and get married with my fiancee and file a CR-1. It's going to be a long wait and take a lot of effort and money. Will I get an explanation of why the VO did not approve our visa? Did the same VO who interviewed my fiancee the same VO who reviewed the stuff we sent into the U.S embassy for review? That VO was a black lady and people have warned us that she is the toughest to get a visa. Unfortunately that's who my fiancee got during the interview. If anyone can help, I have several questions in going about CR-1 instead of K3. Is it easier to get CR-1 to approve than a K3 visa? What about the documents we submitted for K1 visa, will the Custom and Immigration Service send it back to the U.S embassy in China to add to the evidence for the CR-1? What do I need to do here in the U.S before I go back to get marry and file for a CR-1? I heard I need to have my passport and a single certificate notarized in a Chinese embassy in the U.S before I can go to China to get marry, is that true? Does anyone of you know anyone who got denied of a CR-1 visa? How long is the wait for a CR-1? Can someone who got a CR-1 visa approved give me some advice on what they did that made they successful. Thank you

 

Hi,

sorry to hear the news of your denial.My wife and I have been there,and 4 months have passed now,and the anger and pain is still there,it is a feeling only people with a white slip can understand..She got denied from the black woman signed "M" , she is very brutal.My wife got denied a k3 visa in october,and we are now CR1.

forget the FOIA,it is a joke. you will get a document with everything you want to know" blacked out".your chances of finding out why you got denied is slim.Welcome to Guzland, communist america,take a deep breathe and just move forward,and pay attention to the game,because,you probably thought this was about love...it is not.....you will hear "they are only out to catch the bad guys....they are not....it is all about playing a game..so play it to the "T"...get married ,move slowly.....do either the k3 or CR1,and do what many say is "front load" your petition.thats what i would do. Yeah,to get married in China,you will need of course your passport and a "single affadavit" i don't know the exact name,i got mine done,thru "visarite"a service on the internet.Good luck.Hang in there.I know what you're feeling.the worst feeling i have ever felt in my 48 years walking this planet.Gods honest truth.Hang in there.remember,they can deny you a visa,but they can't take away the love you have for each other,stay focussed on that fact,and everything will be fine, it helps for my wife and I.good luck.

 

Jimi

"forget the FOIA,it is a joke. you will get a document with everything you want to know" blacked out".your chances of finding out why you got denied is slim."

 

Did you file an FOIA, if you did, was it blacked out?

Under the Bush administration which was just a few months ago the FOIA was heavily curtailed. Obama has lifted this curtailment, isn't it worth a try to find out. Calling "GUZ communist America" I guess is a better solution then to try and find the answer, one way or the other it is all going to take time, so why not use the time to your advantage?

 

i will give you one absurd example,just so you know what you are up against....have you ever seen the documents from the "Roswell crash" which happened what?....i believe 60 years ago....people have tried to get the official report,thru this so called "freedom of information act" they got the report alright !!!.most of it blacked out...of course the parts blacked out"top secret" "National Security" etc etc etc........(remember this event,what ever it was ,happened 60 years ago....)

Hey......the best thing to do is move forward.....I call it "Guz communist America....is because that is what you are up against...a very thick wall of secrecy...corruption.....abuse of power......Brother,i am there,i am doing everything i can,i am not talking out of my ass.I have had my congressman bilirakis,and also my Senator Mel Martinez,work on my case,even they are powerless to get to the facts.

The best thing is to move forward,and play their game.....in the end you and your girl love each other,thats all that really matters....they can deny you a visa,but they can't take your soul and your heart.

 

 

Nice post Jimi, you pretty well summed it up in a nutshell.

 

I'm leaving Friday morning to see, and marry the lil' rabbit, and to get our white slip bronzed...heavily bronzed...I want it to hurt when I shove it sideways up some DOS flunkie's ass in 2011.

 

Good luck to you white slippers.

 

tsap seui

 

Hey Tsap..

hahaha "heavily bronzed" nice !!!

Have a safe trip,good luck.... have a happy future together with the "lil' rabbit"

 

Jimi

[heyjimi]

If you get married in Hong Kong will can interview for a K-3 visa there bypassing Guangzhou.

Once a upon a time, VO screwed Fujian people so it's pretty easy for our CFLers to get a visa. Since Fujian people switched to Europe, VO started to screw our CFLers.

 

By the time the wife of OP has her interview in Hong Kong, they may have started to screw mainland Chinese in Hong Kong!

 

 

seems very true, most/many chinese now look to immigrate to Australia, Canada and Europe as opposed to USA.

 

 

maybe GUZ tells DHS, we deny this # every year, as less chinese apply to USA, more innocents get denied so Guz can keep it denial rate the same. maybe they get bonus money who knows

or maybe there are other reasons to, but it it interesting visa denials are highest from emerging superpowers (not aligned to usa) China @ India or from the middle east.

