60 Minutes in China

[rogerluli]

What am I missing here? All this talk about enemies, and the enemies are us? People have been picking through garbage for thousands of years. As long as the world keeps producing it, then there will be people to pick through it.

Have you even watched the story Jesse? If not then your comments are ill-informed. If you have seen it then you obviously didn't understand the part of the story that angers the rest of us. So let me spell it out for you.

 

The main culprit in the story is some guy in Colorado who owns Executive Recycling. His website tries to elicit business by stating that other companies ship toxic e-waste to China where it's exposed to workers and the environment. His company, he claims on the other hand, keeps all of our toxic electronic waste right here in the good old US of A, where it is recycled legally and safely.

 

You see it's illegal to ship many types of e-waste overseas, including tvs monitors with cathode ray tubes, which contain large amounts of lead. So his claim is that his business is win-win for everybody. WE get to unload all our toys containing dangerous chemicals that cause cancer and mutations and stuff like that. HE gets to save the environment and make a little money at the same time. And CHINA is protected from more hazardous materials that otherwise would've been illegally shipped to their front door.

 

Just one little problem with our boy's claims about saving the planet. It's bullshit. Turns out that 60 Minutes tracked an overseas container filled with those lead-filled CRTs leaving his company all the way to Hong Kong. And before you bother to impugne CBS/60 Minutes integrity you should know this: Our own GAO just happened to be investigating the same company and conducted a sting that caught the guy trying to illegally sell thousands of CRTs to their decoy broker in Hong Kong.

 

So this is what most of us think makes this guy, and others like him, bad people and "enemies" of not only US consumers who are being duped into believing that our e-waste is being disposed of properly, but of poor, innocent farmers in China as well.

 

Hope this clears things up for you.

 

Dave you must have read Jesse's flip comment about 60 minutes here being the same as 60 minutes there... Why is there any need to know the facts???

[IllinoisDave]

What am I missing here? All this talk about enemies, and the enemies are us? People have been picking through garbage for thousands of years. As long as the world keeps producing it, then there will be people to pick through it.

Have you even watched the story Jesse? If not then your comments are ill-informed. If you have seen it then you obviously didn't understand the part of the story that angers the rest of us. So let me spell it out for you.

 

The main culprit in the story is some guy in Colorado who owns Executive Recycling. His website tries to elicit business by stating that other companies ship toxic e-waste to China where it's exposed to workers and the environment. His company, he claims on the other hand, keeps all of our toxic electronic waste right here in the good old US of A, where it is recycled legally and safely.

 

You see it's illegal to ship many types of e-waste overseas, including tvs monitors with cathode ray tubes, which contain large amounts of lead. So his claim is that his business is win-win for everybody. WE get to unload all our toys containing dangerous chemicals that cause cancer and mutations and stuff like that. HE gets to save the environment and make a little money at the same time. And CHINA is protected from more hazardous materials that otherwise would've been illegally shipped to their front door.

 

Just one little problem with our boy's claims about saving the planet. It's bullshit. Turns out that 60 Minutes tracked an overseas container filled with those lead-filled CRTs leaving his company all the way to Hong Kong. And before you bother to impugne CBS/60 Minutes integrity you should know this: Our own GAO just happened to be investigating the same company and conducted a sting that caught the guy trying to illegally sell thousands of CRTs to their decoy broker in Hong Kong.

 

So this is what most of us think makes this guy, and others like him, bad people and "enemies" of not only US consumers who are being duped into believing that our e-waste is being disposed of properly, but of poor, innocent farmers in China as well.

 

Hope this clears things up for you.

 

Dave you must have read Jesse's flip comment about 60 minutes here being the same as 60 minutes there... Why is there any need to know the facts???

Well I know how much of a stickler Jesse is for facts.

[rogerluli]

What am I missing here? All this talk about enemies, and the enemies are us? People have been picking through garbage for thousands of years. As long as the world keeps producing it, then there will be people to pick through it.

Have you even watched the story Jesse? If not then your comments are ill-informed. If you have seen it then you obviously didn't understand the part of the story that angers the rest of us. So let me spell it out for you.

 

The main culprit in the story is some guy in Colorado who owns Executive Recycling. His website tries to elicit business by stating that other companies ship toxic e-waste to China where it's exposed to workers and the environment. His company, he claims on the other hand, keeps all of our toxic electronic waste right here in the good old US of A, where it is recycled legally and safely.

