Petition Status After Arrival At GUZ

[Sebastian]

Has anyone ever heard of requesting the opening of a 'provisional file' at GZ ? I remember two friends of mine doing this 7 years ago, once the A number had been assigned (and that was assigned when the packet left to go to GZ).

 

Ring any bells ? or am I having a fog of a memory?

[rogerinca]

Has anyone ever heard of requesting the opening of a 'provisional file' at GZ ? I remember two friends of mine doing this 7 years ago, once the A number had been assigned (and that was assigned when the packet left to go to GZ).

 

Ring any bells ? or am I having a fog of a memory?

 

 

Your memory may serve you well. However, the problem is, that 7 years ago was most likely pre-911 and that is an ¡®eternity¡¯ when speaking to this process which is so [dynamic] and has changed/evolved since even last year and again the year before that; let alone since late 2000 or early 2001!!

 

I have never heard of an ¡°A¡± number nor a provisional file. It is only the GUZ number that we now deal with, once it leaves the NVC and transits to the Consulate in Guangzhou.

 

There may well be some, who have been here for many years, who can recall this aspect; however, I believe it would be a moot issue today ??

[Shenzhen K-1]

Has anyone ever heard of requesting the opening of a 'provisional file' at GZ ? I remember two friends of mine doing this 7 years ago, once the A number had been assigned (and that was assigned when the packet left to go to GZ).

 

Ring any bells ? or am I having a fog of a memory?

 

 

Your memory may serve you well. However, the problem is, that 7 years ago was most likely pre-911 and that is an ¡®eternity¡¯ when speaking to this process which is so [dynamic] and has changed/evolved since even last year and again the year before that; let alone since late 2000 or early 2001!!

 

I have never heard of an ¡°A¡± number nor a provisional file. It is only the GUZ number that we now deal with, once it leaves the NVC and transits to the Consulate in Guangzhou.

 

There may well be some, who have been here for many years, who can recall this aspect; however, I believe it would be a moot issue today ??

 

Rog

 

I asked DOS when I called them and also the person that works at the Senator's office I have spoke about before. They both stated that GZU has too much paper work to do provisional files! Meaning, not enough people to handle doing them and keeping track of them after the real paper work shows up!

 

Mark B)

[Guest Rob & Jin]

Has anyone ever heard of requesting the opening of a 'provisional file' at GZ ? I remember two friends of mine doing this 7 years ago, once the A number had been assigned (and that was assigned when the packet left to go to GZ).

 

Ring any bells ? or am I having a fog of a memory?

 

 

Your memory may serve you well. However, the problem is, that 7 years ago was most likely pre-911 and that is an ¡®eternity¡¯ when speaking to this process which is so [dynamic] and has changed/evolved since even last year and again the year before that; let alone since late 2000 or early 2001!!

 

I have never heard of an ¡°A¡± number nor a provisional file. It is only the GUZ number that we now deal with, once it leaves the NVC and transits to the Consulate in Guangzhou.

 

There may well be some, who have been here for many years, who can recall this aspect; however, I believe it would be a moot issue today ??

 

Rog

 

I asked DOS when I called them and also the person that works at the Senator's office I have spoke about before. They both stated that GZU has too much paper work to do provisional files! Meaning, not enough people to handle doing them and keeping track of them after the real paper work shows up!

 

Mark

 

 

Sounds like a bunch of c**p to me B)

[rogerinca]

Has anyone ever heard of requesting the opening of a 'provisional file' at GZ ? I remember two friends of mine doing this 7 years ago, once the A number had been assigned (and that was assigned when the packet left to go to GZ).

 

Ring any bells ? or am I having a fog of a memory?

 

 

Your memory may serve you well. However, the problem is, that 7 years ago was most likely pre-911 and that is an ¡®eternity¡¯ when speaking to this process which is so [dynamic] and has changed/evolved since even last year and again the year before that; let alone since late 2000 or early 2001!!

 

I have never heard of an ¡°A¡± number nor a provisional file. It is only the GUZ number that we now deal with, once it leaves the NVC and transits to the Consulate in Guangzhou.

 

There may well be some, who have been here for many years, who can recall this aspect; however, I believe it would be a moot issue today ??

