Police in China Warned Not to Inflame Protests...

[rogerluli]

Police in China have a history of clamping down very hard on any protests...and too often they have turned a protest into a riot... These "mass incidents" have increased with the economic downturn and more people being angry over official corruption... Here the Minister of Public Security weighs in with a warning to police...

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/03/china-police

 

 

China's police must avoid inflaming riots and protests, the country's most senior police official has warned, as concern grows about social unrest.

 

Meng Jianzhu, minister of public security, acknowledged that there were a growing number of "mass incidents" caused by economic crimes as well as other issues in an article this weekend.

 

Premier Wen Jiabao warned in the same journal that tensions caused by slowing economic growth and price rises could undermine social stability, adding that this year would be "the worst in recent times for our economic development".

 

According to official figures, there are tens of thousands of protests and disturbances annually. This morning hundreds of angry taxi drivers went on strike and smashed vehicles in Chongqing, China's fourth-largest city.

 

Protesters smashed 20 vehicles, including three police cars, and pulled cab drivers who refused to strike and their passengers out of their cars.

 

The state news agency Xinhua said officials had already taken measures to deal with complaints including fuel shortages, competition from unlicensed cabs and high fines for traffic violations.

 

Other incidents this year have included a riot in Weng'an, Guizhou, where 30,000 residents took to the streets and trashed police headquarters and government offices over allegations of corruption and official abuses; and a two-day riot by thousands of investors in Hunan, who demanded government action after an illegal investment scheme failed.

 

"In handling mass incidents, we must be clear that the chief tasks of the public security authorities are to maintain order on the scene, ease conflicts, avoid excessive steps and prevent the situation getting out of

control," wrote Meng, in the Communist party journal Seeking Truth.

 

He urged the authorities to "absolutely avoid inappropriate use of police, poor definition of their role and mishandling that exacerbates conflict, and absolutely avoid incidents of bloodshed, injury and death."

 

He added that economic forces and the internet had made citizens more sensitive to a wider range of ideas.

 

"We must protect not only national political and military security, but also economic, financial and information security," Meng added, pointing out economic crimes and fraud as a particular source of unrest.

 

"Illegal investment and chain-marketing, underground banks and other economic crimes are sparking growing numbers of mass incidents."

[IllinoisDave]

Police in China have a history of clamping down very hard on any protests...and too often they have turned a protest into a riot... These "mass incidents" have increased with the economic downturn and more people being angry over official corruption... Here the Minister of Public Security weighs in with a warning to police...

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/03/china-police

 

 

China's police must avoid inflaming riots and protests, the country's most senior police official has warned, as concern grows about social unrest.

 

Meng Jianzhu, minister of public security, acknowledged that there were a growing number of "mass incidents" caused by economic crimes as well as other issues in an article this weekend.

 

Premier Wen Jiabao warned in the same journal that tensions caused by slowing economic growth and price rises could undermine social stability, adding that this year would be "the worst in recent times for our economic development".

 

According to official figures, there are tens of thousands of protests and disturbances annually. This morning hundreds of angry taxi drivers went on strike and smashed vehicles in Chongqing, China's fourth-largest city.

 

Protesters smashed 20 vehicles, including three police cars, and pulled cab drivers who refused to strike and their passengers out of their cars.

 

The state news agency Xinhua said officials had already taken measures to deal with complaints including fuel shortages, competition from unlicensed cabs and high fines for traffic violations.

 

Other incidents this year have included a riot in Weng'an, Guizhou, where 30,000 residents took to the streets and trashed police headquarters and government offices over allegations of corruption and official abuses; and a two-day riot by thousands of investors in Hunan, who demanded government action after an illegal investment scheme failed.

 

"In handling mass incidents, we must be clear that the chief tasks of the public security authorities are to maintain order on the scene, ease conflicts, avoid excessive steps and prevent the situation getting out of

control," wrote Meng, in the Communist party journal Seeking Truth.

 

He urged the authorities to "absolutely avoid inappropriate use of police, poor definition of their role and mishandling that exacerbates conflict, and absolutely avoid incidents of bloodshed, injury and death."

 

He added that economic forces and the internet had made citizens more sensitive to a wider range of ideas.

 

"We must protect not only national political and military security, but also economic, financial and information security," Meng added, pointing out economic crimes and fraud as a particular source of unrest.

 

"Illegal investment and chain-marketing, underground banks and other economic crimes are sparking growing numbers of mass incidents."

Rog. I cannot see these incidents you speak of from my front porch. Therefore I must conclude they are not happening.

[rogerluli]

Police in China have a history of clamping down very hard on any protests...and too often they have turned a protest into a riot... B) These "mass incidents" have increased with the economic downturn and more people being angry over official corruption... Here the Minister of Public Security weighs in with a warning to police...