 

You see it's illegal to ship many types of e-waste overseas, including tvs monitors with cathode ray tubes, which contain large amounts of lead. So his claim is that his business is win-win for everybody. WE get to unload all our toys containing dangerous chemicals that cause cancer and mutations and stuff like that. HE gets to save the environment and make a little money at the same time. And CHINA is protected from more hazardous materials that otherwise would've been illegally shipped to their front door.

 

Just one little problem with our boy's claims about saving the planet. It's bullshit. Turns out that 60 Minutes tracked an overseas container filled with those lead-filled CRTs leaving his company all the way to Hong Kong. And before you bother to impugne CBS/60 Minutes integrity you should know this: Our own GAO just happened to be investigating the same company and conducted a sting that caught the guy trying to illegally sell thousands of CRTs to their decoy broker in Hong Kong.

 

So this is what most of us think makes this guy, and others like him, bad people and "enemies" of not only US consumers who are being duped into believing that our e-waste is being disposed of properly, but of poor, innocent farmers in China as well.

 

Hope this clears things up for you.

 

Dave you must have read Jesse's flip comment about 60 minutes here being the same as 60 minutes there... Why is there any need to know the facts???

Well I know how much of a stickler Jesse is for facts.

 

But Dave there are good facts and there are BAD facts... Good facts come from RIGHT thinking news organizations like Fox... Bad, erroneous facts come from wrong thinking news sources like PBS, BBC, and now CBS... When you don't like the facts you simply impugn the news organization with something like..."everything they report is biased"... "The voices in my head will tell me the real facts in my very own perpendicular universe"...

[IllinoisDave]

What am I missing here? All this talk about enemies, and the enemies are us? People have been picking through garbage for thousands of years. As long as the world keeps producing it, then there will be people to pick through it.

Have you even watched the story Jesse? If not then your comments are ill-informed. If you have seen it then you obviously didn't understand the part of the story that angers the rest of us. So let me spell it out for you.

 

The main culprit in the story is some guy in Colorado who owns Executive Recycling. His website tries to elicit business by stating that other companies ship toxic e-waste to China where it's exposed to workers and the environment. His company, he claims on the other hand, keeps all of our toxic electronic waste right here in the good old US of A, where it is recycled legally and safely.

 

You see it's illegal to ship many types of e-waste overseas, including tvs monitors with cathode ray tubes, which contain large amounts of lead. So his claim is that his business is win-win for everybody. WE get to unload all our toys containing dangerous chemicals that cause cancer and mutations and stuff like that. HE gets to save the environment and make a little money at the same time. And CHINA is protected from more hazardous materials that otherwise would've been illegally shipped to their front door.

 

Just one little problem with our boy's claims about saving the planet. It's bullshit. Turns out that 60 Minutes tracked an overseas container filled with those lead-filled CRTs leaving his company all the way to Hong Kong. And before you bother to impugne CBS/60 Minutes integrity you should know this: Our own GAO just happened to be investigating the same company and conducted a sting that caught the guy trying to illegally sell thousands of CRTs to their decoy broker in Hong Kong.

 

So this is what most of us think makes this guy, and others like him, bad people and "enemies" of not only US consumers who are being duped into believing that our e-waste is being disposed of properly, but of poor, innocent farmers in China as well.

 

Hope this clears things up for you.

 

Dave you must have read Jesse's flip comment about 60 minutes here being the same as 60 minutes there... Why is there any need to know the facts???

Well I know how much of a stickler Jesse is for facts.

 

But Dave there are good facts and there are BAD facts... Good facts come from RIGHT thinking news organizations like Fox... Bad, erroneous facts come from wrong thinking news sources like PBS, BBC, and now CBS... When you don't like the facts you simply impugn the news organization with something like..."everything they report is biased"... "The voices in my head will tell me the real facts in my very own perpendicular universe"...

So true Rog. For some, when they're given "facts" they agree with, it's called fair and balanced. When they get facts they DISagee with, it's called liberal elitism.

[rogerluli]

What am I missing here? All this talk about enemies, and the enemies are us? People have been picking through garbage for thousands of years. As long as the world keeps producing it, then there will be people to pick through it.

Have you even watched the story Jesse? If not then your comments are ill-informed. If you have seen it then you obviously didn't understand the part of the story that angers the rest of us. So let me spell it out for you.

 

The main culprit in the story is some guy in Colorado who owns Executive Recycling. His website tries to elicit business by stating that other companies ship toxic e-waste to China where it's exposed to workers and the environment. His company, he claims on the other hand, keeps all of our toxic electronic waste right here in the good old US of A, where it is recycled legally and safely.