 

Rog

 

I asked DOS when I called them and also the person that works at the Senator's office I have spoke about before. They both stated that GZU has too much paper work to do provisional files! Meaning, not enough people to handle doing them and keeping track of them after the real paper work shows up!

 

Mark B)

 

 

Sounds like a bunch of c**p to me B)

 

 

Which response ?? Mine or Mark's ???

 

 

 

 

[Guest Rob & Jin]

Has anyone ever heard of requesting the opening of a 'provisional file' at GZ ? I remember two friends of mine doing this 7 years ago, once the A number had been assigned (and that was assigned when the packet left to go to GZ).

 

Ring any bells ? or am I having a fog of a memory?

 

 

Your memory may serve you well. However, the problem is, that 7 years ago was most likely pre-911 and that is an ¡®eternity¡¯ when speaking to this process which is so [dynamic] and has changed/evolved since even last year and again the year before that; let alone since late 2000 or early 2001!!

 

I have never heard of an ¡°A¡± number nor a provisional file. It is only the GUZ number that we now deal with, once it leaves the NVC and transits to the Consulate in Guangzhou.

 

There may well be some, who have been here for many years, who can recall this aspect; however, I believe it would be a moot issue today ??

 

Rog

 

I asked DOS when I called them and also the person that works at the Senator's office I have spoke about before. They both stated that GZU has too much paper work to do provisional files! Meaning, not enough people to handle doing them and keeping track of them after the real paper work shows up! B)

 

Mark B)

 

 

Sounds like a bunch of c**p to me

 

 

Which response ?? Mine or Mark's ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

DOS/GUZ reason for not doing prov. files, why do they need the paper, they have it electronically thats enough to get started.

[Shenzhen K-1]

Has anyone ever heard of requesting the opening of a 'provisional file' at GZ ? I remember two friends of mine doing this 7 years ago, once the A number had been assigned (and that was assigned when the packet left to go to GZ).

 

Ring any bells ? or am I having a fog of a memory?

 

 

Your memory may serve you well. However, the problem is, that 7 years ago was most likely pre-911 and that is an ¡®eternity¡¯ when speaking to this process which is so [dynamic] and has changed/evolved since even last year and again the year before that; let alone since late 2000 or early 2001!!

 

I have never heard of an ¡°A¡± number nor a provisional file. It is only the GUZ number that we now deal with, once it leaves the NVC and transits to the Consulate in Guangzhou.

 

There may well be some, who have been here for many years, who can recall this aspect; however, I believe it would be a moot issue today ??

 

Rog

 

I asked DOS when I called them and also the person that works at the Senator's office I have spoke about before. They both stated that GZU has too much paper work to do provisional files! Meaning, not enough people to handle doing them and keeping track of them after the real paper work shows up! B)

 

Mark

 

 

Sounds like a bunch of c**p to me B)

 

 

Which response ?? Mine or Mark's ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

DOS/GUZ reason for not doing prov. files, why do they need the paper, they have it electronically thats enough to get started.

 

It should be, but it is not!!! B) B)

[tsap seui]

If I remember right, when our case left the NVC it took 7 days for it to arrive in customs hold in GUZ. It sat there for about a month and a half. About another month and a half we had our interview date.

 

Yes times have changed a bit!!

 

 

Agreed, and not for the better. As for futher delays due to increased #'s , not sure I buy this whole argument. Its increased world wide but its still only taking vast amounts UK/ Phillipino filiers 1-2 months from NVC to interview.

Plus i'm still not convinced about Guz being the busiest, most understaffed embassy in the world, does not make sense. JMHO

 

 

NVC to GUZ to P-3 in hand was 118 days for us. Funny thing was. the very day our application was activated as open by GUZ, the P-3 was "sent" the SAME day.

 

Ahem....maybe if some of us ahead of you guys didn't get ignorant "administrative processing" blue slips your P-3 and P-4's would come sooner.

 

Oh wait a minute, please disregard the above..."administrative processing" means "we ain't doin' nothin' except hiding behind yet another silly high-falutin governmental phrase that makes us look important, and like we're hard at work saving America from the invading hordes.

 

Just look up "administrative processing" in any dictionary...you'll see a picture of a GUZ VO asleep in their cubicle with copies of policy statements from DOS, INA, Homeland Security, and USCIS in the trash can underneath "I am God" comic books.