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/03/china-police

 

 

China's police must avoid inflaming riots and protests, the country's most senior police official has warned, as concern grows about social unrest.

 

Meng Jianzhu, minister of public security, acknowledged that there were a growing number of "mass incidents" caused by economic crimes as well as other issues in an article this weekend.

 

Premier Wen Jiabao warned in the same journal that tensions caused by slowing economic growth and price rises could undermine social stability, adding that this year would be "the worst in recent times for our economic development".

 

According to official figures, there are tens of thousands of protests and disturbances annually. This morning hundreds of angry taxi drivers went on strike and smashed vehicles in Chongqing, China's fourth-largest city.

 

Protesters smashed 20 vehicles, including three police cars, and pulled cab drivers who refused to strike and their passengers out of their cars.

 

The state news agency Xinhua said officials had already taken measures to deal with complaints including fuel shortages, competition from unlicensed cabs and high fines for traffic violations.

 

Other incidents this year have included a riot in Weng'an, Guizhou, where 30,000 residents took to the streets and trashed police headquarters and government offices over allegations of corruption and official abuses; and a two-day riot by thousands of investors in Hunan, who demanded government action after an illegal investment scheme failed.

 

"In handling mass incidents, we must be clear that the chief tasks of the public security authorities are to maintain order on the scene, ease conflicts, avoid excessive steps and prevent the situation getting out of

control," wrote Meng, in the Communist party journal Seeking Truth.

 

He urged the authorities to "absolutely avoid inappropriate use of police, poor definition of their role and mishandling that exacerbates conflict, and absolutely avoid incidents of bloodshed, injury and death."

 

He added that economic forces and the internet had made citizens more sensitive to a wider range of ideas.

 

"We must protect not only national political and military security, but also economic, financial and information security," Meng added, pointing out economic crimes and fraud as a particular source of unrest.

 

"Illegal investment and chain-marketing, underground banks and other economic crimes are sparking growing numbers of mass incidents."

Rog. I cannot see these incidents you speak of from my front porch. Therefore I must conclude they are not happening.

 

[rogerluli]

Police in China have a history of clamping down very hard on any protests...and too often they have turned a protest into a riot... These "mass incidents" have increased with the economic downturn and more people being angry over official corruption... Here the Minister of Public Security weighs in with a warning to police...

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/03/china-police

 

 

China's police must avoid inflaming riots and protests, the country's most senior police official has warned, as concern grows about social unrest.

 

Meng Jianzhu, minister of public security, acknowledged that there were a growing number of "mass incidents" caused by economic crimes as well as other issues in an article this weekend.

 

Premier Wen Jiabao warned in the same journal that tensions caused by slowing economic growth and price rises could undermine social stability, adding that this year would be "the worst in recent times for our economic development".

 

According to official figures, there are tens of thousands of protests and disturbances annually. This morning hundreds of angry taxi drivers went on strike and smashed vehicles in Chongqing, China's fourth-largest city.

 

Protesters smashed 20 vehicles, including three police cars, and pulled cab drivers who refused to strike and their passengers out of their cars.

 

The state news agency Xinhua said officials had already taken measures to deal with complaints including fuel shortages, competition from unlicensed cabs and high fines for traffic violations.

 

Other incidents this year have included a riot in Weng'an, Guizhou, where 30,000 residents took to the streets and trashed police headquarters and government offices over allegations of corruption and official abuses; and a two-day riot by thousands of investors in Hunan, who demanded government action after an illegal investment scheme failed.

 

"In handling mass incidents, we must be clear that the chief tasks of the public security authorities are to maintain order on the scene, ease conflicts, avoid excessive steps and prevent the situation getting out of

control," wrote Meng, in the Communist party journal Seeking Truth.

 

He urged the authorities to "absolutely avoid inappropriate use of police, poor definition of their role and mishandling that exacerbates conflict, and absolutely avoid incidents of bloodshed, injury and death."

 

He added that economic forces and the internet had made citizens more sensitive to a wider range of ideas.

 

"We must protect not only national political and military security, but also economic, financial and information security," Meng added, pointing out economic crimes and fraud as a particular source of unrest.

 

"Illegal investment and chain-marketing, underground banks and other economic crimes are sparking growing numbers of mass incidents."

Rog. I cannot see these incidents you speak of from my front porch. Therefore I must conclude they are not happening. B)

 

 

It really is naughty of me to post this kind of thread while Jesse is still asleep...

[Dennis143]

Police in China have a history of clamping down very hard on any protests...and too often they have turned a protest into a riot... These "mass incidents" have increased with the economic downturn and more people being angry over official corruption... Here the Minister of Public Security weighs in with a warning to police...