 

You see it's illegal to ship many types of e-waste overseas, including tvs monitors with cathode ray tubes, which contain large amounts of lead. So his claim is that his business is win-win for everybody. WE get to unload all our toys containing dangerous chemicals that cause cancer and mutations and stuff like that. HE gets to save the environment and make a little money at the same time. And CHINA is protected from more hazardous materials that otherwise would've been illegally shipped to their front door.

 

Just one little problem with our boy's claims about saving the planet. It's bullshit. Turns out that 60 Minutes tracked an overseas container filled with those lead-filled CRTs leaving his company all the way to Hong Kong. And before you bother to impugne CBS/60 Minutes integrity you should know this: Our own GAO just happened to be investigating the same company and conducted a sting that caught the guy trying to illegally sell thousands of CRTs to their decoy broker in Hong Kong.

 

So this is what most of us think makes this guy, and others like him, bad people and "enemies" of not only US consumers who are being duped into believing that our e-waste is being disposed of properly, but of poor, innocent farmers in China as well.

 

Hope this clears things up for you.

 

Dave you must have read Jesse's flip comment about 60 minutes here being the same as 60 minutes there... Why is there any need to know the facts???

Well I know how much of a stickler Jesse is for facts.

 

But Dave there are good facts and there are BAD facts... Good facts come from RIGHT thinking news organizations like Fox... Bad, erroneous facts come from wrong thinking news sources like PBS, BBC, and now CBS... When you don't like the facts you simply impugn the news organization with something like..."everything they report is biased"... "The voices in my head will tell me the real facts in my very own perpendicular universe"...

So true Rog. For some, when they're given "facts" they agree with, it's called fair and balanced. When they get facts they DISagee with, it's called liberal elitism. B)

 

You know Dave I do wonder about tag-teaming poor Jesse like this... when he's asleep in China... I sure wish I was strong enough to resist the temptation...

[IllinoisDave]

What am I missing here? All this talk about enemies, and the enemies are us? People have been picking through garbage for thousands of years. As long as the world keeps producing it, then there will be people to pick through it.

Have you even watched the story Jesse? If not then your comments are ill-informed. If you have seen it then you obviously didn't understand the part of the story that angers the rest of us. So let me spell it out for you.

 

The main culprit in the story is some guy in Colorado who owns Executive Recycling. His website tries to elicit business by stating that other companies ship toxic e-waste to China where it's exposed to workers and the environment. His company, he claims on the other hand, keeps all of our toxic electronic waste right here in the good old US of A, where it is recycled legally and safely.

 

You see it's illegal to ship many types of e-waste overseas, including tvs monitors with cathode ray tubes, which contain large amounts of lead. So his claim is that his business is win-win for everybody. WE get to unload all our toys containing dangerous chemicals that cause cancer and mutations and stuff like that. HE gets to save the environment and make a little money at the same time. And CHINA is protected from more hazardous materials that otherwise would've been illegally shipped to their front door.

 

Just one little problem with our boy's claims about saving the planet. It's bullshit. Turns out that 60 Minutes tracked an overseas container filled with those lead-filled CRTs leaving his company all the way to Hong Kong. And before you bother to impugne CBS/60 Minutes integrity you should know this: Our own GAO just happened to be investigating the same company and conducted a sting that caught the guy trying to illegally sell thousands of CRTs to their decoy broker in Hong Kong.

 

So this is what most of us think makes this guy, and others like him, bad people and "enemies" of not only US consumers who are being duped into believing that our e-waste is being disposed of properly, but of poor, innocent farmers in China as well.

 

Hope this clears things up for you.

 

Dave you must have read Jesse's flip comment about 60 minutes here being the same as 60 minutes there... Why is there any need to know the facts???

Well I know how much of a stickler Jesse is for facts.

 

But Dave there are good facts and there are BAD facts... Good facts come from RIGHT thinking news organizations like Fox... Bad, erroneous facts come from wrong thinking news sources like PBS, BBC, and now CBS... When you don't like the facts you simply impugn the news organization with something like..."everything they report is biased"... "The voices in my head will tell me the real facts in my very own perpendicular universe"...

So true Rog. For some, when they're given "facts" they agree with, it's called fair and balanced. When they get facts they DISagee with, it's called liberal elitism. B)

 

You know Dave I do wonder about tag-teaming poor Jesse like this... when he's asleep in China... I sure wish I was strong enough to resist the temptation...

Jesse sleeps?

[rogerluli]

What am I missing here? All this talk about enemies, and the enemies are us? People have been picking through garbage for thousands of years. As long as the world keeps producing it, then there will be people to pick through it.