An example look at July 2007 posters thread on VJ, Uk/europe benifiaciaries got interview in 5-6 months and present nothig in the way of evidence . on the surface there seems to very strange discrepancies between DHS policies in different countries, why ? we can speculate.

 

hmmm....interesting.

nice post

 

jimi

[chilton747]

If you get married in Hong Kong will can interview for a K-3 visa there bypassing Guangzhou.

Once a upon a time, VO screwed Fujian people so it's pretty easy for our CFLers to get a visa. Since Fujian people switched to Europe, VO started to screw our CFLers.

 

By the time the wife of OP has her interview in Hong Kong, they may have started to screw mainland Chinese in Hong Kong!

 

I was just reading some of Eunice's posts and came across this. Perhaps Eunice had an inside track on HK?

[david_dawei]

If you get married in Hong Kong will can interview for a K-3 visa there bypassing Guangzhou.

Once a upon a time, VO screwed Fujian people so it's pretty easy for our CFLers to get a visa. Since Fujian people switched to Europe, VO started to screw our CFLers.

 

By the time the wife of OP has her interview in Hong Kong, they may have started to screw mainland Chinese in Hong Kong!

 

I was just reading some of Eunice's posts and came across this. Perhaps Eunice had an inside track on HK?

I actually asked her based on her prophesy... she had not heard anything

[chilton747]

If you get married in Hong Kong will can interview for a K-3 visa there bypassing Guangzhou.

Once a upon a time, VO screwed Fujian people so it's pretty easy for our CFLers to get a visa. Since Fujian people switched to Europe, VO started to screw our CFLers.

 

By the time the wife of OP has her interview in Hong Kong, they may have started to screw mainland Chinese in Hong Kong!

 

I was just reading some of Eunice's posts and came across this. Perhaps Eunice had an inside track on HK?

I actually asked her based on her prophesy... she had not heard anything

 

I figured this was her prophesy.........she is one smart and intuitive lady!

[dnoblett]

One thing I did not see in these posts was the reason for the white. If the white was for Non Bonafide relationship, then yes go ahead and marry and file for a spousal visa, more than likely USCIS will cancel the K-1 petition due to it being expired anyway. IF the reason was for some other inadmissibility this wont change and may need to be dealt with before starting a spousal visa case.

 

Also recently someone did a K-3 through HKG and ran into problems too, HKG was sensitive about the "Marriage" in HKG for the K-3 route, and also has been known to be more critical about couple sharing a common language.

 

HKG Denial: http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36140

 

Example of a white slip in the mail for inadmissibility denial.

 

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...c=23530&hl=

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...c=24312&hl=

[skydreamer1]

Just like everyone who got a white result, I now know their pain and anger. My fiancee got the blue during the interview for a K1 visa and we submitted everything on the list. I went back to China 3 times, have thousands of pictures from many places in China, have our engagement party and wedding gown pictures taken. I have a cosponsor and gave all the financial records. Plus I am in the military right now. I am baffled and angry and wonder why, why. I have moved from the shock and now plan on going back to China and get married with my fiancee and file a CR-1. It's going to be a long wait and take a lot of effort and money. Will I get an explanation of why the VO did not approve our visa? Did the same VO who interviewed my fiancee the same VO who reviewed the stuff we sent into the U.S embassy for review? That VO was a black lady and people have warned us that she is the toughest to get a visa. Unfortunately that's who my fiancee got during the interview. If anyone can help, I have several questions in going about CR-1 instead of K3. Is it easier to get CR-1 to approve than a K3 visa? What about the documents we submitted for K1 visa, will the Custom and Immigration Service send it back to the U.S embassy in China to add to the evidence for the CR-1? What do I need to do here in the U.S before I go back to get marry and file for a CR-1? I heard I need to have my passport and a single certificate notarized in a Chinese embassy in the U.S before I can go to China to get marry, is that true? Does anyone of you know anyone who got denied of a CR-1 visa? How long is the wait for a CR-1? Can someone who got a CR-1 visa approved give me some advice on what they did that made they successful. Thank you

 

 

I want to give an update on our visa journey. My wife interviewed this past week for a CR-1 and was approved. She has the visa in hand and plan on arriving here in December. I want to give thanks to all those who help us along the way. I especially want to thank: splinterman (thanks for sharing your visa experience with me, best of luck with your wife's interview), joejoefta (thanks for helping me with the electronic processing), chilton747 (thanks for your advice and support), N + W (thanks for being the first to offer support to me), mei3935 (haven't seem you post on your wife's interview result, hope she got the visa that you guys deserved), SmilingAsia (good luck on your own visa journey), heyjimi (thanks for your advice), dnoblett (thanks for your continual commitment in helping those like me who needed the help) , and Marc Ellis (thanks for your guidance in our visa) . Without you guys and this wonderful website, we would not have gotten this far. As a lot of you have experienced the injustice denial of your love one's visa, it's a mixed feelings of horror, anger, and despair. I was afraid of our K-1 denial might mean I will never be able to get my wife here, especially the how insensitive the GUZ embassy treated us the first time as all of you who have gotten denial experience knows. I was very fortunate overcame some of the possible causes of our denial and able to get approved for the visa in 6 1/2 months with the electronic process. There's is no template from the USCIS on the visa journey, but this great website has guided me along the way. I want to congratulated all of those who have gotten your love ones the visa, and offer support for those who are having difficulties in visa journey. Thanks

 

Eddie

[dnoblett]

Good to hear! Sounds like one of those BOGUS NON-Bonafide relationship denials was overturned.