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/03/china-police

 

 

China's police must avoid inflaming riots and protests, the country's most senior police official has warned, as concern grows about social unrest.

 

Meng Jianzhu, minister of public security, acknowledged that there were a growing number of "mass incidents" caused by economic crimes as well as other issues in an article this weekend.

 

Premier Wen Jiabao warned in the same journal that tensions caused by slowing economic growth and price rises could undermine social stability, adding that this year would be "the worst in recent times for our economic development".

 

According to official figures, there are tens of thousands of protests and disturbances annually. This morning hundreds of angry taxi drivers went on strike and smashed vehicles in Chongqing, China's fourth-largest city.

 

Protesters smashed 20 vehicles, including three police cars, and pulled cab drivers who refused to strike and their passengers out of their cars.

 

The state news agency Xinhua said officials had already taken measures to deal with complaints including fuel shortages, competition from unlicensed cabs and high fines for traffic violations.

 

Other incidents this year have included a riot in Weng'an, Guizhou, where 30,000 residents took to the streets and trashed police headquarters and government offices over allegations of corruption and official abuses; and a two-day riot by thousands of investors in Hunan, who demanded government action after an illegal investment scheme failed.

 

"In handling mass incidents, we must be clear that the chief tasks of the public security authorities are to maintain order on the scene, ease conflicts, avoid excessive steps and prevent the situation getting out of

control," wrote Meng, in the Communist party journal Seeking Truth.

 

He urged the authorities to "absolutely avoid inappropriate use of police, poor definition of their role and mishandling that exacerbates conflict, and absolutely avoid incidents of bloodshed, injury and death."

 

He added that economic forces and the internet had made citizens more sensitive to a wider range of ideas.

 

"We must protect not only national political and military security, but also economic, financial and information security," Meng added, pointing out economic crimes and fraud as a particular source of unrest.

 

"Illegal investment and chain-marketing, underground banks and other economic crimes are sparking growing numbers of mass incidents."

Rog. I cannot see these incidents you speak of from my front porch. Therefore I must conclude they are not happening. B)

 

 

It really is naughty of me to post this kind of thread while Jesse is still asleep...

Does Jesse work for the government too?

 

Seems his main duty is to post here on Candle.

[IllinoisDave]

Police in China have a history of clamping down very hard on any protests...and too often they have turned a protest into a riot... These "mass incidents" have increased with the economic downturn and more people being angry over official corruption... Here the Minister of Public Security weighs in with a warning to police...

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/03/china-police

 

 

China's police must avoid inflaming riots and protests, the country's most senior police official has warned, as concern grows about social unrest.

 

Meng Jianzhu, minister of public security, acknowledged that there were a growing number of "mass incidents" caused by economic crimes as well as other issues in an article this weekend.

 

Premier Wen Jiabao warned in the same journal that tensions caused by slowing economic growth and price rises could undermine social stability, adding that this year would be "the worst in recent times for our economic development".

 

According to official figures, there are tens of thousands of protests and disturbances annually. This morning hundreds of angry taxi drivers went on strike and smashed vehicles in Chongqing, China's fourth-largest city.

 

Protesters smashed 20 vehicles, including three police cars, and pulled cab drivers who refused to strike and their passengers out of their cars.

 

The state news agency Xinhua said officials had already taken measures to deal with complaints including fuel shortages, competition from unlicensed cabs and high fines for traffic violations.

 

Other incidents this year have included a riot in Weng'an, Guizhou, where 30,000 residents took to the streets and trashed police headquarters and government offices over allegations of corruption and official abuses; and a two-day riot by thousands of investors in Hunan, who demanded government action after an illegal investment scheme failed.

 

"In handling mass incidents, we must be clear that the chief tasks of the public security authorities are to maintain order on the scene, ease conflicts, avoid excessive steps and prevent the situation getting out of

control," wrote Meng, in the Communist party journal Seeking Truth.

 

He urged the authorities to "absolutely avoid inappropriate use of police, poor definition of their role and mishandling that exacerbates conflict, and absolutely avoid incidents of bloodshed, injury and death."

 

He added that economic forces and the internet had made citizens more sensitive to a wider range of ideas.

 

"We must protect not only national political and military security, but also economic, financial and information security," Meng added, pointing out economic crimes and fraud as a particular source of unrest.

 

"Illegal investment and chain-marketing, underground banks and other economic crimes are sparking growing numbers of mass incidents."

Rog. I cannot see these incidents you speak of from my front porch. Therefore I must conclude they are not happening.

 

 

It really is naughty of me to post this kind of thread while Jesse is still asleep...