Have you even watched the story Jesse? If not then your comments are ill-informed. If you have seen it then you obviously didn't understand the part of the story that angers the rest of us. So let me spell it out for you.

 

The main culprit in the story is some guy in Colorado who owns Executive Recycling. His website tries to elicit business by stating that other companies ship toxic e-waste to China where it's exposed to workers and the environment. His company, he claims on the other hand, keeps all of our toxic electronic waste right here in the good old US of A, where it is recycled legally and safely.

 

You see it's illegal to ship many types of e-waste overseas, including tvs monitors with cathode ray tubes, which contain large amounts of lead. So his claim is that his business is win-win for everybody. WE get to unload all our toys containing dangerous chemicals that cause cancer and mutations and stuff like that. HE gets to save the environment and make a little money at the same time. And CHINA is protected from more hazardous materials that otherwise would've been illegally shipped to their front door.

 

Just one little problem with our boy's claims about saving the planet. It's bullshit. Turns out that 60 Minutes tracked an overseas container filled with those lead-filled CRTs leaving his company all the way to Hong Kong. And before you bother to impugne CBS/60 Minutes integrity you should know this: Our own GAO just happened to be investigating the same company and conducted a sting that caught the guy trying to illegally sell thousands of CRTs to their decoy broker in Hong Kong.

 

So this is what most of us think makes this guy, and others like him, bad people and "enemies" of not only US consumers who are being duped into believing that our e-waste is being disposed of properly, but of poor, innocent farmers in China as well.

 

Hope this clears things up for you.

 

Dave you must have read Jesse's flip comment about 60 minutes here being the same as 60 minutes there... Why is there any need to know the facts???

Well I know how much of a stickler Jesse is for facts.

 

But Dave there are good facts and there are BAD facts... Good facts come from RIGHT thinking news organizations like Fox... Bad, erroneous facts come from wrong thinking news sources like PBS, BBC, and now CBS... When you don't like the facts you simply impugn the news organization with something like..."everything they report is biased"... B) "The voices in my head will tell me the real facts in my very own perpendicular universe"...

So true Rog. For some, when they're given "facts" they agree with, it's called fair and balanced. When they get facts they DISagee with, it's called liberal elitism.

 

You know Dave I do wonder about tag-teaming poor Jesse like this... when he's asleep in China... I sure wish I was strong enough to resist the temptation...

Jesse sleeps?

 

Well actually he kind of hangs upside down...

[IllinoisDave]

What am I missing here? All this talk about enemies, and the enemies are us? People have been picking through garbage for thousands of years. As long as the world keeps producing it, then there will be people to pick through it.

Have you even watched the story Jesse? If not then your comments are ill-informed. If you have seen it then you obviously didn't understand the part of the story that angers the rest of us. So let me spell it out for you.

 

The main culprit in the story is some guy in Colorado who owns Executive Recycling. His website tries to elicit business by stating that other companies ship toxic e-waste to China where it's exposed to workers and the environment. His company, he claims on the other hand, keeps all of our toxic electronic waste right here in the good old US of A, where it is recycled legally and safely.

 

You see it's illegal to ship many types of e-waste overseas, including tvs monitors with cathode ray tubes, which contain large amounts of lead. So his claim is that his business is win-win for everybody. WE get to unload all our toys containing dangerous chemicals that cause cancer and mutations and stuff like that. HE gets to save the environment and make a little money at the same time. And CHINA is protected from more hazardous materials that otherwise would've been illegally shipped to their front door.

 

Just one little problem with our boy's claims about saving the planet. It's bullshit. Turns out that 60 Minutes tracked an overseas container filled with those lead-filled CRTs leaving his company all the way to Hong Kong. And before you bother to impugne CBS/60 Minutes integrity you should know this: Our own GAO just happened to be investigating the same company and conducted a sting that caught the guy trying to illegally sell thousands of CRTs to their decoy broker in Hong Kong.

 

So this is what most of us think makes this guy, and others like him, bad people and "enemies" of not only US consumers who are being duped into believing that our e-waste is being disposed of properly, but of poor, innocent farmers in China as well.

 

Hope this clears things up for you.

 

Dave you must have read Jesse's flip comment about 60 minutes here being the same as 60 minutes there... Why is there any need to know the facts???

Well I know how much of a stickler Jesse is for facts.

 

But Dave there are good facts and there are BAD facts... Good facts come from RIGHT thinking news organizations like Fox... Bad, erroneous facts come from wrong thinking news sources like PBS, BBC, and now CBS... When you don't like the facts you simply impugn the news organization with something like..."everything they report is biased"... "The voices in my head will tell me the real facts in my very own perpendicular universe"...