 

Happy New Year to all you guys in que...may your dreams of life with your dear Chinese woman come true quickly.

 

Fairdinkum, I am.

 

tsap seui

 

Sorry if'n my post looks negative, it's just my Kurt Vonnegutt, Jr., type, perspective of life in America, and ugly American's in GUZ. I'm actually very happy from earlier talkin' 4 1/2 hours with my lil' rabbit, and watchin' my American flag lower itself on it's pole amongst the scattered snow flakes. I'm truly very optimistic that in 2008, 2009, or maybe 2010 we'll get "that letter" the nice VO in GUZ promised me we'd get in a month, month and a half...over 5 months ago. Yessir, I is.

[Shenzhen K-1]

NVC to GUZ to P-3 in hand was 118 days for us. Funny thing was. the very day our application was activated as open by GUZ, the P-3 was "sent" the SAME day.

 

By tsap seui

 

 

 

This seems to be the norm these days, my P-3 went out the same day it was entered as there!!

 

I was told this by two different "visa specialists"!!

[tsap seui]

AH, those "visa specialists"...I often think I could call the local septic tank pumper guy (Honey Wagon Man) and get the same information from him as I get from a "visa specialist"...would CERTAINLY get the same CONTENT from what's in his tank, just less beating around the outhouse, so to speak.

 

Fairdinkum, I am.

 

tsap seui

Edited January 1, 2008 by tsap seui (see edit history)

[Randy W]

Some words from USCONGUZ:

 

2. Customs delays. This is another topic that gets a lot of attention and my sense is that many feel we use this as an excuse to hide our inefficiency and sloth. Some have commented that the claim of cases held up by Chinese customs was phoney because the cases are shipped under diplomatic seal and therefore not subject to customs inspection. This is a simple one - IV cases are not shipped via diplomatic pouch. The State Department does not use DHL to ship diplomatic pouch mail.

 

3. Pre-screening/pre-judging/pre-whatever of cases. Officers do not pre-judge cases. Case files scheduled for inteview are retrieved from the file room the afternoon before the interview date. When applicants come in the next morning they go through doc check. when the applicant comes to the window an employee pulls the file from the stack set out the prior afternoon and takes in the docs. once done, the applicant goes to the cashier cage, then goes for fingerprinting. Once all of this is done the case file is distributed to an officer. This is the first time the officer will see a file. He/she will scan the file to get a sense of what it is about, punch in the numbers to get the applicant up to the window and the interview commences. That is the drill.

[Guest Rob & Jin]

AH, those "visa specialists"...I often think I could call the local septic tank pumper guy (Honey Wagon Man) and get the same information from him as I get from a "visa specialist"...would CERTAINLY get the same CONTENT from what's in his tank, just less beating around the outhouse, so to speak.

 

Fairdinkum, I am.

 

tsap seui

 

 

B)

[dnoblett]

Roger

 

I did not call "DOS" until my time line started to be close to what the average was on VJ!. I got better results by comapring my NOA1 date to others here on CFL and VJ as well!

 

In rounded numbers my NOA1 was late........ Got there in April, had to call and then did not get the actual receipt in the mail until June?

 

NOA1 to NOA2 about 3 months or so!

 

NVC was about a month!

 

NVC to GZU was also about 3 months or so!

 

My paper work checked in at GZU, and until my feng got the real P-3 7 days! B)

 

I e-mailed Guangzhou once about a K-2 question, took two e-mails to get a response and about 13 days.

 

I was also told during my last call to DOS, they will know the interview date as soon as GZU inputs it. So I will call in about 30 days or so again!

I did the same thing with our K-1 case, I used VJ's timelines, and used NOA2 as a common point for computing an estimate date for P3, P4, and Interview. The statistics provided by the timelines are quite reliable.

[Guest Rob & Jin]

Currently , at least on VJ for K-1 through Guz its 180 days from NOA-2 to interview, that puts mine at the end of April, I would take that but we will see.

[Shenzhen K-1]

Currently , at least on VJ for K-1 through Guz its 180 days from NOA-2 to interview, that puts mine at the end of April, I would take that but we will see.

 

 

We will see when you get the 3 and me the 4?????

 

Small problem we are trying to fix before we get there!!