Jesse sleeps? B)

[rogerluli]

I was reading about the cabbie's strike in Sanya, Hainan this morning and the last paragraph in the article I thought was worth noting...

 

"China sees tens of thousands of violent public outbursts each year, termed "mass incidents" by the government, often stemming from grievances over abuse of power, corruption, land grabs or labour disputes." (courtesy of AFP)

 

Now AFP is the oldest news agency in the world and one of the 3 largest. They have more than 100 bureau offices in every corner of the globe. Their Asia-Pacific office headquarters is in Hong Kong. I think they know pretty well what is going on. From everything I read I agree with their statement...perhaps some would not... If we can accept it at face value it certainly shows a very deep-seated displeasure with the way things are in China by a substantial percentage of the general populace. For comparison sake how many "mass incidents" occur every year in the US???

 

Just some random thoughts for a Wednesday morning...

[Guest ShaQuaNew]

Police in China have a history of clamping down very hard on any protests...and too often they have turned a protest into a riot... These "mass incidents" have increased with the economic downturn and more people being angry over official corruption... Here the Minister of Public Security weighs in with a warning to police...

 

China has strong laws about public and civil disobedience. Don't think for moment that the people behind these displays are innocent white doves. When people are openly breaking the law, they will be arrested. Each and every one of those who participates in these events know it, and in so doing make sure that they create as much chaos before they are taken away to jail. Any protest in China must be approved by the government in advance. And, as you would expect, few of those who file to stage a protest get approval to do so. Like it or not, there are laws in China. Disobey them, and pay the consequences.

[rogerluli]

Police in China have a history of clamping down very hard on any protests...and too often they have turned a protest into a riot... These "mass incidents" have increased with the economic downturn and more people being angry over official corruption... Here the Minister of Public Security weighs in with a warning to police...

 

China has strong laws about public and civil disobedience. Don't think for moment that the people behind these displays are innocent white doves. When people are openly breaking the law, they will be arrested. Each and every one of those who participates in these events know it, and in so doing make sure that they create as much chaos before they are taken away to jail. Any protest in China must be approved by the government in advance. And, as you would expect, few of those who file to stage a protest get approval to do so. Like it or not, there are laws in China. Disobey them, and pay the consequences.

 

Jesse I believe you are old enough to remember the civil rights movement here in the 1960's...There were many laws in place then too to quell any civil disobedience and "keep people in their place"...Thankfully not everyone was content with having to sit in the back of the bus...People got their heads broken, people went to jail, and people were murdered... and slowly but surely America changed...

[Guest ShaQuaNew]

 

Jesse I believe you are old enough to remember the civil rights movement here in the 1960's...There were many laws in place then too to quell any civil disobedience and "keep people in their place"...Thankfully not everyone was content with having to sit in the back of the bus...People got their heads broken, people went to jail, and people were murdered... and slowly but surely America changed...

 

China is not, and will never be the US. If you are talking about the US, civil disobedience is one thing. Burning buildings, cars, and terrorizing a neighborhood is quite another. Please stay on topic.

[Wendy W]

Don just spoil Rogger too much

[rogerluli]

 

Jesse I believe you are old enough to remember the civil rights movement here in the 1960's...There were many laws in place then too to quell any civil disobedience and "keep people in their place"...Thankfully not everyone was content with having to sit in the back of the bus...People got their heads broken, people went to jail, and people were murdered... and slowly but surely America changed...

 

China is not, and will never be the US. If you are talking about the US, civil disobedience is one thing. Burning buildings, cars, and terrorizing a neighborhood is quite another. Please stay on topic.

 

So civil disobedience would never work in China??? Like say the guy holding two shopping bags stopping a line of tanks...

[rogerluli]

Don just spoil Rogger too much

 

Please little sister...Don't blame Don for my errant ways...

[Guest ShaQuaNew]

 

So civil disobedience would never work in China??? Like say the guy holding two shopping bags stopping a line of tanks...

 

That was a peaceful and very brave man indeed. And make no mistake about it, that I am indeed an advocate of people publically voicing their discontent. Your original post however accuses the Chinese police of inflaming a demonstration. If the police ask you to disburse, and you choose to remain, then just who is doing the inflaming of the situation? The demonstrators? The police? Both? None?

[rogerluli]

 

So civil disobedience would never work in China??? Like say the guy holding two shopping bags stopping a line of tanks...

 

That was a peaceful and very brave man indeed. And make no mistake about it, that I am indeed an advocate of people publically voicing their discontent. Your original post however accuses the Chinese police of inflaming a demonstration. If the police ask you to disburse, and you choose to remain, then just who is doing the inflaming of the situation? The demonstrators? The police? Both? None?

 

Oh no sir...The person accusing the Chinese police of inflaming protests was the Head Cop in China...