rogerluli Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displa...ory_id=12342509 I already know what you're thinking... What's a pagan like me doing talking about RELIGION??? Lately with all the bad news about melamine, mine disasters, intentionally contaminated food, etc. I've been wondering if China doesn't need some kind of ethical/moral guidepost for its people. "To get rich is glorious" just doesn't cover all the bases of human behavior... There is Confuscianism and I have read of party efforts to promote it. But what seems to be taking hold much more quickly is Christianity...So here's an article from the widely respected Economist on the growth of Christianity in China... Link to comment
heyjimi Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displa...ory_id=12342509 I already know what you're thinking... What's a pagan like me doing talking about RELIGION??? Lately with all the bad news about melamine, mine disasters, intentionally contaminated food, etc. I've been wondering if China doesn't need some kind of ethical/moral guidepost for its people. "To get rich is glorious" just doesn't cover all the bases of human behavior... There is Confuscianism and I have read of party efforts to promote it. But what seems to be taking hold much more quickly is Christianity...So here's an article from the widely respected Economist on the growth of Christianity in China... My wifes Mom is Christian,also my step daughter is always asking questions about God,the Christian faith.....there is a great hunger right now over there for something greater than "I,me,mine" the growth of Christianity in China....i'm not surprised jimi Link to comment
IllinoisDave Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displa...ory_id=12342509 I already know what you're thinking... What's a pagan like me doing talking about RELIGION??? Lately with all the bad news about melamine, mine disasters, intentionally contaminated food, etc. I've been wondering if China doesn't need some kind of ethical/moral guidepost for its people. "To get rich is glorious" just doesn't cover all the bases of human behavior... There is Confuscianism and I have read of party efforts to promote it. But what seems to be taking hold much more quickly is Christianity...So here's an article from the widely respected Economist on the growth of Christianity in China...Christianity's track record as an ethical/moral guidepost is dubious at best. What it does have a good track record in is self-promotion and separating people from their money and senses. YMMV Edited October 4, 2008 by IllinoisDave (see edit history) Link to comment
Guest Mike and Lily Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displa...ory_id=12342509 I already know what you're thinking... What's a pagan like me doing talking about RELIGION??? Lately with all the bad news about melamine, mine disasters, intentionally contaminated food, etc. I've been wondering if China doesn't need some kind of ethical/moral guidepost for its people. "To get rich is glorious" just doesn't cover all the bases of human behavior... B) There is Confuscianism and I have read of party efforts to promote it. But what seems to be taking hold much more quickly is Christianity...So here's an article from the widely respected Economist on the growth of Christianity in China...Christianity's track record as an ethical/moral guidepost is dubious at best. What it does have a good track record in is self-promotion and separating people from their money and senses. YMMV No religion has a good track record. Link to comment
IllinoisDave Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displa...ory_id=12342509 I already know what you're thinking... What's a pagan like me doing talking about RELIGION??? Lately with all the bad news about melamine, mine disasters, intentionally contaminated food, etc. I've been wondering if China doesn't need some kind of ethical/moral guidepost for its people. "To get rich is glorious" just doesn't cover all the bases of human behavior... B) There is Confuscianism and I have read of party efforts to promote it. But what seems to be taking hold much more quickly is Christianity...So here's an article from the widely respected Economist on the growth of Christianity in China...Christianity's track record as an ethical/moral guidepost is dubious at best. What it does have a good track record in is self-promotion and separating people from their money and senses. YMMV No religion has a good track record.Won't argue with that Mike. (for once ) But since Rog's post and link dealt with Chrisitianity, that's the one I mentioned. Link to comment
heyjimi Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displa...ory_id=12342509 I already know what you're thinking... What's a pagan like me doing talking about RELIGION??? Lately with all the bad news about melamine, mine disasters, intentionally contaminated food, etc. I've been wondering if China doesn't need some kind of ethical/moral guidepost for its people. "To get rich is glorious" just doesn't cover all the bases of human behavior... B) There is Confuscianism and I have read of party efforts to promote it. But what seems to be taking hold much more quickly is Christianity...So here's an article from the widely respected Economist on the growth of Christianity in China...Christianity's track record as an ethical/moral guidepost is dubious at best. What it does have a good track record in is self-promotion and separating people from their money and senses. YMMV Christianity as a ethical/moral guidepost,is just that a guidepost,a goal to aim for,religion makes one a better person,but by no means a perfect person.It is a guidepost.of course religion has a bad track record,because the human race is imperfect,no way getting around that. peace outjimi Link to comment
usaRichard Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Christianity's track record as an ethical/moral guidepost is dubious at best. B) What it does have a good track record in is self-promotion and separating people from their money and senses. YMMV Nothing (or very few things) in this imperfect world is absolute, there are good people and very evil people, someone could be a good (insert whatever religion here) and not go to church, just as someone could go to church and commit heinous crimes. Going to church doesn't make anyone religious any more than walking into a barn makes you a cow. If you took your car to a mechanic and got ripped off, would you then condemn all mechanics? just my opinonRichard Link to comment
Randy W Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Christianity's track record as an ethical/moral guidepost is dubious at best. B) What it does have a good track record in is self-promotion and separating people from their money and senses. YMMV Nothing (or very few things) in this imperfect world is absolute, there are good people and very evil people, someone could be a good (insert whatever religion here) and not go to church, just as someone could go to church and commit heinous crimes. Going to church doesn't make anyone religious any more than walking into a barn makes you a cow. If you took your car to a mechanic and got ripped off, would you then condemn all mechanics? just my opinonRichard No, but I wouldn't go back ! Link to comment
Guest jin979 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 most chinese do not think religion (church) important, better just live by culture. B) very long history Link to comment
IllinoisDave Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 religion makes one a better personNot necessarily, which is sorta my point. B) Link to comment
usaRichard Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) No, but I wouldn't go back ! I hope you wouldn't sit there for a given number years either. B) Richard was that bad? Edited October 4, 2008 by usaRichard (see edit history) Link to comment
IllinoisDave Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) someone could be a good (insert whatever religion here) and not go to church,Or you could insert "person" without ANY religion. B) If you took your car to a mechanic and got ripped off, would you then condemn all mechanics?And of course I wasn't condemning ALL mechanics. Edited October 4, 2008 by IllinoisDave (see edit history) Link to comment
IllinoisDave Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Christianity's track record as an ethical/moral guidepost is dubious at best. B) What it does have a good track record in is self-promotion and separating people from their money and senses. YMMV Nothing (or very few things) in this imperfect world is absolute, there are good people and very evil people, someone could be a good (insert whatever religion here) and not go to church, just as someone could go to church and commit heinous crimes. Going to church doesn't make anyone religious any more than walking into a barn makes you a cow. If you took your car to a mechanic and got ripped off, would you then condemn all mechanics? just my opinonRichard No, but I wouldn't go back ! Link to comment
IllinoisDave Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 most chinese do not think religion (church) important, better just live by culture. B) very long history Yes, longer than most religions. Link to comment
usaRichard Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) Or you could insert "person" without ANY religion. I agree If you took your car to a mechanic and got ripped off, would you then condemn all mechanics? And of course I wasn't condemning ALL mechanics. This was a neutral statement I made, not directed at you Dave Richard Edited October 4, 2008 by usaRichard (see edit history) Link to comment
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