 

Excellent!

[Sam and Fen]

Awesome. !

[HongKong2LA]

Congratulations!!!!

[Kyle]

Most excellent! Glad to see that everything has worked out for you.

[Rachel + Will = Together Forever]

Wow, Congratulations on finally getting the visa!!!

[splinterman]

Just like everyone who got a white result, I now know their pain and anger. My fiancee got the blue during the interview for a K1 visa and we submitted everything on the list. I went back to China 3 times, have thousands of pictures from many places in China, have our engagement party and wedding gown pictures taken. I have a cosponsor and gave all the financial records. Plus I am in the military right now. I am baffled and angry and wonder why, why. I have moved from the shock and now plan on going back to China and get married with my fiancee and file a CR-1. It's going to be a long wait and take a lot of effort and money. Will I get an explanation of why the VO did not approve our visa? Did the same VO who interviewed my fiancee the same VO who reviewed the stuff we sent into the U.S embassy for review? That VO was a black lady and people have warned us that she is the toughest to get a visa. Unfortunately that's who my fiancee got during the interview. If anyone can help, I have several questions in going about CR-1 instead of K3. Is it easier to get CR-1 to approve than a K3 visa? What about the documents we submitted for K1 visa, will the Custom and Immigration Service send it back to the U.S embassy in China to add to the evidence for the CR-1? What do I need to do here in the U.S before I go back to get marry and file for a CR-1? I heard I need to have my passport and a single certificate notarized in a Chinese embassy in the U.S before I can go to China to get marry, is that true? Does anyone of you know anyone who got denied of a CR-1 visa? How long is the wait for a CR-1? Can someone who got a CR-1 visa approved give me some advice on what they did that made they successful. Thank you

 

Hi,

sorry to hear the news of your denial.My wife and I have been there,and 4 months have passed now,and the anger and pain is still there,it is a feeling only people with a white slip can understand..She got denied from the black woman signed "M" , she is very brutal.My wife got denied a k3 visa in october,and we are now CR1.

forget the FOIA,it is a joke. you will get a document with everything you want to know" blacked out".your chances of finding out why you got denied is slim.Welcome to Guzland, communist america,take a deep breathe and just move forward,and pay attention to the game,because,you probably thought this was about love...it is not.....you will hear "they are only out to catch the bad guys....they are not....it is all about playing a game..so play it to the "T"...get married ,move slowly.....do either the k3 or CR1,and do what many say is "front load" your petition.thats what i would do. Yeah,to get married in China,you will need of course your passport and a "single affadavit" i don't know the exact name,i got mine done,thru "visarite"a service on the internet.Good luck.Hang in there.I know what you're feeling.the worst feeling i have ever felt in my 48 years walking this planet.Gods honest truth.Hang in there.remember,they can deny you a visa,but they can't take away the love you have for each other,stay focussed on that fact,and everything will be fine, it helps for my wife and I.good luck.

 

Jimi

"forget the FOIA,it is a joke. you will get a document with everything you want to know" blacked out".your chances of finding out why you got denied is slim."

 

Did you file an FOIA, if you did, was it blacked out?

Under the Bush administration which was just a few months ago the FOIA was heavily curtailed. Obama has lifted this curtailment, isn't it worth a try to find out. Calling "GUZ communist America" I guess is a better solution then to try and find the answer, one way or the other it is all going to take time, so why not use the time to your advantage?

 

 

I filed 2 FOIA's-one with the DOS and the other with USCIS. It took about a year to get the results and both of them came on the same day, about 2 weeks after I filed an I-130. What a coincidence...

 

All I got were copies of the pages of the I-129F from both organizations that I had filed for our K-1. The DOS reply had a letter that stated that they had found 136 documents related to my request but were only sending 6-the rest were refused disclosure since they do not have to disclose any information pertaining to the approval/refusal of a visa.

 

It was a total waste of time. Not a thing has changed under Obama with regards to obtaining information on why your beneficiary was denied a visa.

 

For the majority, the only way you'll find out anything is when you get that NOID/NOIR letter, IF you get it, in the mail.

[chilton747]

That is absolutely great news Eddie!! I didn't really doubt you would be successful but what an added bonus to get it so quickly!!

 

Congratulations and best wishes for a wonderful marriage!!