So true Rog. For some, when they're given "facts" they agree with, it's called fair and balanced. When they get facts they DISagee with, it's called liberal elitism. B)

 

You know Dave I do wonder about tag-teaming poor Jesse like this... when he's asleep in China... I sure wish I was strong enough to resist the temptation...

Jesse sleeps?

 

Well actually he kind of hangs upside down...

Come to think of it...I've never seen him in the daylight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jesse...we kid because we wuv.

[Guest ShaQuaNew]

 

I assume you're joking Jesse. Because the BBC and PBS are universally respected as two of the most prestigious, objective and balanced news sources in the world. Same goes for 60 Minutes which, as Roger pointed out, was the actual source for this particular story.

 

Edited November 11, 2008 by ShaQuaNew (see edit history)

[Guest ShaQuaNew]

 

Jesse sleeps?

 

Well actually he kind of hangs upside down...

 

[IllinoisDave]

 

I assume you're joking Jesse. Because the BBC and PBS are universally respected as two of the most prestigious, objective and balanced news sources in the world. Same goes for 60 Minutes which, as Roger pointed out, was the actual source for this particular story.

 

So I was right. You were joking. B)

[Guest ShaQuaNew]

 

I assume you're joking Jesse. Because the BBC and PBS are universally respected as two of the most prestigious, objective and balanced news sources in the world. Same goes for 60 Minutes which, as Roger pointed out, was the actual source for this particular story.

 

So I was right. You were joking. B)

 

Both the BBS and PBS are well-documented to be some of the most left-slanted news organizations in the world. So naturally, when they publish a story, it has that spin on it. People that agree with that side of the political fence, enjoy getting their news from those sources. I do occasionally look at stories from the BBS, and PBS, but am always sure to balance it out by reading other news sources.

 

[Dennis143]

 

I assume you're joking Jesse. Because the BBC and PBS are universally respected as two of the most prestigious, objective and balanced news sources in the world. Same goes for 60 Minutes which, as Roger pointed out, was the actual source for this particular story.

 

So I was right. You were joking. B)

 

Both the BBS and PBS are well-documented to be some of the most left-slanted news organizations in the world. So naturally, when they publish a story, it has that spin on it. People that agree with that side of the political fence, enjoy getting their news from those sources. I do occasionally look at stories from the BBS, and PBS, but am always sure to balance it out by reading other news sources.

 

Let me guess...

 

Two of those other news sources are FOX cable and The National Review.

[Guest ShaQuaNew]

 

I assume you're joking Jesse. Because the BBC and PBS are universally respected as two of the most prestigious, objective and balanced news sources in the world. Same goes for 60 Minutes which, as Roger pointed out, was the actual source for this particular story.

 

So I was right. You were joking. B)

 

Both the BBS and PBS are well-documented to be some of the most left-slanted news organizations in the world. So naturally, when they publish a story, it has that spin on it. People that agree with that side of the political fence, enjoy getting their news from those sources. I do occasionally look at stories from the BBS, and PBS, but am always sure to balance it out by reading other news sources.

 

Let me guess...

 

Two of those other news sources are FOX cable and The National Review.

 

Yes, I do enjoy a "Fair and Balanced" approach to news reporting, and both of those are good sources. Don't forget The Drudge Report, Washington Times, Neal Boortz, Clark Howard, Mark Levin, and Michelle Malkin.

 

:-)

 

I can tell you what they are not:

 

1. New York Times

2. The Washington Post

3. USA Today

4. MSNBC

5. CBS

6. The San Francisco Chronicle

Edited November 11, 2008 by ShaQuaNew (see edit history)

[IllinoisDave]

 

I assume you're joking Jesse. Because the BBC and PBS are universally respected as two of the most prestigious, objective and balanced news sources in the world. Same goes for 60 Minutes which, as Roger pointed out, was the actual source for this particular story.

 

So I was right. You were joking. B)

 

Both the BBS and PBS are well-documented to be some of the most left-slanted news organizations in the world. So naturally, when they publish a story, it has that spin on it. People that agree with that side of the political fence, enjoy getting their news from those sources. I do occasionally look at stories from the BBS, and PBS, but am always sure to balance it out by reading other news sources.

 

Reporting facts, no matter how much you don't happen to like them, doesn't make a news orginization "left-slanted." Fox mixes in a healthy, or unhealthy, dose of opinion and commentary in their "news." That's the difference.